Low Levels, why do you come to PC?

[rft]

Good thread.

 

 

 

I get pretty frustrated with low levels in PC too (lev 103). Having seen a level 40 spend an entire game trying to kill a splatter just made me laugh. What's the point? That person will have contributed nil to the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is the xp really that good for a level 40? Lets compare the xp between a typical level 40 and level 80. (I am assuming levels 35/75 combat stats for the 40/80 respectively). The level 40 gets 204xp per ticket, the level 80 gets 938 xp per ticket. Bear in mind that the level 40 will get fewer tickets/hour due to their smaller contribution to the game, is it really that good xp? It would take several hours for them to pick up 100 tickets, giving them a whopping 22k xp over several hours. That is really pretty slow. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also have issue with the medium levels too (not all, just a few). I think that it is the job of the highest level players to be hitting the portal, and the lower level players to make sure that the spinners are taken out/preoccupied. I always get into position to take out the spinners when they turn up, but you see a lot of players run behind the portal at the start and just attack it. They are happy to yell "SPINNER!!!!!!" at you while they are hitting their zeros, so as the highest level at a portal, i have to spend my time killing spinners and not attacking (where I can be most effective).

[liam892005]

 

... :-k

 

 

 

pures need exp too,

 

 

 

and i never can tell what 5 pures do to a game, as long as they stay and protect the void knight

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

edit: i can understand ranting about somebody that just closes gates, but still, that's one person right?

Pures and low lvl morons are different

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

low lvl moron - runs around hitting 0s on 32 shifters

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pure - usually knows what they're doing and can hit fairly decent but dies alot

 

 

 

So if your low lvl, and not a pure...Your a moron now? All of you are being pathetic, these people are here for the exp, remember, you were once THAT level.

[Rebdragon]

Maybe it's a conspiracy to modulate the insane experience gained from PC!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Or maybe they just want good experience? They don't count on having their skill win the game. Their counting on your muscle to do it.

[muggiwhplar]

It'd be nice if A) they raised the zeal quota or B) set it so you only get zeal from attacking the portal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well I'm gonna go train in the once-popular places which are now deserted because everyone has flooded to PC. Cya :)

[swordwindtrtrtrt]

Because they are worthless little pieces of trash who enjoy ruining other peoples fun.

Ok this is geting a little out of hand... Im lvl 75, and i dont do PC. I did it a couple of times, didnt like it.

 

 

 

(Unfortunately my team lost each time) I dont do it simply because i dont want to end up being one of those high lvl jerks who got their lvl through PC. If low lvs want to do it, let them. Theyll eventually twig not to come or not to do certain things. Hitting portals; what fun.

[blacksimon]

on my pure I could average 200-400 zeal on portals only... and yet Id get flamed by level 100s whod get 50 zeal and stop

[Shaddd]

Everyone in RS deserves some EXP. Whether they scam, or abide by the rules some of us call a lifestyle. Pures deserve EXP. Sure, at lower levels it's more efficient to train on rock crabs or something until a decent PC level, but it's they're choice. Your's to play it. If you don't like it, that's your probem. It's the team's way or the highway. The world doesn't revolve around you. And how dare you say lower levels don't contribute. If they didn't "leech" EXPs off of the wandering monsters, couldn't those go straight for the knight? They're helping, we all help in our own little way, you just don't notice it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's the little things in life that really, really count. If that made any sense at all whatsoever. :oops:

[dorington]

i havnt red all the post except 1st post so if this ideas already come up soz but there needs to be a system were depending on your level you can choose wat lvls to go to. for example at lvl 80 you can go on a:

 

 

 

lvl 40+ lander

 

 

 

lvl 60+ lander

 

 

 

lvl 80+ lander

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if your only lvl 50 though you can only go on a lvl 40+ lander.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the different type of landers should be:

 

 

 

lvl 40+

 

 

 

lvl 60+

 

 

 

lvl 80+

 

 

 

lvl 100+

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or the lower the lander lvl the easyer the monsters and portols are to kill. if this is the case you would have to stick to your lvl lander.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

problem solved

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of cause this is a suggestion so back to the present day it does annoy me to see low levels at pest control. They do nothing much to help unless they str, mage or range pures. The minimum limit for PC should be CB lvl 70

[pamzheng]

Well, I'm annoyed by how many low levels who do PC, I wish there was like boats for 40+ 50+ 60+ 70+ 80+ and so on, so a level 80 could be with people who were only around the same levels or better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apparently I'm not the first who thought of this, haha.

[Screechingmu]

High level pc products have to start from somewhere :wink: .

