Does America need a 1 child act?

[Viktorkrum77]

I'm not sure about the situation in America, but in Europe we kinda need a system the other way around, forcing people to have more kids, like in the marriage thread. Not that I care much for being turned into a breeding mare, mind you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We have a reverse population pyramid in my country and the western part of Europe. More and more older people and less and less younger ones to support them. It looks like it's going to be a real problem, us 20 year olds are being scared into saving for our older days already, whereas my grandparents and parents enjoy(ed) goverment-payed pensions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The problem: there was a population boost with the baby boom versus high educated people nowadays, who choose a career above kids/family.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS Don't mind my poorly constructed sentences, it's high time I went to bed, so I can't be bothered to write properly :oops:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, Europe's population went from something like 700.4 to 700.2 in the past few years, and is still going down at a steady rate.

[No_OnE]

Honestly, I see no point in a child limit. It seems stupid. China has an immense population but even then, a child limit just seems wrong. Although it may sound stupid to some, I just see something wrong in limiting the amount of children one can have. Also, I was the fourth child in my family and if this limit just happened to be put into effect before I was born, I just wouldn't have been born. I don't think I like that idea very much. It could go the other way too, though. Many people are the oldest and as much as their younger siblings may annoy them, I'm sure most don't really wish they would've never been born. I think a child limit would go against the freedom that America has to offer. Then again, this is just my opinion.

[Kwisatz]

How about bush starts caring about the children ( I am 1, Im 10 years old)

 

 

 

and starts giving schools and parents with children better funding and if he needs money raise the tabbocheo tax! (I know bad speling)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i kno liek bush is teh sux i mean he r teh in iraq n we r all diein n ts all bushs fault tat i r fail mi classes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jesus H. Christ, you're disillusioned. One thing to keep in mind is that George W. Bush is a single man, and no matter how much willpower he has he can't get past the fact that everything must be ratified by Congress as well as the House. Any budget changes and the fiscal budget are not dictated solely by him. Additionally, local municipalities have more dictation over what funds are diverted where than the President does - they only receive a small amount of federal aid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Before you go on an anti-Bush tirade, figure things out. It's not as simple as "o cigrets r bad raise teh tax lol."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally, I'm going to be moving to Finland or somewhere like that to avoid the impending nuclear war between a self-aware Google and a swollen government-controlling Microsoft. I'm not going to have kids though, they're a pain in the butt and I don't think I could live with myself if I messed them up. It was only a while ago that I realized that my parents have zero experience raising children, which is why my dad expects me to balance his business checkbook :roll:

[Viktorkrum77]

Personally, I'm going to be moving to Finland or somewhere like that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, Finland is a very nice country to live in. It currently holds the title for:

 

 

 

-Most technologically advanced

 

 

 

-Healthiest

 

 

 

-One of the highest life expectancies next to Sweden

 

 

 

-One of the best countries to live in according to the UN

 

 

 

-Has one of the highest media freedoms

 

 

 

-Has one of the best democracies where you don't have to be rich to be President

 

 

 

-Has very good connections with the EU considering it's Prime Minister was once the EU's President

 

 

 

-Etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree, I'm so moving there!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I Finland, that's why I put the Finnish flag in the most important area in my room.

[Rebdragon]

 

No. We don't. Besides, if we only had one child, would that not decrease our population drastically?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, I am in support of two plans

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. You have to pay a certain amount to have a child, or prove you have a stable job or something. I am not sure about the details, but I am sure we could think of something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. You have to take a test to have a kid. If you fail...you can have...a dog. IF you fail miserably...you can have a turtle?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about a 2 child limit? And that's your 2000th post.

 

 

 

If anyone has read Ender's game, the idea of letting families have two children with basic priveleges (sp?), and any children after that not getting things such as public education, etc., could be a good idea to not punish people for having 2+ kids, but to make them not want to have more than 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(like sumpta) Pardon my sentences, it's too late for me to be thinking straight >_<.

[crimsonking]

I would rather it be a 2 child act than just 1, having siblings can be annoying, but from what I've heard, being an only child can be pretty bad for a kid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No. We don't. Besides, if we only had one child, would that not decrease our population drastically?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, I am in support of two plans

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. You have to pay a certain amount to have a child, or prove you have a stable job or something. I am not sure about the details, but I am sure we could think of something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. You have to take a test to have a kid. If you fail...you can have...a dog. IF you fail miserably...you can have a turtle?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about a 2 child limit? And that's your 2000th post.

 

 

 

If anyone has read Ender's game, the idea of letting families have two children with basic priveleges (sp?), and any children after that not getting things such as public education, etc., could be a good idea to not punish people for having 2+ kids, but to make them not want to have more than 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(like sumpta) Pardon my sentences, it's too late for me to be thinking straight >_<.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That would be cruel, making one child pay the consequences for their parents mistake, it wouldn't be able to help being born last.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the government wants to control the population of the US maybe it should think of putting in some REAL border controls, cause the way they have been doing things with the southern border(and perhaps even the north) completly sucks. Not that I have a problem with Mexican and Cuban immigrants, but way too many of them sneak across the borders every year.

