Runescape in 5 years?

[Gin_and_Tonic]

Well, i've looked about and i haven't seen a topic about this, so i've decided to post one here, as of course, all ideas are open to debate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This thread is debate what you think Runescape will be like in five years, and is it anything like you imagined five years ago.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally, in five years time i think Runescape will be non-existant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why? To many pures, to many skillers and to many drop-traders have made the game seem alot bigger than it really is. I mean, there may be over 3million registered accounts, but how many people have more than 1 account? ... Alot, i had 4.

 

 

 

Look at the Hunter and Construction highscores. All the good/experienced players have not bothered to level them. Most of the people around my rank have maxed out melee stats, but haven't been on since farming was released. -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lurers and scams have resulted in many players qutting. Drop-traders and low-level pures are ruining the fun for f2p-players... When i started there were a heck lot more players in the f2p worlds than the members world, and now, theres just as many p2p players, just alot less f2ps.

 

 

 

F2p is the foundation for members, and JAGeX have chosen to neglect the updates, resulting in a less of desire to play.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In 5 years time i think the rare market till be out of control. To many drop-trading stakers will be banned for bug-abusing at the duel arena, forcing the price of rares so high, that people will no longer see a point in playing.

 

 

 

The lack of response JAGeX had to lurer and scammers has casued a large concern for players to bother becoming members, as they see no point in paying money to lose.

 

 

 

Higher level players are feeling kicked in the teeth as JAGeX's new updates are making level 99's even easier to come by - Pc, Pyramind Plunder, new Penguin course, so they see little incentive to carry on playing a 'childs game'.

 

 

 

Because of this, it wouldn't surprise me if Runescape slowly slipped into nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Feel free to add, discuss and give out your points of view about what you think will happen to Runescape in five years time.

[Nadril]

I don't think the game could survive another 5 years, maybe another 2 or so years *max*.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The game has been out for quite a while now (isn't it 5 or 6 years? I lost track) and I can't see the game shaping up to be 10 years old and still going.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, there is nothing that says that Jagex won't try and do a 'runescape 3' or some sort, which may be possible if they want the game to survive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, I agree with you on your points.

[Aresgodowar]

first of all im pretty sure the penguin agil course sucks...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

secondof all as long as there are member autos jagex will have a steady cash flow. they ban the accounts and the the auto guys buy more memberships, caus for every 5 bucks they spend on an account they can make 100 or more. eventually they will come out with rs3 but with the catch that all stats will be blanked out, or even non-existant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

one of the things that makes wow popular is that you can fight someone and not loose the items you spent hrs geting. if there is a rs3 this might be the way they go.

[lotrking1010]

personally i think jagex will run the game into the gound but that is my opinion

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

why this will happen is because that with scammers and aouters less and less people will want to play then with less poeple to scam the scamers quit. then ewhat is the point of aouting if no one else plays then there is no one left end of runescape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

aproximate time till self desrution:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if jagex dosent do more about scamers and aouters 1-2 years

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if they do 2-5 years max

[Jake_Corsair]

I agree, that it won't last 5 years. Well, maybe not the "won't last" part. But I can see it not being as popular.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unless Jagex totally revamped the code, there is no way they can really go much further.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not very familiar with Java, but any/all limitations in it will be reflected in game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How high can they actually take weapons and armor, without making the entire game unbalanced?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skills caps, even introducing 1-2 skills a year won't be enough to keep it afloat that long. Starting a new character can only keep players around for so long.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They do mention on their corporate website that they are working on other game(s). So, I think, they are preparing for the next phase, when this starts to slow down a bit.

[state_owned]

more and more people are maxing out.. more autoers are comming to suply the demands of the people that buy fish for 99 cook or logs for 99 fletch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

with the adds like pc there are now over 14000 people with 99 strength...and if you see the skills like rc ..only 160 people got it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its so easy to get your combat up now days with pc..and people stop doing runecraft or other skills.. and things to crash the rare prices and controll the game all break into pieces.. Construction updated crashed the prices of rares very much, but the richest of the richest took the opportunity to buy even more rares and sky rocket the market even more after thing settle a bit, everything they try backfires double on them.

