Is it nessesary to be mean?

[Soulthresher]

sometimes its neccisarry to be mean, but sometimes its kinda fun to start a flame war

 

 

 

i dont htink all the people start it cause they feel high and mighty :roll: sometimes ppl need to be flammed

 

 

 

a little criticism(sp?) can help ppl

[Poopingman]

But Ghostranger, even in your post there, you make a point to ridicule poopman because of what? His post that was on topic and self centered? Whatever, why does it matter to you if he thinks hes getting picked on? What is the point of picking on him MORE? Was there any reason for that? Do you feel better now that you have done that? If so great, I dont care. I just want to know why it has to be done.

 

 

 

I agree with you completly, there is SOME use, but simply just attacking people for no reason; for example you ridiculing poopman, seems pointless and silly. Why must it be done? I'm my eyes, it doesnt have to be done. If someone makes a completly pointless post, that is on topic let it slide. Simple as that. I apprecate your input and well example, imnot trying to single you out, it just was, I guess a good example.

 

 

 

(I double posted and jsut edited this post instead of posting again.)

 

 

 

Actually, I do feel better. To answer your question about why: because I don't like him and I don't like what he says or how he acts and I think he should quit acting that way. I'm tired of it and several people have made posts about that exact same type of behavior of "poor me" that he does all the time. When I get tired of ridiculous behavior that keeps recurring, I smart off.

 

 

 

Now here's my question for you: do you consider it mean because of the point in my post, or how I said it? Is merely attacking someone's position mean or was it the snide way I said it that was mean?

 

 

 

Nik, I appreciate you defending me, I really do. Thing is, Ghostranger and I have previous feuds that he hasn't gotten over. I'm unsure of this "poor me" analogy hes trying to draw, but the post you cited from the Import/Tuner thread is as good an example as ANY of unwarranted flaming.

 

 

 

Ghost, I suggest you read that thread in its entirety, any logical person would conclude that I didn't say or do anything to egg the aggressive poster on. So Ghost, in conclusion (lol) I believe you chose the wrong incident to use as an example against me as a person.

[Guest GhostRanger]

Nik, I appreciate you defending me, I really do. Thing is, Ghostranger and I have previous feuds that he hasn't gotten over. I'm unsure of this "poor me" analogy hes trying to draw, but the post you cited from the Import/Tuner thread is as good an example as ANY of unwarranted flaming.

 

 

 

Ghost, I suggest you read that thread in its entirety, any logical person would conclude that I didn't say or do anything to egg the aggressive poster on. So Ghost, in conclusion (lol) I believe you chose the wrong incident to use as an example against me as a person.

 

 

 

Sorry. My example was you crying about getting attacked - not the attack specifically. So I think it was a good example. In fact, I think it was a great example. I think it was the best example anyone has ever given on this board in any example-giving post. I should get the Nobel Peace Prize for giving such an awesome example. Users of tip.it: feel free to praise me and all my glory for giving such a good example.

[Poopingman]

Nik, I appreciate you defending me, I really do. Thing is, Ghostranger and I have previous feuds that he hasn't gotten over. I'm unsure of this "poor me" analogy hes trying to draw, but the post you cited from the Import/Tuner thread is as good an example as ANY of unwarranted flaming.

 

 

 

Ghost, I suggest you read that thread in its entirety, any logical person would conclude that I didn't say or do anything to egg the aggressive poster on. So Ghost, in conclusion (lol) I believe you chose the wrong incident to use as an example against me as a person.

 

 

 

Sorry. My example was you crying about getting attacked - not the attack specifically. So I think it was a good example. In fact, I think it was a great example. I think it was the best example anyone has ever given on this board in any example-giving post. I should get the Nobel Peace Prize for giving such an awesome example. Users of tip.it: feel free to praise me and all my glory for giving such a good example.