[Mayjest]

Oh yeah, America really needs some population control, I mean, the countries overflowing! =D> #-o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you have any idea how sparsely populated America is (on average) compared to other countries? One of the simplest ways to do this is to check the price of land. America's land is dirt cheap. The house my Uncle had in New Jersey set him back $500,000 dollars. A house of slightly smaller size in the UK is worth ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã2,000,000 - which he can't afford, so he's renting it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So no, America doesn't need a 1 (or 2) child rule.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And as to the bit about Europe havingan aging population, that is true, and a worry that is not being spoken of enough. I, personally, am hoping to have 3 kids when I grow up, partly because I like kids, but also because that's probably going to be the only way I'll die in dignity. 3 kids can spread the cost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

An example: my Nan is 80, has rapidly spreading dementia and will likely not see 2008. She is currently in a residential/nursing home. If my Dad was an only child, putting her up there, with the care she needs, would financially cripple our family. Despite the student loans, I'd have to pull out of uni (or move to one up north, where it's cheaper), my mother would probably have to go back to the office jobs she hated rather than helping the school she loves, etc. But because my father has 4 siblings, they can spread the cost between them easily and it's barely a burden. In fact, each of them feel guilty that it's so cheap for each of them and continually visit and take her out, spend money on her etc - none of which she would get if her only son was financially crippled just keeping her alive!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another point: The original poster made the comment that reducing the amount of children born would reduce the amount of unwanted children and poor children whose families couldn't support them. If China is anything to go by, this would probably be the opposite of what would happen. Baby girls are abandoned to die on Chinese streets because a girl is married off into someone elses family - meaning there is no one to carry on their family.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While I doubt it would go quite so extreme in America, some advanced techniques (like 'custom-babies', being able to choose the sex of the baby before embryo implantation, and the fact that the sex of the baby can be identified before the legal limit for abortion, and the abortion itself) would probably result in a huge increase of male babies - especially amongst the middle and upper classes. In the poor classes, you might see female babies being abandoned in hospitals while the parents keep trying for a boy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Abortion would also skyrocket. Despite being pro-life I would not ban abortion ever, but it should be reduced. It should be the last possible resort advice given to the mother. American abortion rates need to go down - everyone, pro choice and pro life agrees that a high abortion rate is not the sign of a healthy society. One would hardly call the Chinese society healthy either.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I'm not entirely sure how Bush came into, but if anyone wants an explanation on how Bush has systematically destroyed the American economy, how his tax cuts give the rich and his friend's business huge profits while making the economy worse (thus resulting in a 'need' for more tax cuts for the rich), and how pulling the troops out of Iraq (as well as sending more in) is the last thing he should be doing (a third way is needed, consisting of a multinational UN force that instead of occupying Iraq, provides security - a fundamental difference), then fee free to PM me. Neoconservatives and Christian's who accuse me of being unchristian are especially welcome, as you probably need the most help :P

[Mercifull]

I think theres some parts of America that need a "no child" act. You should have to perform a basic competance test to see if you are fit to have a child before you are allowed lol.

[How2PK]

Naaah! :

[Kwisatz]

I think theres some parts of America that need a "no child" act. You should have to perform a basic competance test to see if you are fit to have a child before you are allowed lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ha! Absolutely. If we need licenses to drive cars then we should have licenses to bear children - that is, in certain areas, as you said. However unfortunate it is, the more "intelligent" sections of the American population flat-out refuse to do work that is alotted to less educated and well-off workers. That's one big paradox of immigration right there - if you don't want illegal Mexicans in the country, then your steahouse burger is now $20 because you must pay somebody $30,000 a year to wash dishes.

[dangeresque]

It shouldn't happen and it won't happen, there should be know amouunt of children one can have....we have the "freedom" to have as many children as we want

[GordanFreeman]

Of course it won't happen. I would hope that most people in America would believe that something like that was morally wrong...of course, if it did come that there were going to be a 1 or 2 child limit, the people wouldn't have much input on it. But, eh, the government count as people in America too, of course.

 

 

 

Also, what's the point of these political topics? Do you all really think that your opinions matter? Espescially on some forum? It's not like the government will be watching some forum based off of an MMORPG, or any forums for that matter. Eh, I'll just ignore these from now on.

