The iPhone

[Faux]

I want a cell phone that just calls people. That would be innovative.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have an old Nokia that does just that :oops:

[Intarweb]

"Revolutionary User Interfaces"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, a touch screen is so incredibly revolutionary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And what's more, for the same amount of money, if not less, you could have an MP3 play AND a cell phone that both do better jobs than the iPhone does alone. Never mind this, corporate pandering and smart marketing will inevitably cause an uber[bleep]e in popularity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll be sitting in my bomb shelter while a self-aware Google fires ICBMs at Steve Jobs in a bid for world domination and machine takeover a la the Terminator.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How about doing your research before you post?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. The iPhone is an ENTIRE screen - Smart Phones currently don't offer that. If you actually read about why it's considered "revolutionary" you would know it's not just a touch screen. The ENTIRE phone is a touch screen. There are no buttons. The buttons change on the screen depending on the application, for starters. As well, the screen is a new patented technology called "multi-touch" which is a "smart" type of touch screen. It's not just a normal touch screen on a smart phone like you try to suggest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. Smartphones cost upwards of $350, most of them costing more around $400-600. Combing that technology WITH an iPod that has 4gigs of built in memory (that would be more than $100 to get via an SD card or something for another smart phone) and its not more than a smart phone plus an MP3 player. You're wrong about that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. How can you even determine that things do "better jobs than the iPhone" when it hasn't even been introduced but for a day? Take your anti-Apple fanboyism somewhere else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't really judge this product because I haven't used it. I think its expensive for regular users. But I like what I've seen so far and I'm sure as not going to try and flaunt its greatness yet, nor am I going to try and ridicule it like you did (well, at least if I did I would have the proper knowledge about it to do so).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And indy... I use my phone to send text messages WAY more than I do to call people so I'm not with you on this one. :P

[Parabola]

Yes, a touch screen is so incredibly revolutionary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Multi-touch screen. I'd call that pretty revolutionary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. The iPhone is an ENTIRE screen - Smart Phones currently don't offer that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a PDA-phone - other PDA-phones do offer that. Plenty of those made by HTC, for example.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. Smartphones cost upwards of $350, most of them costing more around $400-600.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm from rip-off Britain and my PDA-phone (the most expensive one on the market here) cost ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã150 on a ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã20/month contract. I'd be pretty surprised to see it going for more than $300 over there, given that you normally don't pay the direct conversion amount in dollars over there.

[____]

I'd still take any O2 over it.

[Guest]

Wee! I showed it to my Mom, and she'll considering getting one for me! Yippie!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have cingular anyway, and I"m really hating my RAZR, so this is just what I need. :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apple did great on this, no complaints from what I can see.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're like 11 Years old, as if you need another mobile, let alone one of the best one's out there. Who would you ring anyway, Mummy or Daddy? Spoilt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway sounds like a great new product out there. Is there like a prepaid version of it, or does it only run off a plan? :?

[assassin_696]

I have cingular anyway, and I"m really hating my RAZR, so this is just what I need. :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The RAZR is a perfectly fine phone :?

[Parabola]

The RAZR is a perfectly fine phone :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Phone, yes. Anything else, no. It is a fine phone with a terrible UI & crippled bluetooth (file transfer disabled). Both my parents have them.

[assassin_696]

 

The RAZR is a perfectly fine phone :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Phone, yes. Anything else, no. It is a fine phone with a terrible UI & crippled bluetooth (file transfer disabled). Both my parents have them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

File transfer disabled? Not on mine, but I don't use bluetooth much anyway. It's great for what I need.

[How2PK]

The text says Blood on the Tracks, while the picture shows that Blonde on Blonde is selected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, all cell phones should be burned. If there's something I hate, it's the cell phone.

[Mercifull]

Unless it has a battery that can last for at least 2 days without being turned off then it will be a complete flop. People can live without their mp3 players in an emergency but not thair cell phones.

[Guest]

The text says Blood on the Tracks, while the picture shows that Blonde on Blonde is selected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, all cell phones should be burned. If there's something I hate, it's the cell phone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Explain why? That's a strange thing to hate. It's helpful in Emergencies, and in other situations. So why the hate? :?

[____]

Unless it has a battery that can last for at least 2 days without being turned off then it will be a complete flop. People can live without their mp3 players in an emergency but not thair cell phones.

