chenw Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I can see how that the idea that maybe haemalchemy is using the daelyt ore to make blood. I am partial also to that idea about silver bolts. The other thing is that obviously it would be an altar in the space not a ruins to an altar, otherwise people would be making insane amounts of money (almost as much as 91 rc) from it. nice idea about the silver bolts, i really wanna see some of my 13k silver bolts actually put to good use. About the altar in space or something, i dont think it actuallt matter where the altar is positioned, because most likely people will get in through the abyss anyway, because it is most likely 10 minute stroll to the altar. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollerz Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I just finished the quest and in the last pic you show I believe that will be the blood altar. As soon as I seen it tonight my first thought was * blood altar*. Actually what a good spot to put the altar, we have flying vampires biting us in the necks, up and down ladders, jumping over boards, and climbing shelves. Geesh could it get any more difficult then that. I really enjoyed the quest was challenging and fun. :) Wow, this has made me think! (quite rare out of school)...If I get this quest done NOW, get the next one done as it comes out...and my runecrafting will change from Natures > Bloods! :D Blood selling en masse ftw. 450each, cheap as chips! Click my signature for my blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EYOWAREYA Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Mensilater 04-Sep-2006 20:25:44 Last edited on 05-Sep-2006 17:33:15 by Mensilater As far as I can tell, there is no thread on this. If you delete the space in his name, it becomes, "I Vanstrom!" Could Myreque Priest Ivan Strom really be Vanstrom Klause, notorius vampire? The most likely theory is that Vannstrom Klause had a son. We know that Ivan's parents were taken away to Sanguinesti and killed, but could his father have been turned into a Vampyre? If Ivan knows of his interesting ancestry, he could be working as a spy to infiltrate the Myreque! SPOILER FROM NEW QUEST This could also explain how the Werewolves got across the salve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecool280 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Guy above, if that happened, there would HAVE to be an "Ivan/Luke, I am your father" moment! lol :lol: Haemalchemey, blood alchemy, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=RNWE%2CRNWE%3A2006-29%2CRNWE%3Aen&q=blood+alchemy Hmm... How about when a Haemalchemey spell is cast, the users blood molecules fuse with the Dealyt molecules creating a metal that can be shaped by anyone who knows Blood Magic (eg vampires?) to anything they want, any shape but still retaining the relative hardness of a metal and a metals strength? That way you could make anything, the only limit on what could be made with Bleaylt (a cross between blood and Dealyt ores)would be the casters power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonicspeed Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hemoglobin. Is a component of blood, although now that I think of it, it can also be spelled Haemoglobin. Although the Haem part is just a term for a certain prosthetic group that contains iron, so.... I hope the "..." means you know what makes blood red :D Basically yes, "haem" is the pigment that makes blood red, and it's part of haemoglobin (hemoglobin). Hemoglobin is the part in blood that oxygen binds to. I kinda thought of this when I saw the name of the book. The only reason I know all this is because my dad and I were talking about how if you inhaled too much carbon monoxide, how you'd get red instead of blue. I can see how that the idea that maybe haemalchemy is using the daelyt ore to make blood. I am partial also to that idea about silver bolts. The other thing is that obviously it would be an altar in the space not a ruins to an altar, otherwise people would be making insane amounts of money (almost as much as 91 rc) from it. Based on current hints, the blood alter will be accessed by ruins. Abyssal rifts lead to the inner alters of ruins, and there is already an abyssal rift to the blood alter. Also, in the knowledge base, there is already a picture of a Blood Talisman. Now, there's nothing wrong with making as much money as 91 RC. Does Jagex care about how much runecrafters can make? No. The most important thing is to keep the amount of blood runes somewhat controlled so that Magic can't gain a huge training advantage. By making the ruins far away and requiring multiple hard quests to use them, the use of runners is almost useless, like the Death Ruins are now for example. Allowing the few players that have a high enough RC to craft the blood runes now without runners won't cause too much of a significant change, besides the ability for players who have worked very hard and long to make their own blood runes, the entire point of runecrafting. Even still, Natures will always remain the dominant selling rune, because of their gigantic demand and profit when making doubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Rdam Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 It's possible there will be a next quest, well it's obvious. And the blood altar placed there would be a good choise, because the whole quest is about vampires and getting bitten and stuff. And probably, next quest, we can make weapons/armour from those ores. To protect the Myreque or somthing, makes sense eh? :mrgreen: Credits to Skully Sc for the signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamedragon Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 1. I think that this Haemachemy research was actually finding ways to make a process more EFFICENT, i believe the vyres were converted using such science but the scientists discovered how to reverse the process (daeyalt being the main ingredient of such a process) for some proof read the message. 