[insane]

 

Personally, I'm going to be moving to Finland or somewhere like that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, Finland is a very nice country to live in. It currently holds the title for:

 

 

 

-Most technologically advanced

 

 

 

-Healthiest

 

 

 

-One of the highest life expectancies next to Sweden

 

 

 

-One of the best countries to live in according to the UN

 

 

 

-Has one of the highest media freedoms

 

 

 

-Has one of the best democracies where you don't have to be rich to be President

 

 

 

-Has very good connections with the EU considering it's Prime Minister was once the EU's President

 

 

 

-Etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree, I'm so moving there!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I Finland, that's why I put the Finnish flag in the most important area in my room.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't forget the massive amounts of mosquitoes :P. If I were to move somewhere other than staying in Canada, it would be Norway. But as it stands, Canada's 1 person/km^2 isn't that large of a population density :P

[Viktorkrum77]

Don't forget the massive amounts of mosquitoes :P. If I were to move somewhere other than staying in Canada, it would be Norway. But as it stands, Canada's 1 person/km^2 isn't that large of a population density :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Norway's up there too, actually, it's usually at the top. :D But to me, Norway seems to be less as advanced and more of a place for someone who really enjoys being outdoors a lot. It seems like they only have one major city, and Oslo isn't really that big. Though you can't complain about the environment, their fjords are strikingly beautiful.

[Celt23]

 

Don't forget the massive amounts of mosquitoes :P. If I were to move somewhere other than staying in Canada, it would be Norway. But as it stands, Canada's 1 person/km^2 isn't that large of a population density :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Norway's up there too, actually, it's usually at the top. :D But to me, Norway seems to be less as advanced and more of a place for someone who really enjoys being outdoors a lot. It seems like they only have one major city, and Oslo isn't really that big. Though you can't complain about the environment, their fjords are strikingly beautiful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AND North Slope Borough, Alaska. There's only about a billion mosquito-infested lakes up there in the summer.

[Viktorkrum77]

 

 

Don't forget the massive amounts of mosquitoes :P. If I were to move somewhere other than staying in Canada, it would be Norway. But as it stands, Canada's 1 person/km^2 isn't that large of a population density :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Norway's up there too, actually, it's usually at the top. :D But to me, Norway seems to be less as advanced and more of a place for someone who really enjoys being outdoors a lot. It seems like they only have one major city, and Oslo isn't really that big. Though you can't complain about the environment, their fjords are strikingly beautiful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AND North Slope Borough, Alaska. There's only about a billion mosquito-infested lakes up there in the summer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's worse in Afrika. There, there's MALARIA. Which is why I'm pro-DDT all the way!

[Celt23]

 

 

 

Don't forget the massive amounts of mosquitoes :P. If I were to move somewhere other than staying in Canada, it would be Norway. But as it stands, Canada's 1 person/km^2 isn't that large of a population density :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Norway's up there too, actually, it's usually at the top. :D But to me, Norway seems to be less as advanced and more of a place for someone who really enjoys being outdoors a lot. It seems like they only have one major city, and Oslo isn't really that big. Though you can't complain about the environment, their fjords are strikingly beautiful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AND North Slope Borough, Alaska. There's only about a billion mosquito-infested lakes up there in the summer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's worse in Afrika. There, there's MALARIA. Which is why I'm pro-DDT all the way!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The mossies will just adapt to it and get resistant to it.

[Viktorkrum77]

The mossies will just adapt to it and get resistant to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nah, that will take 100's of years. A 1000 children die every 30 minutes to Malaria.

[Celt23]

 

The mossies will just adapt to it and get resistant to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nah, that will take 100's of years. A 1000 children die every 30 minutes to Malaria.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would only save lives until the mosies get used to it. It's happened before.

[Viktorkrum77]

 

 

The mossies will just adapt to it and get resistant to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nah, that will take 100's of years. A 1000 children die every 30 minutes to Malaria.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would only save lives until the mosies get used to it. It's happened before.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why can't we stop Malaria with DDT and other products by then. We have to do something, we can't just let all those kids die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We could also always come up with more solutions, they'd have to adapt to each one individually.

[Celt23]

 

 

 

The mossies will just adapt to it and get resistant to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nah, that will take 100's of years. A 1000 children die every 30 minutes to Malaria.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would only save lives until the mosies get used to it. It's happened before.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why can't we stop Malaria with DDT and other products by then. We have to do something, we can't just let all those kids die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We could also always come up with more solutions, they'd have to adapt to each one individually.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good point

[Sk4terpunk90]

As long as this happens after Im long gone. I want to have a big family. I have 1 brother and 2 sisters and would never want it any other way.

[cyco]

We should just have a Old Person Policy. Just kill all the old people that reach the age of 70.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats just my opinion though of course. :-w

[Viktorkrum77]

We should just have a Old Person Policy. Just kill all the old people that reach the age of 70.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats just my opinion though of course. :-w

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Cough*TheGiver*Cough*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:P

[Celt23]

 

We should just have a Old Person Policy. Just kill all the old people that reach the age of 70.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats just my opinion though of course. :-w

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Cough*TheGiver*Cough*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:o :o :o That's a really stupid policy.