[hatebringer]

I agree, Runescape is a slowly sinking boat, and all the buckets were burned long ago. If jagex doesn't do something big within the next few years, possibly Runescape will no longer be what it is. Either they total revamp the game, come out with RS3, and make it have "Good" graphics, and stop making it so easy to get everything of value in the game, then RS will have fallen into flat line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I still enjoy it, but every day, you can't go through without spotting a rule breaker or a macro, or a noob swearing about not having good stuff. This game has completely become a sort of "you have good stuff, so il complain till i get it" sort of thing. I still enjoy RS, but its slipping.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But heres the thing, in one years time i could get a few 99 skills, and get a patry hat. But why? the only thing RS is about once you max out is getting rich, and once you are, its boring.

[Gin_and_Tonic]

I agree, Runescape is a slowly sinking boat, and all the buckets were burned long ago. If jagex doesn't do something big within the next few years, possibly Runescape will no longer be what it is. Either they total revamp the game, come out with RS3, and make it have "Good" graphics, and stop making it so easy to get everything of value in the game, then RS will have fallen into flat line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I still enjoy it, but every day, you can't go through without spotting a rule breaker or a macro, or a noob swearing about not having good stuff. This game has completely become a sort of "you have good stuff, so il complain till i get it" sort of thing. I still enjoy RS, but its slipping.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But heres the thing, in one years time i could get a few 99 skills, and get a patry hat. But why? the only thing RS is about once you max out is getting rich, and once you are, its boring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Snobby kids cant get things their own way, so they buy gold off the internet.

 

 

 

This demand for gold makes the arrogant players lure/scam items so they can fund the kids 'need'.

 

 

 

The arrogant older people who sell the gold, then go and scam the kids who buy it later on in the game, and then re-sell it to other people...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

JAGeX need to get rid of rares, revamp the graphics and make the game more tactical and quizzing that it is now - People are just getting bored.

 

 

 

I mean, hunter and con were 99'd in about 4 days, a week at the max - Its not really challenging.

[revanlives]

first of all im pretty sure the penguin agil course sucks...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it does never go there!!!

[brave]

I think that RS2 is "dead" already and has been for the last year. I would give it another 2 years at the most before Jagex realises this and bings out a new version (or even another game entirely). The problem, IMO, is that Jagex are slowly making the game too easy just to satisfy the "children" who want everything immediately. Soon it will be "click" .. "click" - Congratulatiosn you are now level 99 in skil X.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If Jagex want to save the game they should go back to the original ideas of the game. The original ideas of the game were to take a character with no skills whatsoever and develop that character, OVER TIME, into a well-rounded and competant character within the RS community. NOT lets see how much money we can make (which seems to be the driving force of most of the more recent players).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO in order to improve the game, and thus increase its lifespan, some drastic measures need to be taken. Some of the things I wouild like to see happen are :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) remove the "rares" from the game - these are not part of the original idea of the game, but were created in error by Jagex.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) remove all the mini-games - these are, in a lot of cases, a quick experiance gain and, to be honest, detract from the role-playing aspect of RS. I cannot think of any other game of this genre that has these type of "in-game" games. If you want to go play these sort of silly mini-games there are plenty out there on the internet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3) restrict trading to buying/selling in in-game shops and buying from player owned shops - this would immediately remove the aspects of the game that cause things like luring and scamming and thus, in the long term make the game more attractive. It would also get rid of beggers, as you would no longer be able to give free stuff and it would make the beggars actually work for a living.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4) increase the number of long hard quests, whilst at the same time making quest rewards better - what I am talking about are quests in the format of Recipe for Disaster. The format of the RFD quest, where you require different skill levels, etc for each part, if expanded would encourage players to "go back to the basics" and start increasing their skills again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5) expand the wilderness - in fact I would even go as far as saying bring back the RSC idea of "wilderness" everywhere, with a few "safe" spots. However, linked to this players should have the ability to choose what items they wish to keep (up to a linit, of course) when they die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6) remove all links between P2P and F2P - in other words common items (eg logs, weapons, armour ect.) in each version are unusable in the other.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7) less updates, but better quality updates - I would rather have 1 quality update a month than weekly updates of dubious quality.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Before you start to flame me, I know some of these are contentious and would, in reality not happen (for various reason), but just consider how much better the game would be if they were implmented. I also realise that some of the suggestions would make the game "harder", but if that detracts a few of the immature "I want everything NOW" players who, in the RS community, really cares (apart from Jagex, who want to make as much money as they can).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RS2 is dead - long live RS3!!!!!!!