Battery

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing

 

 

 

Up to 16 hours Audio playback

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No mention of idle / sleep battery life - which is the important thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm thinking it's going to be somewhere around a day - max.

 

 

 

And I'm being hopefull about that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:uhh:

[How2PK]

 

The text says Blood on the Tracks, while the picture shows that Blonde on Blonde is selected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, all cell phones should be burned. If there's something I hate, it's the cell phone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Explain why? That's a strange thing to hate. It's helpful in Emergencies, and in other situations. So why the hate? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe it's the way it's used that I hate. Because everybody is constantly walking around talking about nothing in plastic cans all the time. It's highly annoying that you can't even go into a normal shop without there being some kind of idiot talking in his cellphone. I don't see why everybody needs to be available all the time. When I'm in a caf̮̩̉̉ with a friend, he always has his cellphone on, and he complains that I haven't got mine with me. Why the hell would I need to have my cellphone with me when I'm meeting somebody? I'm bussy doing then something right? Why would I want to be disturbed? 15 years ago we didn't had them, and we all survived. I don't see why suddendly everybody is carrying the darn thing around everywhere they go. And why do people who have one find it neccesary to constantly use it to 'talk' with people. If you want to speak a friend, just meet him/her?

[Guest]

 

 

The text says Blood on the Tracks, while the picture shows that Blonde on Blonde is selected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, all cell phones should be burned. If there's something I hate, it's the cell phone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Explain why? That's a strange thing to hate. It's helpful in Emergencies, and in other situations. So why the hate? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe it's the way it's used that I hate. Because everybody is constantly walking around talking about nothing in plastic cans all the time. It's highly annoying that you can't even go into a normal shop without there being some kind of idiot talking in his cellphone. I don't see why everybody needs to be available all the time. When I'm in a caf̮̩̉̉ with a friend, he always has his cellphone on, and he complains that I haven't got mine with me. Why the hell would I need to have my cellphone with me when I'm meeting somebody? I'm bussy doing then something right? Why would I want to be disturbed? 15 years ago we didn't had them, and we all survived. I don't see why suddendly everybody is carrying the darn thing around everywhere they go. And why do people who have one find it neccesary to constantly use it to 'talk' with people. If you want to speak a friend, just meet him/her?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh ok. Well that's understandable. But it's like any new technology out there nowadays, if it's available people will want to use it -generally regularly.

[Parabola]

 

Unless it has a battery that can last for at least 2 days without being turned off then it will be a complete flop. People can live without their mp3 players in an emergency but not thair cell phones.

Battery

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing

 

 

 

Up to 16 hours Audio playback

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No mention of idle / sleep battery life - which is the important thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm thinking it's going to be somewhere around a day - max.

 

 

 

And I'm being hopefull about that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PDA phones do not get turned off. They are constantly on, just the screen gets turned off. I have had 2 PDA-phones so far and on each, with normal usage (approx 1-hour of PDA-usage a day) the battery will last 3 days.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because they are bigger, they can fit a larger battery. The one I have now has a 3.7v 1620mAh battery - what about normal mobile phones?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The iPhone's battery, if used as a phone and PDA, will last far longer than a day. I don't know about audio usage, so I couldn't comment on that, but I have used my phone to watch videos and that has consumed the same amount of power as normal PDA-usage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The sort of user who will buy an iPhone is the same sort of user who will buy other PDA-phones. If phone functionality was so important to them they'd buy a plain vanilla mobile phone. They value PDA functionality more though, so they get a PDA-phone.

[BlueTear]

So... What's a multi-touch screen, anyway?

[Parabola]

Where you can touch it in more than one place at any one time and it will recognise all touches. Normally touch screens can only recognise and track one touch, however recently there has been work on multiple-touch displays, and I believe this is the first to become commercially available.

[BlueTear]

Aha, that explains it, thanks.

[Death_By_Pod]

It's a nice phone and has plenty of potential for improvement, however the $600 price tag is a major turn off. I guess I'm just one of those people who like a phone to make calls and sms; I guess high tech phones just isn't my thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Multi-touch screen. I'd call that pretty revolutionary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The technology is revolutionary, however it's use for a small screen on a phone is pretty limited. The examples on apple's site don't offer anything new that couldn't be done with only one finger. You can flip through album covers and photos by dragging a finger in the direction you want to move and you can zoom in and out via touch buttons or gestures. You shouldn't have to make something so complex that it requires multiple fingers to operate in the first place; especially for simple tasks like calling someone up.

