Battle in MordGNAR.

[Godslayer]

cool, the dragon looks weird tho, meh, not that you care....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really don't, wierd is a quality that is fine by me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Done.

[Nazgul740]

 

cool, the dragon looks weird tho, meh, not that you care....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really don't, wierd is a quality that is fine by me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Done.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think you're going to go very far with that attitude... someday you're gonna run up against somone who says "Make me artwork this way... I don't give a waffle about your style this is how it needs to be done."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At that point you are either going to turn down the job and preserve your individual style... or you are going to have to start working towards what some people might prefer in the artwork you are making for them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your colors and shadeing are awsome and you obviously have a ton of skill in pixeling, I guess with that much talent you just don't care what others think of your art... :?

[WeeBoab]

hes only 12 or somethin, give the guy a break. anyway, its very nice. love the sprites, the dragon is teh sex, but it doesnt seem to be doing anything? just seems to be randomly sitting there. maybe make 1 of the sprites burst out in flames or get eaten? i dno whatevers good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw, whoever said the dragons weird, how many perfectly realistic sega games and the like have you seen?

[eckered]

dead guy laying in fromt of the dragoon 8-) and where the crap is frodo?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and holy crap, your 12?

[Darrel104]

I like those black lines, gives it a abstract feel.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cool, the dragon looks weird tho, meh, not that you care....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really don't, wierd is a quality that is fine by me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Done.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think you're going to go very far with that attitude... someday you're gonna run up against somone who says "Make me artwork this way... I don't give a waffle about your style this is how it needs to be done."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At that point you are either going to turn down the job and preserve your individual style... or you are going to have to start working towards what some people might prefer in the artwork you are making for them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your colors and shadeing are awsome and you obviously have a ton of skill in pixeling, I guess with that much talent you just don't care what others think of your art... :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think he is doing pixels with keeping in mind the "2d game style".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hes only 12 or somethin, give the guy a break. anyway, its very nice. love the sprites, the dragon is teh sex, but it doesnt seem to be doing anything? just seems to be randomly sitting there. maybe make 1 of the sprites burst out in flames or get eaten? i dno whatevers good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw, whoever said the dragons weird, how many perfectly realistic sega games and the like have you seen?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since i last checked age isnt a insult, some people will act like a 12 years old for their whole life. Anyway for 12 he does some good artwork. I dont consider it mature anyway to insult people just because they wont give you what you want.

[Godslayer]

Nazgul: Attitude? Wierd is so vague that I had no choice but to basically ignore that. What was I supposed to say? 'Oh, wierd! I know exactly what you mean, thanks for being so descriptive!.'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your arguement is flawed in that, because I presume your talking about an employer, the only person who could command me into taking on other styles and would be listened to, pjb has no control over me. I dont need to impress him. I'm not a singular person, I dont act the same way towards everyone. If pjb was important to me keeping a job, then yeah, I would care more about what he said, but even then, saying 'it looks wierd' is by no means constructive critiscism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line: Pjb made a vague comment that can not count as c/c by virtue of sheer unspecificness. He said I don't care, and I agreed. As far as I'm concerned he means it doesn't look like a typical dragon, and that doesn't bother me at all. He has no influence over my income or wether I have a job, so I treat his comment as it deserved to be treated. I would not be ungrateful to a good spot of C/C, and I am not grateful to a bad one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not twelve by the way, I'm fourteen.

[My_Eggs]

Nazgul: Attitude? Wierd is so vague that I had no choice but to basically ignore that. What was I supposed to say? 'Oh, wierd! I know exactly what you mean, thanks for being so descriptive!.'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your arguement is flawed in that, because I presume your talking about an employer, the only person who could command me into taking on other styles and would be listened to, pjb has no control over me. I dont need to impress him. I'm not a singular person, I dont act the same way towards everyone. If pjb was important to me keeping a job, then yeah, I would care more about what he said, but even then, saying 'it looks wierd' is by no means constructive critiscism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line: Pjb made a vague comment that can not count as c/c by virtue of sheer unspecificness. He said I don't care, and I agreed. As far as I'm concerned he means it doesn't look like a typical dragon, and that doesn't bother me at all. He has no influence over my income or wether I have a job, so I treat his comment as it deserved to be treated. I would not be ungrateful to a good spot of C/C, and I am not grateful to a bad one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not twelve by the way, I'm fourteen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm thirteen, and I can take c/c much better than you on my pixels, whenever someone suggests something to you, right away you get defensive and just ignore it most of the time :notalk:

[pjb21]

admitidly, no, i wasnt very descriptive, but thats cos i knew gs woulndnt care much about what i said, due to his nature and past knolage. so yeah i wasnt descriptive. however gs could have reacted better, as oposed to defensive he could have aked why, but yes, he doesnt care, hes arrogant, and likes what he does and doesnt want to change it becasue of me, a person hes never met and doesnt care about. to him in just text.

