fighter torso: further degrading player killing

[paulhartman]

Talking about being unfair for people who are trying to take the possessions of other players is a hoot. Is it unfair for a burglar to put your real live valuables in a safe? Is it unfair to protect your account from keyloggers? The whole idea of being fair to thugs who prey on other people is just juvenile and dumb.

[Adam007]

Talking about being unfair for people who are trying to take the possessions of other players is a hoot. Is it unfair for a burglar to put your real live valuables in a safe? Is it unfair to protect your account from keyloggers? The whole idea of being fair to thugs who prey on other people is just juvenile and dumb.

 

 

 

But the wilderness isn't illegal, like your example was. It's encouraged, and the sole purpose of pking. Pking, whether you like it or not, is central to the game. And people pk for items and for fun. Taking out the items part kind of makes pking artificial and faked.

[spikerkid]

I'm gonna get flamed but w\e.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mabe they could make the non tradable items disappear after they die. So it makes people have to get them back or don't bring them at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flame away

[magekillr]

 

 

:evil: You copied someones post which is uncool

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

: Also I say pking was ruined when pures came along :uhh: Dont hurt me (note: I havent pked since umm...wow 1 and a half years ago) :XD:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pures have been around since the rune 2h was made...thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and that was MY post...i am veniv1div1ci

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, this should probably go in rants. Second of all, you do realize that 375 points in each role of Barbarian Assault is no small feat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

neither is getting a fire cape, but people still player kill in that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i believe pures were in runescape long before rune2h

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i meant widespread...and the idea of protecting your item in the wild while having little or no defense....THAT came with the rune 2h...praaaaaaaaay (crunch killa) was the one who told me to do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sure pkers were made b4 this (players who didn't level magic)...but to my knowledge "prayer beasts" were not because you could wear rune in 1 defense. i nhad a character that was 30 att 12 def 50 str wear ful rune, rune long, and mith kite.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and i am not risking sending them a site link to get unfairly banned

[A8800123]

Like the other guy said, make those capes / gloves tradeable but not wearable by others without doing specific task.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and make it such that you cant take fire cape from the ground after you die ( thats if the suggestion above do not happen.. ) and 99% of players with fire cape wont wear it to pk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Paying ppl to get the cape back wont help because it would greatly decrease the profit of pking.

[muggiwhplar]

 

 

Basically to sum up: player killers are Wolves hunting for weak prey. This is the way Jagex designed the wilderness, as time has gone on Jagex has introduced more and more reasons for non- PKer's to go into the wildy, Abyss, Treasure Trails etc... and thusly overtime to balance this increased amount of prey for PKer's to feast on new equipment has been introduced which cannot be looted. THIS IS WHAT WE CALL BALANCE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why would a non-PK'er wear a fighter torso?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's dumb how all these better pieces of equipment have been introduced, encouraging PK'ing with untradable items. It'd be nice, like someone above said before, if the untradables were tradable but unweildable without a requirement. People could "buy back" the items you PK'd from them and you'd actually get something out of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because it gives a strength bonus :-k That's the only reason someone would wear it #-o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've quit pking (since I've had rather... evil experiences in the wildy) so it really doesn't affect me... and same with a lot of other people too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I meant in the wilderness

[jessy87]

personally i think theirs bigger issues in runescape then the introduction of items that cant be looted by other players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

doesnt mean this isnt an issue... but still. i would so love to so prayer and prayer pots taken out of the wildy entirely. so if your skulled, you loose 100% of your stuff if you die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

people complain about everything

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also, i dont see why the fighter torso is the only thing to be mentioned... first of all the ranger skirt is like a blk dhide legging and every other peice is reasonably good. look @ the fighter helm and runner helm decent defense and could be worn by any1 not looted.

[Sirob1414]

Talking about being unfair for people who are trying to take the possessions of other players is a hoot. Is it unfair for a burglar to put your real live valuables in a safe? Is it unfair to protect your account from keyloggers? The whole idea of being fair to thugs who prey on other people is just juvenile and dumb.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where did this idea of pkers being thugs come from? There are just as many people if not more non-pkers who try to take advatnage of people outside of wild and plenty of pkers who are there to have a good time. There was a huge part of the map set apart for people to pk, apparently the creators of the game think that pking is important.

