harryp0tt3rules Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 What did you think, my family generally dislikes Bush and what he wants, and this didn't change anything. The thing that I found odd that was he admitted that he wanted to drill for oil in "environmentally sensitive ways", does he really want the environmental groups going after him :? Discuss your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arc_knight Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 honestly america has never faced such a hard-ache as we have with bush in office, i mean, you have to realize its a tremendous pressure on him with all these dilemas that we have nowadays. gas prices, natural resource depletion, war in iraq ( our attempt to make peace, why are people so rude about this? ), hurricanes, etc etc etc. not to mention out of whack senators that want to send 300k soldiers to iraq.. compared to bush only requesting another 20k.. and sayin we would be out of there by next fall. what is wrong with you people complaining about this? and this topic has nothing to do with the state of the union, it has to do with your family's beliefs of bush more than anything else. i think you should see the whole picture, not just the fact he wants to drill oil. -Republican Out- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbellz Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Well, I don't think we should've gone in Iraq in the first place, but you can't leave your back on someone you've been helping, what 4 years now? I guess it was an alright speech. I like how we're going to not be so dependent on fuel, and lower the amount of gasoline by 20% by 2017 I believe Pres. Bush said. Civics homework-- FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I haven't even watched it the past few years, theres no point with that guy. Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Bush is an illegitimate power in America. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikzelf100 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 was there really someone complaining about gas prices :? you must have no idea huwmuch cheaper gas is in america instead of europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLOWSTORM Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Bush is an illegitimate power in America. Aaand yet another "I hate Bush because eveyone says to." How original. Of course, enough people voted for him to become president... twice... He's illegitimate because YOU say so? He cares more about his country than you ever will, as is proved by the fact that you call the product of the majority vote in this country "Illegitimate." I thought that his State of the Union speech was well done, and contained many bipartisian topics. You only really saw hand-sitting on No Child Left Behind and the Iraq war. His Fuel Economy Initiative and strategic oil reserve increase are initiatives that should have bipartisian support. He had excellent choices for honorees, as well imo. When you are learning, you are growing. If you stop learning, you stop growing. If you stop growing, you die. Train hard, eat fried chicken, and take a one-a-day. (And cook that broccoli 'til it's yella and pour cheese all over it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron1120 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Well now the gas prices are going up again. The US is trying to now DOUBLE the size of it's oil reserve. I think that is unnecessary. Bush is worried, I think, about what he hs done. We are making an oil reserve because Bush thinks that other countries are going to cut-off the oil supply to us. < | Runehead | Learning Java Programming, Please PM Me Tips | Signature by Loaf2000 | > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Bush is an illegitimate power in America. Aaand yet another "I hate Bush because eveyone says to." How original. Of course, enough people voted for him to become president... twice... He's illegitimate because YOU say so? He cares more about his country than you ever will, as is proved by the fact that you call the product of the majority vote in this country "Illegitimate." No, Gore got the most votes overall in the 2000 election. American runs on democracy, therefore seeing as Gore won the most votes it's reasonable to assume he should have been president. For this, thousands of people threw eggs at Bush on his way to the whitehouse. Leading to the traditional drive to be sped up just to get away. The loss in Florida was down to many things such as media representation (by his cousin who was running the cover for fox) and the disenfranchising of thousands of african americans who when they complained to the senate, none of the senators would sign the protest. Since he didn't win the democratic election, as proved in a recount after the initial election infront of the sentate, it's fairly obvious to say he started his poltical reign as an illegitimate power, and is ending his reign with a war against Iraq, tearing the country into civil war as three groups fight over the land where the oil is. Kudos to Bush. Diagram From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... da_results With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo_killer6 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Ive got a pretty good feelign that Bush didnt even right the speech. He probably just gave it to his secretary to right. Every year he talks about all his "great" plans yet none of them ever get done. Even when he tries to help, he still manages to mess up. He's just not fit for the responsibilty of being president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Presidents hardly ever write their speaches elmo_killer6, that's a very well known fact. Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Ive got a pretty good feelign that Bush didnt even right the speech. He probably just gave it to his secretary to right. Every year he talks about all his "great" plans yet none of them ever get done. Even when he tries to help, he still manages to mess up. He's just not fit for the responsibilty of being president. no presidents write their speaches (well, most of the time anyway). Its a commonly known fact. They dont try to hide the fact that no president writes his speaches either. Its not done by the secetary either. Its a hired position that holds alot of respect. Ok, i think we know what the responses are going to be. Bush sucks etc. I agree, he isnt a good president at all. But we dont need to write that 100 times, everyone already knows this and has said it on these fourms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLOWSTORM Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Bush is an illegitimate power in America. Aaand yet another "I hate Bush because eveyone says to." How original. Of course, enough people voted for him to become president... twice... He's illegitimate because YOU say so? He cares more about his country than you ever will, as is proved by the fact that you call the product of the majority vote in this country "Illegitimate." No, Gore got the most votes overall in the 2000 election. American runs on democracy, therefore seeing as Gore won the most votes it's reasonable to assume he should have been president. For this, thousands of people threw eggs at Bush on his way to the whitehouse. Leading to the traditional drive to be sped up just to get away. The loss in Florida was down to many things such as media representation (by his cousin who was running the cover for fox) and the disenfranchising of thousands of african americans who when they complained to the senate, none of the senators would sign the protest. Since he didn't win the democratic election, as proved in a recount after the initial election infront of the sentate, it's fairly obvious to say he started his poltical reign as an illegitimate power, and is ending his reign with a war against Iraq, tearing the country into civil war as three groups fight over the land where the oil is. Kudos to Bush. Diagram From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... da_results Actually, America does not run on democracy. It is "A Democracy in a Republic," as you may recall from the Preamble to the Constitution. Overall vote is not the set guideline for election. Most electoral votes is. The people who threw eggs were disrespecting our nation, as the President of the United States is a symbol of our nation, just as much as our flag and the Declaration of Independence. He had better media coverage. You mean the heavily Democratic influenced CNN got beaten by the heavily Republican Fox? :shock: Is there supposed to be something wrong with that? The supposed "disenfranchising of thousands of African Americans" was just a bunch of hooey. Both Republican and Democrat members of the Senate realized this. Why can't you? President Bush was granted legitimacy by the Supreme court, and by the American people. It seems that every "recount" came up with a different answer after the fact, but the fact remains that the proper LEGITIMATE channels (not the New York Times, where your bar graph came from) allowed him to be sworn in as our 43rd president. These are all matters of history. If you were to ask my opinion on the war, though, I would have to tell you that war with Iraq has been coming for a while, and I think it takes a very honorable man , and a legion of other honorable men to keep going when they need to keep going. When you are learning, you are growing. If you stop learning, you stop growing. If you stop growing, you die. Train hard, eat fried chicken, and take a one-a-day. (And cook that broccoli 'til it's yella and pour cheese all over it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 He said, as close as he could get to, what people wanted to hear. Wouldn't surprise me if his approval rating went up from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The supposed "disenfranchising of thousands of African Americans" was just a bunch of hooey. Both Republican and Democrat members of the Senate realized this. Why can't you? The recount was refused and Bush and his team saw to it that the recount never officialy happened for Florida. Thats why the media did it. They found Gore won by 662 votes, and Gore would have won Florida and taken the 25 electorial points, therefore becoming the president. As for the disenfranchised americans, votes with small marks on them and punching your ballot card twice, when it clearly shows your choice where rejected. Gadsden County in Florida which contains the higher percentage of black people had a higher spoil rate. Many voters wrote in 'Al Gore' - these votes where rejected as 'Al' counted as a stray mark.The recount for Florida was stopped by Harris who was a Bush supporter, and she did everything she could to stop it. These are all matters of history. If you were to ask my opinion on the war, though, I would have to tell you that war with Iraq has been coming for a while, and I think it takes a very honorable man , and a legion of other honorable men to keep going when they need to keep going. They didn't need to go in the first place, Tony Blair could face a criminal war charge. Bush has entered Iraq - overthrown the only power that was keeping the Sunni's Shiites and Kurds from killing one another. Yes he was doing this in an illegal way, but is seemed Bush didn't even know of the situation in Iraq. Now the only solution is dividing the country into three sectors. However each group wants the prosperous oil region. They will fight and fight for it. