BWebb55 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I admit, I am still undecided about the new update. I beleive that yes, rangers did need a good update like this, however, in some ways, it may be a little overpowered. I see it as overpowered in two ways. One, is that the Dragon Effect is too powerful...I mean, 50+?...That should be nerfed, everything else should be left alone. The second, is it is sorta overpowered in a way, that in order to own like this, it is not required to complete any mini-games or quests to obtain it. Don't free Durial. Put this in your sig if you believe in justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 think bout this k: 99str:92or 93 max hit meleers, 99rnage:like 50-70, hits like dh would chances mages:94mage=frozen and damge i think we're still evened out or now evened out :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukearcher Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I admit, I am still undecided about the new update. I beleive that yes, rangers did need a good update like this, however, in some ways, it may be a little overpowered. I see it as overpowered in two ways. One, is that the Dragon Effect is too powerful...I mean, 50+?...That should be nerfed, everything else should be left alone. The second, is it is sorta overpowered in a way, that in order to own like this, it is not required to complete any mini-games or quests to obtain it. yea but that special hits like ones every 100 bolts you use and d bolts are what 8k ea? whos going to pk with them? Ranged 101/99, Str 105/99, Att 105/99, Hp 106/99, Def 100/70, Magic 102/99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbongo Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 This update is good and we needed it. The last rangers update was making addy and mith arrows and some bows f2p. Rangers have always been the weakest in PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcry2 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I hated the simplicity of ranging, so this update is wonderful for me. And Lunar might not be all combat based, but what did rangers get while mages got the super powerful ancients? Ogre bow? I rest my case, all classes have their turn. Rangers didn't NEED anything at that point. You can still OWN someone with any sort of range gear on with rune knives or darts. To even think how many unused weapons rangers have makes me dispise them. Instead of simply making new this new that, how about jagex FIXES something for once. How about making javelins useful, how about making darts purchasable, how about making weapon poison add to more arrows, how about making dragon thrown weapons... How about making the rune thrownaxe useful... There are so many broken things in ranging and now they get new, but even more broken weapons. Its so sad. When was the last time anyone used a javelin, thrownaxe, or longbow in combat? How about fixing those, jagex. I'm tired of having millions of useless quests on my quest list. I'm tired of having updates happen like combination runes that nobody uses. I'm tired of new caves that drop 1 weapon that nobody uses, I'm just TIRED of USELESS updates like these that everyone will forget a month from now. Great, you can do something with emeralds besides make 50 rings of dueling. Great, now duelers have super expensive onyx bolts to drain the economy with. GREAT, I was actually getting my hopes up for this. I'm so tired of half-***ed updates. I don't care if it would take them 2 months to flush out a decent update, they could do something about fixing the broken things in their game while they're developing. Jagex really offended me with this one. *Clap Clap Clap* i agree... utterly It would take 10 minutes to change the stats of a useless weapon. is stab slash and crush really usefull .... at all? why is it almost no 1 on f2p uses stab with rune longs? why are maces pathetic? why are warhammers utterly failed? *** i could fix f2p stab slash and crush system with one single adjustment to medium and sqaure shields... but jagex is retarted. it would take 10 minutes for jagex to fix all these problems... _______________Excuisador 90 att 46 def 99 str @ 100.89cbAr--edhel 84 def 85 hp 93 range 92 magic @93FarCry - retiredAr-edhel 99 att 99 str 99 hp 99 range 97 magic @117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lep Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 This update sucks, but here's more pictures. Topaz. Sapphire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Diddy Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 ^ the second pic is really nice Since im not a member atm i dont know much about this update, but will anyone tell me the normal max hits at like 80 range maybe 20-25? its pretty slow not like you can get 2 hit you can probally get in 4 dds specs while they only do 2 hits, also 50+ with dragon bolts nerf pl0x? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotteh Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 This update sucks for the sole reason that the effects are so incredibly rare. Here's the knock-down effect. Vs Npcs like Nazgul has shown, it only drops rocks and nothing else happens...in pvp they person is only unable to attack for 1.5 seconds or so :roll: That's downright deadly :ohnoes: This update is trash. Ranging was fun because it was so simple. Custimization is for mages. Ranging is simple. Fighting is exciting and unpredictable. now jagex, stop changing it. It should always be: Warriors: Unpredictable and costly, average Rangers: Predictable and cheap, simple Mages: Specialized and expensive, complex With the new updates like barrows gloves, defenders, and lunar magics... Warriors: Simple Rangers: Expensive, Specialized, complex, unpredictable, simple when used correctly Mages: Specialized, costly. It used to be where you targeted the warriors first, and mages were in cheap robes and rangers wore dainty outfits. Thanks to the new update, it is useless to kill a ranger. The only thing you get out of it is dragonhide, and MAYBE a crossbow worth 60k. Oh goodie, i just used a super set and 15 sharks for this. And if they protect the crossbow, you just wasted food for another set of dragonhide, because they don't drop ammo or gloves and usually not cape. Now everyone targets mages and warriors, because at least they drop their ammo and their robs are more expensive. This is such a lame update... And yes, I am complaining because I am not a ranger. I'm sure, if I were a ranger, that I would be dancing. But you know what? Its UNFAIR that mages got such a junk update like lunar magic that is useful for NOTHING but farming. Now we get rangers who drop nothing in the wildy and who just kill everyone at staking. And warriors, go you. Now you can kill mages with a simple dagger. Jagex officially ruined the wildy with this one... it was already ruined, but this sent it over the edge. Edgeville, I should say. How do you figure? How is Range complex? Gem stone bolts > Enchant them. Wow, I've got a head ache now :roll: Expensive? O noes, 8k for a retrievable bolt that can