[magekillr]

also, i dont see why the fighter torso is the only thing to be mentioned... first of all the ranger skirt is like a blk dhide legging and every other peice is reasonably good. look @ the fighter helm and runner helm decent defense and could be worn by any1 not looted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cause i didn't have enough characters :oops:

[A8800123]

personally i think theirs bigger issues in runescape then the introduction of items that cant be looted by other players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

doesnt mean this isnt an issue... but still. i would so love to so prayer and prayer pots taken out of the wildy entirely. so if your skulled, you loose 100% of your stuff if you die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

people complain about everything

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also, i dont see why the fighter torso is the only thing to be mentioned... first of all the ranger skirt is like a blk dhide legging and every other peice is reasonably good. look @ the fighter helm and runner helm decent defense and could be worn by any1 not looted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Black hides are too cheap for most pkers to even bother about and they must be stupid to waste so much time getting the skirt to save 10k? The helm might have decent def but a rune large is like 25k...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fighter torso is mainly being mentioned because of the +4 strength it provide. A 1 - 2 damage bonus can easily affect a fight and the guy who killed someone with the torso wouldnt even get it..

[Kimberly]

Take the good with the bad. Yeah, you can complain about it, but there is a very very small chance that someone would take out a Fighter plate into the wilderness. B.A. is a hard game to get all those points on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I think that the whole wilderness needs to be revamped with PvP around the entire world map except for "trade routes between towns" and the towns themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But that's something else entirely.

[gonzlar]

hi, i have been playing this game for god knows how long...i have pked before the wilderness was released, when addy battle axes were the best weapon and near impossible to get cause they were never in the store.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

enough about me...that was just something i had to say to introduce my argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, pking in runescape is probably what has kept me here for these 6 years (in Feburary). it is unlike ANY other MMO because you keep the stuff from people that you kill and overcome...makes it very unique and is what makes runescape..runescape. it is the reason i do not play any other game on the computer. i enjoy looting people's stuff and it's what makes this game fun. i will not discuss RSC cause it's PVP wasn't flawed. (except maybe ranging)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

then, the teleblock skill is released and people did not bring much into the wilderness for fear of being not able to teleport away...fine w/e.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

then, the idea of fire cape selling was released. this was not THAT big of a deal because people just used legends capes anyway instead of the obsidian cape...but it made pking elss profitable..fine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

then, the heavy hitter...the defender. this made obby shields plummet and the demand for them went away. when this was the key shield, most pked in one and it was a very profitable item to get. but defenders took it away and made shields basically unpkable...yet again...fine. i didn't agree with it..but w/e

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now the unheard of comes about...the release of a plate body that not only gives str bonus giving even more damage to be dealt (what like 45s with whip now? half someone's hp), but you are able to loot it AFTER you die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this is getting absolutely ridiculous. people come to the wilderness to pk other's things, but this game is slowly turning into another game, a game that i don't like. i like this game only for it's pvp, and now that's being taken away

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this needs to be vamped...ASAP. now people only get a helmet and legs? comon...(we all know protect item)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[magekillr]

Take the good with the bad. Yeah, you can complain about it, but there is a very very small chance that someone would take out a Fighter plate into the wilderness. B.A. is a hard game to get all those points on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I think that the whole wilderness needs to be revamped with PvP around the entire world map except for "trade routes between towns" and the towns themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But that's something else entirely.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i agree,...but just go to the wilderness...all you see is the fighter plates now

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and whoever posted that picture...go back to skilling maggot

[paulhartman]

Has anyone ever considered that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) Killing other people in the wild who are just working a clue, killing green dragons or crafting runes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) and then whining about how unfair it is that you are not getting as much of that other playerÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s stuff that you think you deserve

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3) may be the indication of an adolescently stunted character?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really, would a mature person act this way? I donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t think so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, why should we care, let them whine.