 

 

 

Yes! 'Tis a great example that I will cry when unreasonably attacked. Wouldn't anybody in their right mind do the same? Perhaps you come from a world where noone stands up for themselves? /Confused

[MyPurpleCrayon]

'Tis a great example that I will cry when unreasonably attacked. Wouldn't anybody in their right mind do the same? Perhaps you come from a world where noone stands up for themselves? /Confused

 

 

 

Tis? What? Are you serious? Who says that?

 

 

 

You cry all the time, not only when people attack you for no reason. How about you quit crying all together, and then the problem will be solved.

 

 

 

And honestly, do you still expect people to take you seriously with the name 'Poopingman'?

[Poopingman]

'Tis a great example that I will cry when unreasonably attacked. Wouldn't anybody in their right mind do the same? Perhaps you come from a world where noone stands up for themselves? /Confused

 

 

 

Tis? What? Are you serious? Who says that?

 

 

 

You cry all the time, not only when people attack you for no reason. How about you quit crying all together, and then the problem will be solved.

 

 

 

And honestly, do you still expect people to take you seriously with the name 'Poopingman'?

 

 

 

Please, what you call crying is me standing up against flamers, I feel these incidents can help people learn alot. This is the best topic in which to bring this to light.

 

 

 

The reason I'm hated so much is because I'm not afraid to settle with the less "popular" opinion in many cases. As long as I have hope in "Off Topic" becoming a normal, reasonable board again, I will continue what I've been doing for so long.

 

 

 

Either way, I haven't been in any arguments for months, its not like this was a big deal up until now, you know? and yeah...the name :uhh:

[Evadek]

i quite enjoy laughing at people in wheelchairs.

 

 

 

But they don't know, so it isn't that mean

[MyPurpleCrayon]

The reason I'm hated so much is because I'm not afraid to settle with the less "popular" opinion in many cases. As long as I have hope in "Off Topic" becoming a normal, reasonable board again, I will continue what I've been doing for so long.

 

 

 

See, that's the problem. You think you know what the reason is, but you don't, and you won't listen to anyone when we try to explain it to you.

[Poopingman]

The reason I'm hated so much is because I'm not afraid to settle with the less "popular" opinion in many cases. As long as I have hope in "Off Topic" becoming a normal, reasonable board again, I will continue what I've been doing for so long.

 

 

 

See, that's the problem. You think you know what the reason is, but you don't, and you won't listen to anyone when we try to explain it to you.

 

 

 

Everyone thinks don't they? Whatever I think on a topic is my opinion. I'm not entitled to that? Then you guys lay out your points, and I lay out mine, I was never accused of "not listening" to people....This is getting a bit deep, if you are so inclined to continue, please PM me.

 

 

 

Ha, now that I think of it, you're the only person on these boards that knows I'm not a 30 year old goon sitting in my mothers basement flinging poop against a wall! :lol:

[nik]

 

Now here's my question for you: do you consider it mean because of the point in my post, or how I said it? Is merely attacking someone's position mean or was it the snide way I said it that was mean?

 

 

 

I personally love a little debate, I think attacking, or questioning one's opinion because yours differs from it is a great idea, it causes disagreement, which sparks debate, and its wonderful and fun for all parties (unless they are a very bad sport).

 

 

 

I think the unessesary snide way that you attacked him personally, was uncalled for. Also, you attacked him personally on basis of other actions that are outside of the post, meaning you got off topic. I do admit though you did stay on topic through your post, but the first few sentances attacking poopingman where completly irelivent and unessesary.

 

 

 

Sparking debate by questioning a party: Good

 

Flaming someone for past grudges: Bad

 

 

 

In my opinion at least.

 

 

 

Now im glad you got a thrill out of putting down poopman, but for the sake of the topic creator (me), and the other posters, will you keep your personal battles off our topics? As you see with this topic, you created a ping pong of attack/counter-attack with poopingman, and his attackers, it totally got off topic, and spamed the thread. In a former post, someone said that spam is a bigger concern than flaming, flaming creates unrealted spam, therefore it is connected, and a concern.