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Actually, America does not run on democracy. It is "A Democracy in a Republic," as you may recall from the Preamble to the Constitution. Actually, it's nether, it's a plutocracy. What I found funny in the speach was after he talked about his plans and giving it a shot, he said something about respecting all the troops. So therefore, even the democrats were forced to clap, including Madame Speaker. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The recount was refused and Bush and his team saw to it that the recount never officialy happened for Florida. Thats why the media did it. They found Gore won by 662 votes, and Gore would have won Florida and taken the 25 electorial points, therefore becoming the president. The electoral votes are granted from the electoral college. The peoples' vote carries absolutely no weight. A recount wouldnt have effected the outcome, since electoral votes are never miscounted (there are only a mere 538 electoral votes, and only 270 to win). If you dont believe me, watch the next election on tv in 2008. Itll show the electoral votes increasing as they are put in. They are even counted as the voting occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangeresque Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 was there really someone complaining about gas prices :? you must have no idea huwmuch cheaper gas is in america instead of europe THis is true, americans should be greatful for the prices of oil now...all of the european countries have tremendous gas prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 was there really someone complaining about gas prices :? you must have no idea huwmuch cheaper gas is in america instead of europe THis is true, americans should be greatful for the prices of oil now...all of the european countries have tremendous gas prices Punishment for the British oppressing so many people, America included, in the past. :P But seriously, I wish they'd shut up about oil and start talking about hydrogen. The technology is there and they're not using it at all. The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Bush is not an oppressor, geez you sensationalists. I voted for him in 2000 and 2004, but I am starting to regret it. Not for what he has done, but what he hasn't. However, I will crap bricks if the next President (Republican or Democrat) does not do what he calls for in the State of the Union. Get us the heck away from oil. PLEASE. Federal funding for clean-fuels research would be nice too. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 was there really someone complaining about gas prices :? you must have no idea huwmuch cheaper gas is in america instead of europe THis is true, americans should be greatful for the prices of oil now...all of the european countries have tremendous gas prices Punishment for the British oppressing so many people, America included, in the past. :P But seriously, I wish they'd shut up about oil and start talking about hydrogen. The technology is there and they're not using it at all. And we have the money? And even so, who will be able to afford hydrogen cars? Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoteman Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 was there really someone complaining about gas prices :? you must have no idea huwmuch cheaper gas is in america instead of europe THis is true, americans should be greatful for the prices of oil now...all of the european countries have tremendous gas prices Punishment for the British oppressing so many people, America included, in the past. :P But seriously, I wish they'd shut up about oil and start talking about hydrogen. The technology is there and they're not using it at all. The reason we're not talking about hydrogen is because the oil companies buy out all the new technology so it doesn't get developed, because they want the money from their oil. :roll: "A disbelief in magic can force some poor souls into believing in authority and business" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Ahaha, what a screwed up world we live in. The oil compaines have a monopoly on future energy efficiant ideas. Save me. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Ahaha, what a screwed up world we live in. The oil compaines have a monopoly on future energy efficiant ideas. Save me. We should be lobbying to stop those monopolies. Texas will profit from clean-energy. As our own oil reserves die out after the embargo on foreign oil, we will recieve massive amounts of natural gas from the wells. Natural Gas = Propane for clean-burning fuels. 85% of all construction equipment and 95% of all ranch/farming vehicles in Texas run off of Propane. When it goes commercial nationwide, we will be RICH. There: Oil companies profiting from clean energy. Amazing. I'd love it, since my family owns a few wells. Since they are old, we get lots of gas and have very little places to sell it for a good cost. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kido14 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I haven't even watched it the past few years, theres no point with that guy. Wow. I don't even know what to say to that. Thanks for that intelligent and helpful post. As for these "monpolies on future energy efficient ideas," do you guys know this for a fact? And if it's common knowledge, then why isn't somthing being done about it? Monopolies aren't allowed are they? Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/Aaronm14/MY FAVORITE BAND:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=64310717And the bible is the big book of lies, call me a racist if you must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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