fighter torso: further degrading player killing

[sykoknight]

Has anyone ever considered that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) Killing other people in the wild who are just working a clue, killing green dragons or crafting runes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) and then whining about how unfair it is that you are not getting as much of that other playerÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s stuff that you think you deserve

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3) may be the indication of an adolescently stunted character?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really, would a mature person act this way? I donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t think so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, why should we care, let them whine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your post isn't even half-way relevant to this topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Firstly, this has nothing to do with clues. If a person wore a fighter torso or fire cape while doing a clue, they deserve to loose it. If you are doing a clue, you shouldn't skull. If you aren't skulled you can easily protect 4 items (which is way to many anyways). It's in the wildy in the first place to make the clues dangerous because you can potentially get a reward worth millions.

 

 

 

Your are one of those people that want everything to be easy for you, one of the ones that wants Jagex to make a level that you pull and gives you 99s. This game was BASED on PKing...be happy that it isn't around the entire RS world like it was before the wilderness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, on topic, clues have NOTHING to do with this topic. You protect 4 items, and of those 4 items, non should be something like a fighter torso or fire cape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I still like my solution from before about items being obtainable, just not wearable unless you have completed the requirements, similar to dragon weapons.

[Loftur]

the idea of wearable after achived the goal and thus droppable seems fair.

[paulhartman]

The idea that this game is based on pking is just wrong, not to mention silly. Just compare all the time spent not in the wild to time in the wild. Just compare all the geography not in the wild to what is in the wild. Just compare all the people you find playing not in the wild to those in the wild. Just compare all the activities not in the wild to in the wild. Only a rather small percentage of the game takes place in the wild. So, based on pking, ROFLMAO.

[deciever2]

He's saying that Runescape is releasing too many items that are being used in PvP combat but cannot be looted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think the main reason they are doing this is to prevent a form of drop trading where one player kills another to get an item that they haven't earned. I'm not saying that the current system is perfect, but it would be even worse if a lower level pure with level 94 mage could barrage someone and get barrows gloves and a fire cape.

[muggiwhplar]

The idea that this game is based on pking is just wrong, not to mention silly. Just compare all the time spent not in the wild to time in the wild. Just compare all the geography not in the wild to what is in the wild. Just compare all the people you find playing not in the wild to those in the wild. Just compare all the activities not in the wild to in the wild. Only a rather small percentage of the game takes place in the wild. So, based on pking, ROFLMAO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RS used to be based on PK'ing :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's saying that Runescape is releasing too many items that are being used in PvP combat but cannot be looted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think the main reason they are doing this is to prevent a form of drop trading where one player kills another to get an item that they haven't earned. I'm not saying that the current system is perfect, but it would be even worse if a lower level pure with level 94 mage could barrage someone and get barrows gloves and a fire cape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds fair to me as long as they cannot wear it until they complete RFD/Fight Caves

[magekillr]

The idea that this game is based on pking is just wrong, not to mention silly. Just compare all the time spent not in the wild to time in the wild. Just compare all the geography not in the wild to what is in the wild. Just compare all the people you find playing not in the wild to those in the wild. Just compare all the activities not in the wild to in the wild. Only a rather small percentage of the game takes place in the wild. So, based on pking, ROFLMAO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hi rs2 product...i don't use that term but when you just go and disrespect like that i will do the same to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

runescape was based purely on pking...and...well that's it. the whole map WAS the wild. why do you think there are guards in varrock and popular cities before the wild? they would intervene in your fight and not allow you to fight in public...that was their purpose. of course that seems silly now as they are so low of a level, but when i started if i saw a lvl 40 i was like "HOLY CRAP!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now...back on topic. this needs to be vamped..and i agree with some of the suggestions :D

[sykoknight]

The idea that this game is based on pking is just wrong, not to mention silly. Just compare all the time spent not in the wild to time in the wild. Just compare all the geography not in the wild to what is in the wild. Just compare all the people you find playing not in the wild to those in the wild. Just compare all the activities not in the wild to in the wild. Only a rather small percentage of the game takes place in the wild. So, based on pking, ROFLMAO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's nor wrong or silly.

 

 

 

Runescape was based on PKing. With the release of members, and then RS2, the game started to drift away from PKing.

 

 

 

But the base of RS, how it all started way back 6 years ago, was PKing. EVERYTHING revolved around PKing. Without it, nothing in the game had a point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now days, RS is not about PKing, but it's start, its roots, its base for foundation started with PKing. Now days, if anything, I would say RS is focused on money rather then Pking or skills.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From the few posts I have seen from you, it is fairly obvious you never played RSC, or if you did it was very briefly before RS2's release. That's not a fault on your part, but don't try to act like you know every aspect of this game if you haven't seen the changes yourself over the years.