[Godslayer]

My_Eggs, tif is not a valid place to ascess 'how I take cc', for the simple fact that 99% of 'c/c' is, ah, sub par.

[Nazgul740]

Nazgul: Attitude? Wierd is so vague that I had no choice but to basically ignore that. What was I supposed to say? 'Oh, wierd! I know exactly what you mean, thanks for being so descriptive!.'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your arguement is flawed in that, because I presume your talking about an employer, the only person who could command me into taking on other styles and would be listened to, pjb has no control over me. I dont need to impress him. I'm not a singular person, I dont act the same way towards everyone. If pjb was important to me keeping a job, then yeah, I would care more about what he said, but even then, saying 'it looks wierd' is by no means constructive critiscism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line: Pjb made a vague comment that can not count as c/c by virtue of sheer unspecificness. He said I don't care, and I agreed. As far as I'm concerned he means it doesn't look like a typical dragon, and that doesn't bother me at all. He has no influence over my income or wether I have a job, so I treat his comment as it deserved to be treated. I would not be ungrateful to a good spot of C/C, and I am not grateful to a bad one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not twelve by the way, I'm fourteen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True, weird isn't the most descriptive word ever, but if he had gone and said something like "I think that the dragon looks a odd around the head, it seems too squished and square to aline well with the large wings"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would you have gone and changed it? No, I don't think so. Just like how someone posted a picture of lava above and how it normally looks and you ignored that... You can't please everyone, and thats perfectly understandable... but from what I have seen, you have a habit of looking at suggestions-C\C and ignoring it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What type of C\C do you want? Just C\C on the pixelation and not on opinions on how people think it could be improved?

[Godslayer]

Perhaps this chronic ignoring of peoples suggestions stem from the fact that I don't really see this as art... Its difficult to equate, but I'm in no hurry to make this perfect like I would if I were to make say, a portrait of a family member.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Theres also the fact that ultimately, its just what the person who wants the sig thinks that is important to the outcome of these pieces. I'll refrain from posting these kind of works again to save future headaches, ok everyone?

[terley]

remember this is not specialised as pixel art forum, people will say vague comments like 'it looks weird.. -_- ..', people will say 'omgz its perfect!' and you will get people saying exactly what you want to hear. Just, this is a forum, people have the right to say what they want and its up to you what you make of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've refrained from posting any work here for a while because I personally don't think I'd get the critisism I want (and lately ive been doing stuff that's not ready to show atall), I stay to be of use for others and to be apart of the community that I know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong though, imput from this place can be great at times but there are few who are really in a position to give proffesional advice, Im at the age were im started to produce work for people, I am still learning so I need advice from those who know the subject well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't blame Godslayer for shunning your opinion if it leaves him at a dead-end thinking.. 'well I thought it looked fine, what could he possibly mean?' as at the end of the day it's personal opinion, he could change it to be perfect for you and then, someone else could have something else to say about it.. You can never get 'perfection'.. You know Godslayer has an attitude :lol: , i've learnt to see past that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But yeah, godslayer, lighten up. :shame: don't run off that's pathetic.. you've been getting great responses, don't hide whenever someone says something 'vague'..

[Godslayer]

Its not running so much as understanding that I dont need to chronicle everything I do here. Much the same as you Terly.

[Garrgoyle]

Blargh. Shutup everyone. Those sprites look freaking awesome. Love the rocks in the top right too. Only crit really would be that the red parts of the dragons wing seem to have rather random highlights, I think it would look much better if it was shaded in the same way as the green parts. Also I think the center part of its neck could be lighter, as right now the head and neck too a bit 2D.