[magekillr]

Has anyone ever considered that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) Killing other people in the wild who are just working a clue, killing green dragons or crafting runes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) and then whining about how unfair it is that you are not getting as much of that other playerÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s stuff that you think you deserve

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3) may be the indication of an adolescently stunted character?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really, would a mature person act this way? I donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t think so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, why should we care, let them whine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

why did you type your argument like that? i don't understand your point...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

jagex put the zammy mage in the wild to make runecrafting faster runes have a risk...why should more exp come with no risk?...same with dragon hides

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the clue is in the wild BECAUSE it is a lvl 3 clue and is made dangerous for a good reward...a possible good reward

[Rebdragon]

 

 

It takes longer to get a fighter torso than it does to get a fire cape. :roll:

 

 

 

spoken like a true noob who's never entered the wilderness.

 

 

 

go back to skilling 18 hours a day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What does getting a fire cape have to do with entering the wilderness? You're just making yourself look bad here.

 

 

 

You two should be friends, or dating; you're very much alike :P .

[jessy87]

 

 

 

It takes longer to get a fighter torso than it does to get a fire cape. :roll:

 

 

 

spoken like a true noob who's never entered the wilderness.

 

 

 

go back to skilling 18 hours a day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What does getting a fire cape have to do with entering the wilderness? You're just making yourself look bad here.

 

 

 

You two should be friends, or dating; you're very much alike :P .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you of all people should know not to encourage anything which may lead to the inter breeding amongst scapers :shame:

[Rebdragon]

 

You two should be friends, or dating; you're very much alike :P .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you of all people should know not to encourage anything which may lead to the inter breeding amongst scapers :shame:

 

 

 

:lol: Ya, I know, I hate all that "marriage" and "dating" crud in game. But not only is this not in game, but my "encouragement", as you call it, would do nothing :lol: - Fresh also thinks dating/marrying in game is weird as hell, and Itsjustagame most likely has the same opinion. Hm, intruiging...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, just a little joke dude :P . Well, maybe a truthful joke, but a joke nontheless :P .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Note: If that was sarcasm, I couldn't tell, so sorry if it is =P.

[buffrichie]

another vets got your back buddy ima spam that topic with bumps.... first off teleblock is what started it... they shoulda just made that for 30 wild and below... teleblock made ppl afraid to solo at mage bank and deep wild alone back in the day teams actually fought in multi and it was actually really fun to go multi pking...

[magekillr]

another vets got your back buddy ima spam that topic with bumps.... first off teleblock is what started it... they shoulda just made that for 30 wild and below... teleblock made ppl afraid to solo at mage bank and deep wild alone back in the day teams actually fought in multi and it was actually really fun to go multi pking...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

exactly. some people (un-knowing people) believe that teleport block HELPED the wild. it is obvious either they have never stepped foot inside, or don't realize how much it really hurt...now you need a tber, a few barragers and meleers to stand a close chance at mb...let alone solo it.

[buffrichie]

yea and a team of 10 will brag when they are beating a solo pker who they wouldnt have the fortitude to attack if it was just you and him

[kdb148]

If you're so great at fair fights, why not go to the duel arena? Then you can make sure you get a nice reward for winning.

[magekillr]

If you're so great at fair fights, why not go to the duel arena? Then you can make sure you get a nice reward for winning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the duel arena is about luck...and it's like a casino..you only win big if you're really lucky..or abuse/get an advantage somehow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

otherwise you'll get cleaned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and fair fights? wtf lol..this has nothing to do with "fair fights"

[buffrichie]

If you're so great at fair fights, why not go to the duel arena? Then you can make sure you get a nice reward for winning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this is prolly coming from some level 90 that challenges 120s in a box stake and uses bandages on them or some cheap duel arena cheat

[Will H]

If you're so great at fair fights, why not go to the duel arena? Then you can make sure you get a nice reward for winning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont think the Wilderness is really a place where fairness reigns.

 

 

 

I agree, I think that it should just dissapear, or perhaps convert into a bit of cash for the pker. That way they stay untradable, and reward the pker.