[paulhartman]

Runescape based on pking? Autos were based on wagons and carts. Runescape is not about pking. Every skill in Runescape is more important than pking. Live in the distant past if you want. But, to say that it is based on pking is like living with a horse and buggy in the auto age. Should all highways be buggy friendly? Should cities be built around the ability to feed and water horses? That is why the arguments about the important of pking are so silly. They are so, yesterday. Take pking out of Runscape and you still have a game. Take the rest of Runescape out of pking and there is nothing left.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The people holding on the glory pking days, whineing about any update to the game that does put its greatest respect on the continued glory of pking, are like people complaing about the invention of autos. They are, well, they are putting the cart before the horse.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is simply a fact, get over it.

[koddo1]

They are saying that the game was built from, became popular, and is what it is today because of Pking. They are not saying that right now the game is based of PKing, if you bothered to comprehend what they wrote you would clearly see they said that it has drifted away from Pking. And your analogy makes no sense. Pking is still around and is still a large part of the game. Many, many people PK or make pures to PK. A very, very small percentage of the population uses horses and such as transportation, and all the streets where they live are horse friendly.

[Kill_Thomas9]

 

Ok, if you are a pker, then of course, that is bad. But why should Jagex render these objects? Nearly all of them are hard work to obtain, and they are untradeable for a reason.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This whole issue could be fixed though. These items really should be tradable. People shouldn't be able to get away with what they're doing. Either way, if you pk someone who has an untradable item, you're doing something that takes a lot of work just like they did too. Even if you buy an item that would otherwise be untradable because it took someone a lot of work to get, you're also putting in work! It's not like you're getting an untradable item for free. With the exception of holiday rares that show your character age and have no value and quest items that you can obtain multiple copies of, all other items should be tradable. Making items untradable is just stupid. It takes away from so much of the game. Yes, even fire capes should be tradable. The person who got it had to put in a lot of work, and the person who bought it also had to put in a lot of work. Work is work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Better Idea:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

make it so you can't wear these items in the wildernes.

[paulhartman]

The argument that the game is based on pking and therefor updates should continue to honor that glorious tradition is what makes no sense. They are complaining the new items are bad for pking. But Jagex needs to introduce new exquipment that is good for the game as a whole, not just pking. They have the tail wagging the dog. Jagex should do what is right for the vast majority of time that is spent on things other than pking, not just do what is right for the playerss that want to steal the possessions of other players. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you have a game that is 95% skills, quests etc., and maybe 5% pking, should you not do some good thing for the 95% just because it may hurt the 5%? No. That makes no sense at all. It is the game as a whole that should be improved, even if a small, whiney part of it is unhappy about it.

[magekillr]

The argument that the game is based on pking and therefor updates should continue to honor that glorious tradition is what makes no sense. They are complaining the new items are bad for pking. But Jagex needs to introduce new exquipment that is good for the game as a whole, not just pking. They have the tail wagging the dog. Jagex should do what is right for the vast majority of time that is spent on things other than pking, not just do what is right for the playerss that want to steal the possessions of other players. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you have a game that is 95% skills, quests etc., and maybe 5% pking, should you not do some good thing for the 95% just because it may hurt the 5%? No. That makes no sense at all. It is the game as a whole that should be improved, even if a small, whiney part of it is unhappy about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

almost every skill benefits pking in some way shape or form

[mbrun]

I agree with the Wolf analogy. I have never asked for a fight, nor been prepared for one in the wild ( other than for running). My first experience was doing a level 3 clue scroll (2 hrs and 3 trips in the wild only to be pked cause I couldnt find correct spot to dig- even with guide).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have no sympathy for pkers not getting untradeables but agree they should make these items like the dlong, dscimmy. That way the would be quickly replaceable if lost/stolen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have never pked but once I get my mage up to 85 then let the retribution begin. Can't wait to get at those RC pkers and other "wolves". I particularly like those brave pkers that pk non-macroers at the green dragons cause they didn't eat fast enough or keep their health maxed out.

[thehate]

 

:evil: You copied someones post which is uncool

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

: Also I say pking was ruined when pures came along :uhh: Dont hurt me (note: I havent pked since umm...wow 1 and a half years ago) :XD:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pures have been around since the rune 2h was made...thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and that was MY post...i am veniv1div1ci

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, this should probably go in rants. Second of all, you do realize that 375 points in each role of Barbarian Assault is no small feat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

neither is getting a fire cape, but people still player kill in that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pures have been around since r2h came? what about people like D E A D L Y?

[GrimHams]

and that was MY post...i am veniv1div1ci

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd imagine you'd complain about pc if you didnt level there, saw you there yesterday.