[Nazgul740]

Perhaps this chronic ignoring of peoples suggestions stem from the fact that I don't really see this as art... Its difficult to equate, but I'm in no hurry to make this perfect like I would if I were to make say, a portrait of a family member.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Theres also the fact that ultimately, its just what the person who wants the sig thinks that is important to the outcome of these pieces. I'll refrain from posting these kind of works again to save future headaches, ok everyone?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For the first point- Sure I can understand that. If you see these as just fun pieces that you like to do then by all means go ahead and do them all you want.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For the second- Jeesh don't leave again. I think 90% of the people here enjoy your work and like to have you around giving C\C.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For myself, ugg... its difficult for me to give you what you want... Do you want C\C on everything? Are you going to use it if I spend 30 minutes typeing everything I see? Should I just sit back and watch your work since I know that your piece will come out looking the same if I C\C'ed or not...?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People will always post fluf like "omg cool" or "looks wierd"... Tell people what kind of C\C you are looking for and i'm sure people will try and give that to you...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cmon though don't leave again :uhh:

[Kuroi_Ame]

 

I know you never listen to C/c, but the dragon doesn't go right with the rest, it's position is off, it's completely vertical but the rest looks like it's more of a slant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blech, like you'll change it anyway..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

way to start a flame war??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have to agree with you though... the dragon(? I couldn't tell what it was) doesn't look so hawt in there...

 

 

 

What the freaking heck is with you and thinking everything I say is a flame!? PJB said the dragon was weird, why don't you flame him for that, too!? Why not just go create a thread stating your officially flaming every freakin' person for posting that the dragon was weird!? Good God, nazgul, get off my back!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After looking at the update, godslayer, it looks less flat, unlike what I saw before. I like this new style of yours.

[Despaxes]

 

 

 

What the freaking heck is with you and thinking everything I say is a flame!? PJB said the dragon was weird, why don't you flame him for that, too!? Why not just go create a thread stating your officially flaming every freakin' person for posting that the dragon was weird!? Good God, nazgul, get off my back

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sometimes its just how you say, not so much what you say.

 

 

 

And what personality characteristics you have portrayed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can say stupid flippant remarks without a second look because ive always done that =). But people know they mean no harm and im like that to everything. However, if youre always serious and then you go tell someone their work sucks major pineapple testicles. You might get someone mad at you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And personal insults that make you seem like you know a person dont help =). Never and always arent words that can be used online. You dont really know anyone. Saying noone ever listens to C/C is impossible to judge. He may not fix the piece he is working on, but he may consider what youre saying in the next one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and soo i am somewhat ontopic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really like the flow of the piece, and how you can sense the action with no movement. However, the land underneath the people seems too plain. some random scorch marks or little plants would help with that. Also, mybe a corpse to explain why the long haired dudes sword is bloody (how come hes the only one without a helmet haha)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anywho, id like to see a piece like this that yopu actually want to do, instead of an order. It would be so much better.

[eckered]

 

Nazgul: Attitude? Wierd is so vague that I had no choice but to basically ignore that. What was I supposed to say? 'Oh, wierd! I know exactly what you mean, thanks for being so descriptive!.'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your arguement is flawed in that, because I presume your talking about an employer, the only person who could command me into taking on other styles and would be listened to, pjb has no control over me. I dont need to impress him. I'm not a singular person, I dont act the same way towards everyone. If pjb was important to me keeping a job, then yeah, I would care more about what he said, but even then, saying 'it looks wierd' is by no means constructive critiscism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line: Pjb made a vague comment that can not count as c/c by virtue of sheer unspecificness. He said I don't care, and I agreed. As far as I'm concerned he means it doesn't look like a typical dragon, and that doesn't bother me at all. He has no influence over my income or wether I have a job, so I treat his comment as it deserved to be treated. I would not be ungrateful to a good spot of C/C, and I am not grateful to a bad one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not twelve by the way, I'm fourteen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True, weird isn't the most descriptive word ever, but if he had gone and said something like "I think that the dragon looks a odd around the head, it seems too squished and square to aline well with the large wings"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would you have gone and changed it? No, I don't think so. Just like how someone posted a picture of lava above and how it normally looks and you ignored that... You can't please everyone, and thats perfectly understandable... but from what I have seen, you have a habit of looking at suggestions-C\C and ignoring it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What type of C\C do you want? Just C\C on the pixelation and not on opinions on how people think it could be improved?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

he has listened to my cc on various occasions on rsm, like on the last two, i was the one to recomend to make the ground more gray, and less red-brown, i was also the one to sugest flowers. same with the first one; i told him to make the ground more tirquoise, and he listened, and tried it. i dont think its fair that you should say he never listens to cc, when on other forums, he listens to cc all of the time.