[Parabola]

I didn't look at the applications for the multi-touch technology on the site, but I'm positive that it won't be required for something as simple as making a call.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Given Apple's talent for intuitive interfaces I'm sure they'll make something of it sooner or later. Right now it may be a technology looking for its killer application though.

[Locke]

You shouldn't have to make something so complex that it requires multiple fingers to operate in the first place; especially for simple tasks like calling someone up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those simple tasks don't require two fingers. Some of the features that the multi-touch display currently use are things like, in the Photo App, you can place to fingers on a photo and move them closer together to make the picture small, and spread them out to make them bigger. You should watch the Expo to see how it works. The simple tasks like making a phone call only require one finger.

[Ape]

That is a preeetty neat phone. I want one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wonder what Apple would bring out next...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Mitch

[Kwisatz]

 

"Revolutionary User Interfaces"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, a touch screen is so incredibly revolutionary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And what's more, for the same amount of money, if not less, you could have an MP3 play AND a cell phone that both do better jobs than the iPhone does alone. Never mind this, corporate pandering and smart marketing will inevitably cause an uber[bleep]e in popularity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll be sitting in my bomb shelter while a self-aware Google fires ICBMs at Steve Jobs in a bid for world domination and machine takeover a la the Terminator.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How about doing your research before you post?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. The iPhone is an ENTIRE screen - Smart Phones currently don't offer that. If you actually read about why it's considered "revolutionary" you would know it's not just a touch screen. The ENTIRE phone is a touch screen. There are no buttons. The buttons change on the screen depending on the application, for starters. As well, the screen is a new patented technology called "multi-touch" which is a "smart" type of touch screen. It's not just a normal touch screen on a smart phone like you try to suggest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. Smartphones cost upwards of $350, most of them costing more around $400-600. Combing that technology WITH an iPod that has 4gigs of built in memory (that would be more than $100 to get via an SD card or something for another smart phone) and its not more than a smart phone plus an MP3 player. You're wrong about that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. How can you even determine that things do "better jobs than the iPhone" when it hasn't even been introduced but for a day? Take your anti-Apple fanboyism somewhere else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't really judge this product because I haven't used it. I think its expensive for regular users. But I like what I've seen so far and I'm sure as not going to try and flaunt its greatness yet, nor am I going to try and ridicule it like you did (well, at least if I did I would have the proper knowledge about it to do so).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And indy... I use my phone to send text messages WAY more than I do to call people so I'm not with you on this one. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see, they release these things, they're called SPECIFICATIONS AND FEATURE LISTS. If the product performs anywhere near as well as they make it out to do, you can make a comparison of features with other products.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even the iPod itself will do a better job as an MP3 player than the iPhone - better battery life, abundant accessories, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the smartphone sentiment, you can pick up a Motorola Q for $150 with contract. Granted it's not a fancy "multi-touch" screen but it still works does it not? With a QWERTY nevertheless. Speaking of which, what use is a multi-point touchscreen going to do? Did a regular touch-screen ever not work? The only time I could see it doing something useful is in a drawing application or a very large touchscreen for conference rooms, a far throw from anything on a 3.5" screen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And about the "whole phone is a touch screen" thing - there are numerous devices which are the same that have buttons. What makes them any better or worse, are extra buttons detracting from it's awesome factor or something?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, case in point. There are BETTER DEVICES that can be purchased for THE SAME PRICE. But this won't stop people such as yourself that decide to read into the actual usefulness of things from buying one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would like a VERY small cell phone that just makes calls personally - that would be great. I just got an enV because I saw that it had good battery life, and it's a far throw from what Verizon makes it out to be.

[indy500fan]

And indy... I use my phone to send text messages WAY more than I do to call people so I'm not with you on this one. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't really need one because I never have people to call or text message :o . The only reason I would want one is in case of an emergency.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Heh, first day of classes at college yesterday. That means the professors go through their rules, and eventually get to the "turn cell-phones off" rule. For some reason they always have to ask who doesn't have a cell phone. I think they all collaborate to find out who is teaching me and tell them to ask it to make me look stupid. Once again in both classes I was the only one without a cell phone. Even the older people have them. :D

[nyyankees588]

ipods are extrememly over rated~!!! :XD: anyway the phone looks ok, i would rather just get an ok phone, and mp3 player and a psp for that much money (and all of those would be a hell of alot better!)