[wesley19933]

Yesterday I saw 1 pker wielding a set..and I was thinking...*** is that!? u won't lose much money even if u die in wild!!!That was what he was wearing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runner hat(It'll be dropped as he die but able to pick back)

 

 

 

Fighting torso(It'll be dropped as he die but able to pick back)

 

 

 

Fire cape(It'll be dropped as he die but able to pick back)

 

 

 

Strength ammy 5k(It'll be dropped as he die)

 

 

 

D long(Item protect)

 

 

 

CW leg-the one which is same as addy(It'll be dropped as he die but able to pick back)

 

 

 

Rune gloves 6.5k(It'll be dropped as he die)

 

 

 

Rune defender(It'll be dropped as he die but able to pick back)

 

 

 

Climbing boots 12gp(It'll be dropped as he die)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If he dies,the total lost excluding the items in his bag will be

 

 

 

5k+6.5k+12gp=11512gp

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm wondering why Jagex makes so much items to ruin the wilderness~

[Smapla]

Yesterday I saw 1 pker wielding a set..and I was thinking...*** is that!? u won't lose much money even if u die in wild!!!That was what he was wearing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runner hat(It'll be dropped as he die but able to pick back)

 

 

 

Fighting torso(It'll be dropped as he die but able to pick back)

 

 

 

Fire cape(It'll be dropped as he die but able to pick back)

 

 

 

Strength ammy 5k(It'll be dropped as he die)

 

 

 

D long(Item protect)

 

 

 

CW leg-the one which is same as addy(It'll be dropped as he die but able to pick back)

 

 

 

Rune gloves 6.5k(It'll be dropped as he die)

 

 

 

Rune defender(It'll be dropped as he die but able to pick back)

 

 

 

Climbing boots 12gp(It'll be dropped as he die)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If he dies,the total lost excluding the items in his bag will be

 

 

 

5k+6.5k+12gp=11512gp

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm wondering why Jagex makes so much items to ruin the wilderness~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then kill him before he can get them back and he'll never do it again

[evilrodyle]

Well, if you don't think that edgeville provides enough loot, get 1-2 friends, get some ahrims, and go pking at drags or mb. Honestly, I never edge pk anymore for that reason and that I find the fights just annoying. I attack, I kill, someone mage pjs, i die, I run back, I get iced, I eventually get the items, and leave furious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mb loot owns edge loot anyway :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ahrims, maybe whip per kill. Really cant complain there :)

[Kariga]

Maybe all these untradable items were a hint to move playerkilling areas away from edgeville/ other low level wild areas ( easy to run away from wilderness)

 

 

 

to 40+ wilderness if you want to get loot. To deep wild here you can not get your precious torso back from *evil laugh*

[Hevendor_Guy]

Get the hell over it. Adapt your style, and move on. PKing is still fun, and there's always MB PKING, where the good PKs are. PKing can still be done for fun (just look at whoever's guide for green dragon autoer killing), it doesn't have to be for good stuff or xp. So shut up, quit complaining that everyone else uses good items, and GO AND USE THEM!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Man I HATE whiners like you.

[Miner03]

First of all, this should probably go in rants. Second of all, you do realize that 375 points in each role of Barbarian Assault is no small feat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its quite easy actually, I got the Fighter Torso the first day BA came out and I was 90 combat \ I had a really good team though and we changed roles when we had got our points in each role.

[jessy87]

Maybe all these untradable items were a hint to move playerkilling areas away from edgeville/ other low level wild areas ( easy to run away from wilderness)

 

 

 

to 40+ wilderness if you want to get loot. To deep wild here you can not get your precious torso back from *evil laugh*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

exactly...

[B_50_2]

 

It takes longer to get a fighter torso than it does to get a fire cape. :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

not when 98% of pkers PAY others to get them for them. there are websites dedicated solely to that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ever wonder why fire capes wern't very common even months after their release? b/c no1 sold them then...or it wasn't as popular

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now if someone can't do it, they pay someone 4-10M to do it for them

 

 

 

Oh yeah.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I Mahatma I: Yo like my cape

 

 

 

Noob: Get me a fire cape

 

 

 

I Mahatma I: Ya shur

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And how do you know?

[the_drunk_dude]

competly agree, pk is exciting and dieing sucks in rs because u LOSE items

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

other games u lose a bit of exp and ur cool, but rs is rs because of the items and huge profits that can be made

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

something has to be done, something that will make the wilderness not feel like a padded down rubber room with minimal losses

[tryto]

When you pk someone with an anchor, they drop 200k instead of the anchor. That is what should happen with all untradeable items like that, such as fighter torso, rune defender, fire cape, they should all be assigned a monentary value, and when someone dies with them, they should drop that amount.