[WeeBoab]

Nazgul: Attitude? Wierd is so vague that I had no choice but to basically ignore that. What was I supposed to say? 'Oh, wierd! I know exactly what you mean, thanks for being so descriptive!.'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your arguement is flawed in that, because I presume your talking about an employer, the only person who could command me into taking on other styles and would be listened to, pjb has no control over me. I dont need to impress him. I'm not a singular person, I dont act the same way towards everyone. If pjb was important to me keeping a job, then yeah, I would care more about what he said, but even then, saying 'it looks wierd' is by no means constructive critiscism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bottom line: Pjb made a vague comment that can not count as c/c by virtue of sheer unspecificness. He said I don't care, and I agreed. As far as I'm concerned he means it doesn't look like a typical dragon, and that doesn't bother me at all. He has no influence over my income or wether I have a job, so I treat his comment as it deserved to be treated. I would not be ungrateful to a good spot of C/C, and I am not grateful to a bad one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not twelve by the way, I'm fourteen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well said, and last time i heard u were 12. must have been a few years ago =\

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

remember this is not specialised as pixel art forum, people will say vague comments like 'it looks weird.. -_- ..', people will say 'omgz its perfect!' and you will get people saying exactly what you want to hear. Just, this is a forum, people have the right to say what they want and its up to you what you make of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've refrained from posting any work here for a while because I personally don't think I'd get the critisism I want (and lately ive been doing stuff that's not ready to show atall), I stay to be of use for others and to be apart of the community that I know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong though, imput from this place can be great at times but there are few who are really in a position to give proffesional advice, Im at the age were im started to produce work for people, I am still learning so I need advice from those who know the subject well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't blame Godslayer for shunning your opinion if it leaves him at a dead-end thinking.. 'well I thought it looked fine, what could he possibly mean?' as at the end of the day it's personal opinion, he could change it to be perfect for you and then, someone else could have something else to say about it.. You can never get 'perfection'.. You know Godslayer has an attitude :lol: , i've learnt to see past that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But yeah, godslayer, lighten up. :shame: don't run off that's pathetic.. you've been getting great responses, don't hide whenever someone says something 'vague'..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ter, you might not get the C.C etc that you want and need from us here, but i enjoy, and most people here will/do enjoy your work. its nice to see a terley peice now and again, i remember when you first showed me a peice, and brought me to the forum. amazing pixel art was all over the place, but like urself theyve all moved away, as they need more professional comments. you dont have to check for c.c, just posting some work now and then would be nice, as art is meant to be shard :anxious:

[Sereth]

Seems like everyone is on a holiday hangover or something. Everybody take a chillaxitive.

 

 

 

Godslayers probably out of here already but if he isn't, I'll post some slightly vague C/C.

 

 

 

The piece flows pretty well and the background is good, wouldn't really change anything there.

 

 

 

The dragon could be rehashed if desired however. The neck could be made more defined from where it splits off into the shoulder muscles and little details like dead bodies, burned things, some legs would be good additions.

[Sir_Alex85]

Everybody take a chillaxitive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I did. The result was messy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lighten up goiys!

[Lowgravity]

Haha how hippercritical Terley to say "don't run off and hide when people don't give you the C/C you want" when you just admitted you are doing the exact same thing; because of the responses of this community which you just complaining about. Did you just call yourself pathetic?

[Despaxes]

Everyone is a bit hypocritical.

 

 

 

Lets just stay on topic, and if you have a problem with someone Pm them.

 

 

 

if its not worht a PM then its not worth saying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I for one would love to keep seeing these GS.

[WeeBoab]

Haha how hippercritical Terley to say "don't run off and hide when people don't give you the C/C you want" when you just admitted you are doing the exact same thing; because of the responses of this community which you just complaining about. Did you just call yourself pathetic?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

umm, who are u? u dnt have the right to call ter hipocritical, simply because i doubt uve got any idea who he is and ur just tryin to start a fight, and because u cant spell the word ur using to accuse him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw guys, dnt moan at GS. its his art, so he can do what he wants with it. C/C ( in my mind ) is suggestions on how to make it better from ONE PERSONS POINT OF VIEW, it doesnt necesarily mean its manditory for the artist to implicate it in their peice.

[Garrgoyle]

WeeBoab you might want to read his post, it contains a clear explaination of why he thinks what Terely said is hypocritical. And on that note you can't spell it either. Also, what do you mean "who are u?" and "i doubt uve got any idea who he is"? LG has been around much longer than you mate.