[Shaddd]

Well, I'm annoyed by how many low levels who do PC, I wish there was like boats for 40+ 50+ 60+ 70+ 80+ and so on, so a level 80 could be with people who were only around the same levels or better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apparently I'm not the first who thought of this, haha.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where's the variety in that? :-k

[salim123]

the same reason everybody does it

 

 

 

exp

 

 

 

its just that some of them get 50 damage and stop everything

[zman123123]

The obvious reason for a low level to come to PC is (of course) for the experience. My confusion is, why do low levels show up? Between levels of 40-60.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now you may be thinking i'm just hating on low levels right? Wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pest Control is a team based game.. and inless they contribute.. IMO they are kinda leaching. What do you mean, you ask? Well think about it. That level 40-60 could be replaced by a level 80 or 90 or 100.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can a group of 25 level 40's win PC? I would honestly say no. And anyone else here would have to agree as there are tons of groups between 60-80 loosing most of the time. The level 100 monster spawns would pwn them bad!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But just because they aren't quite contributing combat wise doesn't mean they can, there is always other stuff like repairing the defenses, leading monsters astray, and even using the melee to block the rangers/magic monsters who fling their arrows at the balanced knight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mainly, seeing low levels annoys me. It only slows the progress down of winning, and seeing as they don't have high stats anyway, the experience is not all that worth while i'm sure. 40x40 = 1600 divided by 6 = 266 a point. Any creature with 50 hp can give you that.. if you just go to em and kill em! That will probably be faster for you than actually playing pest control.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Usually they are the one's who kill my spider friend who just happens to be saving the knights life.. so they can get those precious xp they came for in the first place.. The conversation usually goes like this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Me: "Don't please"

 

 

 

lvl 40: *continues to attack*

 

 

 

Me: Stop!

 

 

 

lvl 40: *continues to attack*

 

 

 

Me: (enter player name here) Please stop attacking the spider!

 

 

 

lvl 40: *continues to attack* why?

 

 

 

*Spider Dies*

 

 

 

lvl 40: Lol noob.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Knight Dies*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And people honestly do wonder why high levels search for ONLY high level parties.. its not just because of the level but because of actually knowing how to play the game..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw, i'm not a noob. I"m level 104. If all you high levels feel me out there, sign this please. :mrgreen:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, this is not a rant, just a dicussion on why low levels come to PC? By the way, no offense low levels We still love your annoying selfs!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Defender~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, at this point its more annoying to hear higher lvls, or lvl 100s who think their the best.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's always combat 100-109 yelling at pure, and usually after that the people dont complain, they just pc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Combat is meaningless somtimes ok, i hate the stuck up lvl 100s who tell a lvl 99 cmb their a noob, even say the 99 has 99 all melee but def and pray. junk like that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some pures are very good actually with 99 range, or strength and help alot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

complaing will do nothing, take my advice, shut up and pc

[Zodiak12]

I'm combat 87 (not great, not terrible) and when I go PC I'm using a d hally and whip (3 attack styles each so doesn't change) or a dds and d scim (4 attack styles) and with either set with just the specs on the dds/d hally I get my 50 zeal then switch to whip/scim and rune defender to continue to get roughly 100 zeal on portals alone.

 

 

 

Now 4 portals with 250 health (no spinners) is 1000 overall, me doing 100 damage is 10% of all the damage needed to be done in a no spinner game.

 

 

 

Now I can see why a player that could struggle to get 50 zeal on a mid-levelled PC monster is annoying it's just when I get shouted at for being 'green' to a level 100 or so.

[supermonk]

Low levels don't ruin it, people like you do.

 

 

 

Obviously it's just about winning to you, because even though the requirement is 40 combat and they are allowed to be there, you are telling them they shouldn't be there because they aren't helping you win.

 

 

 

Shut up already!

 

 

 

It's the quickest XP in the game with no risk and you make money while you do it.

 

 

 

God speed to those low levels messing it up.

[halosniper]

jesse87

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

funny \

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ya those noobs come there hoping to get free xp from points

[supermonk]

 

jesse87

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

funny \

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ya those noobs come there hoping to get free xp from points

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and I suppose you almighty high levels do something different?

[xarikadox]

I'm level 64. At my last PC game, there was a level 117 leeching more than I was... he got his 50 points and WATCHED the people try to kill the portal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Level is no measure of how effective you are in PC. It's much more based on what you're willing to do. As aforementioned, my combat level is quite low. However, I'm still able to inflict well over 1,000 damage a round through ancient magicks and chinchompas, clearing a path for the people to reach a crowded portal, or distracting spinners, or tearing apart the shifters that gather near the voidknight.

[xarikadox]

It'd be nice if A) they raised the zeal quota or B) set it so you only get zeal from attacking the portal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well I'm gonna go train in the once-popular places which are now deserted because everyone has flooded to PC. Cya :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So basically, no one would ever defend the void knight, and no one would kill spinners. That will DEFINITELY work out well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A damage quota isn't a fair measure of how much you are trying to help your team. At level 64 I typically deal at least a thousand points of damage a game. My level 120 friend does not use ancient magicks, and therefore has a hard time meeting 600 damage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This game is too complex to set a fair gauge of effort that can't be abused.

[homer205]

For experience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You have no right to tell people what to do in the game, get over it.

 

 

 

He's not telling them to leave; hes questioning their being at pest control in terms of efficiency.

 

 

 

You also have to understand that while separate clans for Pest Control may help you get up higher and quicker, it also detracts heavily from the spirit of the game. They try and join up to gain the same benefits that you have -- who gave you or a group of people the right to take that away from them?