[MtNeraka]

I honestly hope they make the graphics MUCH better or else people will lose interest soon. Look how many FREE games are out there with AMAZING graphics compared to runescape? rakion? all those crazy japanese and asain games, I can see it now

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Runescape is shut down in 2010 because of loss of players"

[brave]

I honestly hope they make the graphics MUCH better or else people will lose interest soon. Look how many FREE games are out there with AMAZING graphics compared to runescape? rakion? all those crazy japanese and asain games, I can see it now

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Runescape is shut down in 2010 because of loss of players"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately to "poor" graphics is due to the language that RS is programmed in (Java). Jagex have, IMO, pushed Java to its very limits to give us what we have got today.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree that there are MUCH better games available, but they are written in much more sophisticated programming languages, and in most cases requires the downloading and installing of a massive client (at least 50Mb) on your PC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, Jagex could go down this line, ie use a better programming language and produce downloadable clients, but this would defeat the Gowers' whole ethos. What they wanted to produce was a an on-line game that ANYONE could play irrespective of the technology available to the player. In other words they wanted a game that you can play using ANY internet connection (even 56k dial-up), and ANY PC that supports ANY kind of internet browser (for example I have seen RS played on a386PC using IE4). IMO Jagex have fulfilled this extremely well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, if you want a fancy game that you can play on your super spec PC via a super fast broadband connection that go there, as you are not the target Jagex audience. However, if yoy want a game that is portable and can be played almost anywhere then RS is the game for you.

[monkeyboo2]

first of all im pretty sure the penguin agil course sucks...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

secondof all as long as there are member autos jagex will have a steady cash flow. they ban the accounts and the the auto guys buy more memberships, caus for every 5 bucks they spend on an account they can make 100 or more. eventually they will come out with rs3 but with the catch that all stats will be blanked out, or even non-existant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

one of the things that makes wow popular is that you can fight someone and not loose the items you spent hrs geting. if there is a rs3 this might be the way they go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats one of the thigns i most hate about WoW-no day to day risk. I wouldn't go in the wildy or duel arena or anywhere if i couldnt win or lose. THat would be the thing which ends the game completely before 5 or 2 years or whatever. Runescape 3 i think would work if it was the sme thing better graphics and interface but other than that i woulndnt want dramatic changes in the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runescape will go on for aslong as there are people willing to play it which from nlooks of thing will be more than 5 years-in my case anyway.

[Maddra]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally, in five years time i think Runescape will be non-existant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why? To many pures, to many skillers and to many drop-traders have made the game seem alot bigger than it really is. I mean, there may be over 3million registered accounts, but how many people have more than 1 account? ... Alot, i had 4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think that Runescape will go the way of other games I know - that will only allow one account per IP address - just for that reason.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The game owners of the other games - will allow someone to have multiple accounts - but what they do is run scripts that routinely delete characters from the same IP address if they are in the same area in the same time frame. The oldest character is allowed to remain - but the second one is deleted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As long as the two characters never interact with one another - you can have two - if they do - the script deletes one and the main is sanctioned with loss of items. They even have a script that catches 'friends taking money from one character on an ip - and trading them to the other character on the same ip" - so that the friend that is helping someone cheat - gets caught to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I like it. I dont cheat - so I dont have to worry about being deleted. And if Jagex institutes something like that.. Iit wouldnt bother me a bit.

[Gin_and_Tonic]

^What about drop-trading?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The characters do not interact in theory. They drop the items and log in on the other account.