hit 50+ damage. Sucks eh? Lunar isn't junk... Not VERY single spell of this game has to be able to kill people in 3-hits and freeze them for 2 hours. You obviously haven't used it... Besides, you have a choice who you fight. If some ranger is risking jack all then run... How has it ruined the Wilderness too? The effects happen once evry 30 shots, what are the chances that you will get two in a row on someone? Practically nil. :roll: I guess we should just go back to RSC seen as RS in ruined thanks to better items? ^^ Support it or get confused by pixel-mess :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussy4321 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I made a thread like this on a different forum, i'll post it (only jade, opal, emerald and pearl) It's in my Blood and Nature to post pictures of the new Spells/Weapons/Stuff.. So here's the bolts i have the ability to show (Saphire and Red Topaz have no animation just effect) Jade - Supposidly "Knocks out/over" an enemy, Works like entangle Opal (personal Favourite) - Sometimes make a bolt of lightnin hitting from 15-22 at 74 range. Pearl - Bolt of water , quite similar to opal but doesn't affect people holding water staffs. Emerald - it says "Super Poison" but it only hits 3, this speacil effect happens every one to two shots and is very accurate. More to come - I have Onyx tips if anyone could make them into bolts thank you ~Aussy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin85 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 u seriously gonna spend onyx on bolts?!?! :ohnoes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuBai Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 u seriously gonna spend onyx on bolts?!?! :ohnoes: 1.5k tokul each from the shop in thazar pits. U dont have to cut the whole onyx gem :) thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelos_1826 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I think this update is ok. The effects of all the new bolts are neat, but since I'm not a ranger, this one wasn't really for me. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRkMper0r Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 this noob just kept fighting me because he liked the spec soo much lol. RSN: DRkMper0r, AKA: LORD DARK-EMPEROR~proud owner of a fire cape (94 combat) on 26th of july 2006~ 3rd time was the charm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin85 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 u seriously gonna spend onyx on bolts?!?! :ohnoes: 1.5k tokul each from the shop in thazar pits. U dont have to cut the whole onyx gem :) thank god. oh lol , i thoughd u had to spend ur onyx on them :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lep Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 While training at Black Demons, I've managed to hit 23 with Bronze Opals. I've also managed to hit 2 effect specs in a row, never 3 yet though. Only had 2 in a row 3 times so far. (On Accurate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitedite Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 I think it's hilarious that half the people are moaning 'range is too overpowered now' and half are moaning 'the spec doesnt hit enough its useless'. In a little hilltop village they gambled for my clothesI bargained for salvation and they gave me a lethal doseI offered up my innocence, I got repaid with scorn"Come in'', she said, "I'll give you shelter from the storm" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulthresher Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 well crossbows are slow, specs dont hit that often. update is good tho. so whats there to complain about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lep Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 well crossbows are slow, specs dont hit that often. update is good tho. so whats there to complain about? You answered your own question in the first sentence. =D> : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravenstormn Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 as someone who has been on top of the ranging world for a long time now. This update to me is kinda useless. The bows hit way too slow , the effect is way to random. Not a very good training method due to how slow it is. Not very good for pking cause of how slow it is and the randomness of the specials. In the time it takes to get off 4 shots you have been hit by a full spec bar from a dds , hit 3 times by a whip , or frozen. Yes you get to hold a shield with it YAY. Started January 2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppunkrocker Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 It's to complicated for me, i'll stick to my msb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowager286 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 as someone who has been on top of the ranging world for a long time now. This update to me is kinda useless. The bows hit way too slow , the effect is way to random. Not a very good training method due to how slow it is. Not very good for pking cause of how slow it is and the randomness of the specials. In the time it takes to get off 4 shots you have been hit by a full spec bar from a dds , hit 3 times by a whip , or frozen. Yes you get to hold a shield with it YAY. you underplay that sheild weilding abilty you could weild a crystal sheild or rune maybe and those specs would halve in effectivness that whip would be struggleing to get passed your awesome def(not really but you would get hit alot less)awesome in stakes because then you can weild d sheilds which only take 2 off range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Firzen0 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 i think this update is fun, but useless. and for all you people thinking range is overpowered now, its not because the crystal bow still rules all. if you want range to be overpowered just wait till the new range boosting prayer comes out! check out my achievments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarted7 Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 i didnt really like this update cuz it made ranging so much more complex. Maging was supposed to have the complexity and ranging was supposed to be simple. When i saw a crossbow update in the behind the scenes july, i thought it would just be an alternative not something that could eliminate classic bow ranging. I like the new crossbows however, but i fear the bolts are too complex. Click here to see my goals and achievements thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilmot Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Grr I had a pic of onyx but comp seems to have eaten it. Anyway max I got with them was 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddybob Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Opal Bolts, the lightning bolt, looks awesome :thumbsup: , going to try the dragon one next...just need some drag stones lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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