 

 

 

Who gave the lower levels the right to take away their chances at winning? If they choose to form a clan why not respect that they are going to go to great lengths to avoid lower levels and play with other lower levels?

 

 

 

I went PC once.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I get my 50 zeal hit portals. As long as i kill them, surely i'm the same as a level 99?

 

 

 

No, your not if that level 99 gets more than 50 zeal points or gets them off of portals if you get yours off monsters.

 

 

 

Is the xp really that good for a level 40? Lets compare the xp between a typical level 40 and level 80. (I am assuming levels 35/75 combat stats for the 40/80 respectively). The level 40 gets 204xp per ticket, the level 80 gets 938 xp per ticket. Bear in mind that the level 40 will get fewer tickets/hour due to their smaller contribution to the game, is it really that good xp? It would take several hours for them to pick up 100 tickets, giving them a whopping 22k xp over several hours. That is really pretty slow. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

 

 

 

I agree totally with this, it sorta defeats most of the lower levels reasoning in going there.

 

 

 

So if your low lvl, and not a pure...Your a moron now? All of you are being pathetic, these people are here for the exp, remember, you were once THAT level.

 

 

 

Fair enough, some nonpure low levels have an average iq. And although we were once that level it doesn't mean we played pest control then.

 

 

 

"leech" EXPs off of the wandering monsters, couldn't those go straight for the knight? They're helping, we all help in our own little way, you just don't notice it.

 

 

 

Well if they are going for the night then they aren't wondering are they? Also on high levels games its quick enough for that to not really matter.

 

 

 

Low levels don't ruin it, people like you do.

 

 

 

Obviously it's just about winning to you, because even though the requirement is 40 combat and they are allowed to be there, you are telling them they shouldn't be there because they aren't helping you win.

 

 

 

Shut up already!

 

 

 

It's the quickest XP in the game with no risk and you make money while you do it.

 

 

 

God speed to those low levels messing it up.

 

 

 

"Ruining" a mini game is individual to each person in what they think ruins it, he's allowed to think whatever he wants to. Why should you attempt to take away his freedom of speech because he disagrees with you, which many people disagree with you on many things judging from all the posts of yours i've seen. And once again, hes not telling them to leave, hes questioning the efficiency of them being there.

 

 

 

no one would kill spinners

 

 

 

People would still kill the spinners due to their making the game harder to win and you don't get the points if you lose regardless of whether you have zeal or not.

 

 

 

EDIT: Oh yeah, i'm 101 combat and i hardly ever use pest control, so most of the people who i've disagreed with here I disagree with so strongly that I posted regardless of the fact it doesn't affect me at all. (The exception being xarikadox, who i just put in there because I didn't know if anybody else would have the same opinion as me on that point)

[Buzz9]

I also hate the low lvl players, last i saw a lvl 57 >.< with green d'hide legs, iron plate, no helmet, black scimi and stuff in PC, he almost died there and he ran away!!! WHY???

 

 

 

I told him to get better armour, he didnt get better armour because he was scared that he dies and lose his stuff. I said that he could not die in here because this is a minigame. He said "I DONT WANT TO LOSE MY ARMOUR WHEN I DIE!!" and i told him again that he couldnt die. After that he logged out! WHY???

 

 

 

Those people should read guides and stuff. They may come. But they need high str or att then, he had like 47 str and 50 att or so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In another world there were only 90+ i loved that. But after a few moments, the NOOB arrived, same armour, same story. I went off to exchange my pest points and i went further with my QUESTS.

 

 

 

I really dislike those players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even i have not the right skills to get in PC.

 

 

 

U need OR 95 cb OR str + att = 160. Im cb 93 and str + att 150.

 

 

 

(and then I see cb 57 with str + att not even 100)

[Bones_Zero]

Because they are worthless little pieces of trash who enjoy ruining other peoples fun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is ridiculous. Do you really think that level 50 impure who's only played RS for a month came to PC just because he knew it would ruin your fun?

[Killerken]

well ok, lvl 40 is definatly to low,

 

 

 

but i started pcing on my pure from like lvl 48 and 60 mage +

 

 

 

ive been pcing there to combat 55 and 82mage!

 

 

 

i know i help in PC, because i damage a portal 100+ everygame.

 

 

 

conclusion : i make pc go faster then loads of lvls 80s and some 90s.

[willysp]

dont batch all low levels in one pot just cuz you have a thing aggainst em....

[Eccentric]

Just be glad you have access to free (heck, you even get paid when you win) exp with no chance of losing any items and no need for food or potions. Is it frustrating when people who don't know how to play don't read the guides before hand or just plain don't contribute? Yes, but that's true of all levels. I know when I tried pest control for the first time I was a nooblet at it, even at level 100 you can still be green and muck things up. Time and experience paired with a little patience on everyone's part can help with that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is it frustrating to lose? Certainly, but if you're feeling frustrated, just look for another world. Don't ruin the game for everyone by taking out your current or past frustrations on other people; it's disrepectful to them and you.