 

 

 

I dont get the point of this, why must we do it? I guess it is human nature, but cant we try to be above that?

 

 

 

If the spam/flame war between poopingman and others continues can a mod please lock the thread and let it die? Now I thank you personally GhostRanger for creating a pointless flame-athon on this thread, and helping it get completly off topic. You have shown your true self to someone who just has a concern, Bravo.

[apinagez]

Flaming is good and is necessary, when used smartly.

 

I would even flame your thread, but I'm going to bed right now.

[nik]

Flaming is good and is necessary, when used smartly.

 

I would even flame your thread, but I'm going to bed right now.

 

 

 

Apinagez, thats just like you isnt it? :roll: :roll: \

[apinagez]

Don't you roll your friggen' eyes at me, mister! =;

[logic-is-overrated]

I dont get the point of this, why must we do it? I guess it is human nature, but cant we try to be above that?

You'll notice how all of the flaming/spamming in this thread was completely unfunny, not even mildly entertaining, and in no way came close to being thought provoking. The problem we have is not the fact that people do flame, it's the fact that they don't do it right.

[Guest GhostRanger]

Also, you attacked him personally on basis of other actions that are outside of the post, meaning you got off topic.

 

 

 

This is a community. We are all held accountable throughout every post we make.

 

 

 

I do admit though you did stay on topic through your post, but the first few sentances attacking poopingman where completly irelivent and unessesary.

 

 

 

I'm glad that you admit that but we disagree about the first sentences being irrelevant. I think it was very relevant to your post. My obvious point was that you want to know if we should be mean, and I think it's irritating when people like Poopingman make a big deal about people "flaming" them. If that isn't on topic, what is?

 

 

 

Now im glad you got a thrill out of putting down poopman, but for the sake of the topic creator (me), and the other posters, will you keep your personal battles off our topics?

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

As you see with this topic, you created a ping pong of attack/counter-attack with poopingman, and his attackers, it totally got off topic, and spamed the thread. In a former post, someone said that spam is a bigger concern than flaming, flaming creates unrealted spam, therefore it is connected, and a concern.

 

 

 

I don't think it was off topic. I believe that a discussion about whether or not someone takes flaming too seriously and tries to pity himself too much is very on topic in a post where we are discussing the validity of being mean. If you haven't figured it out yet through my many sarcastic comments let me spell it out for you: I disagree with your point that there is too much flaming on this board. That was your initial point. I demonstrated my disagreement by giving the example of someone like Poopingman, who thinks everyone is out to get him, and can't take a flame. I think that the problem with your initial point is that you think there is too much flaming. I disagree and did a fantastic job at demonstrating my disagreement. In fact, I think you'll find I always do that. I always do a good job at making my point. This thread was no exception.

 

 

 

I dont get the point of this, why must we do it? I guess it is human nature, but cant we try to be above that?

 

 

 

Here's why: (Stupid) people make posts and comments that need to be corrected. Then they get annoyed that they were corrected and act like fools. When it's pointed out that they're acting like fools, they explode. Once they explode, the only thing that gets them to shut up is making them feel dumb until they quit posting. It works. Everytime. If it didn't work, people like apinagez and myself would have quit a long time ago.

 

 

 

If the spam/flame war between poopingman and others continues can a mod please lock the thread and let it die? Now I thank you personally GhostRanger for creating a pointless flame-athon on this thread, and helping it get completly off topic. You have shown your true self to someone who just has a concern, Bravo.

 

 

 

Once again, since you seem to be rather slow at picking up hints, I'll remind you that I demonstrated my point perfectly. People like you and poopingman take light flaming too seriously.

[apinagez]

The problem we have is not the fact that people do flame, it's the fact that they don't do it right.

 

 

 

Indeed. Good flaming is priceless, and flaming thoughtfully is an art.

[Poopingman]

The problem we have is not the fact that people do flame, it's the fact that they don't do it right.

 

 

 

Indeed. Good flaming is priceless, and flaming thoughtfully is an art.