2. Drakan We will NOT defeat drakan, we may build up a good resistance force but due to the extreme sensitivity of such a case we will not win, YES i do think there will be a blood altar there, i think we may sneak in and acess the altar. (from where lord drakan could summon reinforcments) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jard_Y_Dooku Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 Perhaps the inside of the blood altar will be guarded by Vyrewatch, as the death altar is by ghosts. And wearing Vyrewatch clothes from the shop in Meiyerditch could disguise you so they wouldn't try to tithe you. Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 My theories: Ivan Strom is not who he seems he is, he seems to have too much ties to Vanstrom. Also why did creatures get past the Salve the second he arrives at Paterdomus? Most of this about this fellow I discuss here. Daeyalt is an ore that cannot yet be smelted. Note that you had to bring weapons to the Myreque in the first part, this may be the answer to some weapons that can kill the Vampyres? Atleast it looks like the Vyre weapons are made of that ore. But it is unlikely. The castle was not built by the Vyres, nor by Drakan. It cannot be coincidence that the castle was built right on top of that mine. And if Daeyalt really IS used as a Vyre-slaying weapon, then Drakan and his Vyre minions would never have been able to take that castle. The Haunted mine was also an excellent sources for ores for when Burgh de Rott still flourished. Morytania is now in decay, not an anvil in sight to make weapons for any resistance. Perhaps it was haunted to cut off access to the Salve Amulet? And Daeyalt -> Daey (die) alt (old)? Drakan used to live in what is currently Fenkenstrains castle (old fenky pays tithe to be allowed to keep it, he even attempted to make a creature to pay the tithe FOR him). If you see what is currently Drakans residence, I wouldnt move back either. The key is that they cannot kill us all, YET, because they need us for our blood. The quests will probably be safe like Darkness of Hallowvale was, until such a time that you will probably find out that they have finished researching and started to work with Haemalching. Then the humans will be disposable, save a few slaves. The suggested "poisoning of Morytania" doesnt seem to be more then mere sewage disposal. Morytania poisons itself, by absorbing the living into the undead armies of Ghasts, Shades and Vyres. So will we need to make Daeyalt weaponry? Arm more of the Myreque? Will we need a Salve Amulet, Rod of Ivandis, AND a Guthix' Balance potion AND a Daeyalt weapon (or not?) to be able to kill a Vyrewatch? What about Drakan himself? Will things start to look more grim first, possibly an invasion into Misthalin first, before King Roald finally decides to send more troops in? Will the God War awaken Guthix and kill us all? :P feel free to move this lot all to post one, just remember who to credit ;) [editted for spelling] Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I would not be surprised if there was a climactic battle where you fight your way through several bosses, kill Vanstrom, and then confront Drakan. However, another Majarat shows up before the battle (maybe after a few hits, when it is obvious that even with new weapons to kill the stronger vampires, you cannot defeat Drakan). The Mahjarat tells Drakan that lord Zamorak needs him urgently in the North, and the two teleport away using Ancient Magicks, leaving you there nursing your wounds. Personally, I believe that the Mahjarat followers of Zaros and Zamorak are regrouping in the North to battle eachother. Zaros' power seems to be returning to the world, as evidenced by his possession of Tolna. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdean Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 maybe the blood altar will be akin to the astral altar - in that you simply walk to it, no tallys, as i imagine blood is rather essential over there - and remember how we used rune essence to purify the salve? i wonder if rune essencse absorbs the vampyre's power from the altar.. also, there are subtle hints through a couple of quests, the plague city series and eath to the dorgesshun, that saradomin isn't as good and holy as we might beleive, as guthix is the only god that one could invisage as a benevolent god.. and also, what if we could become vampyres? like monkey madenss, only in certain areas, but to navigate tghe city faster and get righjt into that lovely castle (dragonkin castle pl0x?) Back by popular demand!And I guess I just wanted to tell you, as the light starts to fade, that you aree the reason, that I am not afraid, and I guess I just wanted to mention, as the heavens will fall, that we will be together soon if we will be anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jard_Y_Dooku Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 Ts Stormrage, I saw your thread and you have some very good points there. I enjoyed reading it. maybe the blood altar will be akin to the astral altar - in that you simply walk to it, no tallys, as i imagine blood is rather essential over there - and remember how we used rune essence to purify the salve? i wonder if rune essencse absorbs the vampyre's power from the altar.. also, there are subtle hints through a couple of quests, the plague city series and eath to the dorgesshun, that saradomin isn't as good and holy as we might beleive, as guthix is the only god that one could invisage as a benevolent god.. and also, what if we could become vampyres? like monkey madenss, only in certain areas, but to navigate tghe city faster and get righjt into that lovely castle (dragonkin castle pl0x?) I highly doubt that, since blood was one of the original runes, whereas astral was not. Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 anyone noticed thwere i wrote: Daey-alt = Die-old Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jard_Y_Dooku Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Yes, but I didn't understand that... mind explaining? Never trust anyone. You are always alone, and betrayal is inevitable.Nothing is safe from the jaws of the decompiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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