 

 

 

I feel that this mentality may very well be the root of the whole issue. I don't mean to single you out, since dozens (obviously) share your mindset.

 

 

 

However, it often comes off as being snide, snoody, stuck-up, and something in the vein of "I'm too good to waste my time with you". Some people take it, and some people can't stand it. I guess I'm one of them that doesn't.

[Guest GhostRanger]

However, it often comes off as being snide, snoody, stuck-up, and something in the vein of "I'm too good to waste my time with you".

 

 

 

Well at least we're getting our point across!

[Guest XplsvBam]

Is it necessary to point this out? I could point out how much of a waste of time this is but that isn't necessary either. I'm pretty sure people realize that they are here just to try to find something interesting while blowing time.

 

 

 

But to answer your question its never necassary to be mean. In real life or online. It may be funny or interesting to talk about someone or be mean to someone but totally unneccassary and only people that can't strike up interesting conversation without being mean do it to look like they have a life.

 

 

 

But being direct with someone is different and shouldn't be seen as being mean, but sadly it is.

[mad4u689]

I always start out intending to be nice. Sometimes it just doesn't quite work out as planned though :oops: Heat of the moment and all :oops: Ah well, I'm working on it :D

[fgfuyfyuiuy0]

Sometimes it is necessary to be mean. If someone posts something that is uncalled for and somehow hurts the feeling of others, than it is needed to fight fire with fire. Doesn't mean we should do it, but anger gets the best of some of us, or some of us are always mean. If someone gets flammed by 5+ people, than that means something was said, since it affected a lot more than one person. If the whole community is affected, and flames, than something isn't right. It depends on how many people are affected by it. If it's just one person, and the post isn't directed anyway what-so-ever towards them, than that person must be mean generally. We were all made different, and some of us just tend to be mean for no apparant reason. Some of us who are never mean, unless a post was put out to affect a lot of people, and may affect people who aren't mean in everyday life, will probably not understand why a few of us are like this. The only way you can get a direct answer for why just one person flammed you, or is trying to hurt you emotionally, is by talking to them, because most of us can't answer for the few select people who are members of this forum, who just are plain mean. It can be anything that just makes them mean. Abusive parent's, bullied, sibling rivalry, been molested, et cetera. The only way you can find out, is by asking the source of the problem. People can only give you an idea, the source can give you the answer.

[How2PK]

Something else that's very annoying is that people are 'offended' so quikly. I mean, you can't say anything, or someone will THINK! it is directed at them. All this paranoia.

 

 

 

Oh, and even 'good flaming' gets old soon on this forum. Perhaps it's even the worst type. I get so tired of these people who think they are 'good flamers'. Always posting in the same "I am better than you attitude" etc. And then they think they are smat because they have an 'intelligent' flame, and then you even get these people walking away with them and adoring them saying that 'good flaming' is an ART! Come on![/rant] Don't get me wrong, I don't mind some flaming every now and then, but there are users who just have the same attitude in every reply they make. Even when there isn't even a reason to 'flame' yet.

[Nadril]

Something else that's very annoying is that people are 'offended' so quikly. I mean, you can't say anything, or someone will THINK! it is directed at them. All this paranoia.

 

 

 

Why do you always think I am paranoid? Gawd :x :( .

 

 

 

 

 

I find it necisary sometimes to be a bit mean if you need to get your point off to someone... a bit hard headed.

[Mercifull]

Some people deserve it...

[apinagez]

Oh, and even 'good flaming' gets old soon on this forum. Perhaps it's even the worst type. I get so tired of these people who think they are 'good flamers'. Always posting in the same "I am better than you attitude" etc. And then they think they are smat because they have an 'intelligent' flame, and then you even get these people walking away with them and adoring them saying that 'good flaming' is an ART!

 

 

 

That's not good flaming, Daan. I belive there are only 2 or 3 good flamers in this forum, and I'm not one of them, if that's what you understood I meant.

 

Good flaming takes great amounts of intelligence, sense of irony and perspicacity.