[maximu160490]

Hmm, Runescape 2 for me has fulfilled what I want it to. It kills time :).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But the graphics are a little outdated. I fully respect Jagex to write a MMORPG in Java, but they need to increase the graphical capabilities. I tried WoW and loved the graphics, but the cost is way too much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO I think that Jagex should release a downlaod and play game. Not too big (100MB max) and get graphics out of this. Put the runesccape world into full 3D would be great.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By having it 100MB it still allows 56kbs speeds to play, but would take out macros because stops the chineese in internet cafes doing gold farming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would play a great game, with RP in it (ROLEPLAYING - is this even in runescape?) good graphics and enjoy it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runescape 2 is coming to the end of the road, it's sad, but it needs to improve otherwise i'll buy an xbox, xbox live and play that...

[Jumpingjack]

In 5 years, I think Runescape will be in it's final stages.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jagex will probably have made a new game with much better features, and ways of combating autos, and most of the player base will move over to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Slowly, the RS servers will empty, leaving behind newcomers who stick around for 10 minutes, some autoers and a small hardcore community whom hold onto dwindling hopes that RS will be rejuvenated. Updates will grind to a halt, the forums will fall into decline, servers will be removed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It'll be a game already half burried in its grave, dug by its own makers, waiting for the last few spades of soil to be piled on top.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rather like RSC is now.

[Omali]

Slowly, the RS servers will empty, leaving behind newcomers who stick around for 10 minutes, some autoers and a small hardcore community whom hold onto dwindling hopes that RS will be rejuvenated. Updates will grind to a halt, the forums will fall into decline, servers will be removed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It'll be a game already half burried in its grave, dug by its own makers, waiting for the last few spades of soil to be piled on top.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rather like RSC is now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It does sound like classic.

[Ginger_Warrior]

Ya know... I would really like to say that RS2 is dying now. But it isn't. Far from it. The RS population increases every single day. When Jagex have that weapon at their disposal, why would they care what we mature members think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally, I think Jagex is at that pivetol point in its development. The baby (RS) has grown, but its grown into a toddler and eaten something it doesn't agree with. Eaten several things actually:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) Pures - Jagex can hide behind the "we're not going to force people to train defence" motto, but it doesn't get rid of the resentment pures face. Pures have effectively taken over the wilderness and made mid-level fighting an impossability. This really angers people, no matter what Jagex's rather lacklustre approch to this issue is...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) Scammers - By this I include people who take advantage of a random (ie. locking a door so an aggresive random kills a player), luring and trade scamming. This problem is so big, you have to wonder if it can be brought under control. And maybe that explains why Jagex have responded so badly to this - where do you begin to solve this problem?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3) Autoers/Macroers - Again, the problem is so big it's out of Jagex's control. At the end of the day, you can't just ban anyone with a bald head who cuts yew trees, so this is a tough one to deal with too. Still, Jagex can do more than they're doing now - their apathetic approach effectively condones this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4) High levels - I think when the Gowers started on this, they didn't want their target market to be people like us (ie intelligent people who can build proper arguments and debates). I think they expected it to be a hit with 13-15 year olds, and everyone else would either find it too hard, or would find it kiddy. They couldn't be further from the truth. Now they find themselves in a bleak situation where 13-15 year olds have grown up a bit and are now demanding high level updates - something which Jagex seems to refuse to do, because they're hell-bent on attracting new players. Giving up hope, this has caused many (arguably, valuable) high levels to just leave.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5) There's probably a lot more... I can think of dozens of just very little gripes with the game itself that really are a turn-off. CS for one, then the music, bugs, graphics etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jagex really has to just take a step back, I feel, and reflect. And perhaps ask themselves the very question this topic is about. Do they honestly think RS2 will be going strong in 5 years time? With these problems - almost certainly not. And, not to discredit Andrew or Paul on making this wonderful game in the first place; but I'm sorry - they're just too big headed to see what's wrong here! We ask for fewer, better updates, and for them to fix the bugs and all the little things that are wrong with RS, and they just chuck back at us a load of updates which sound nice on paper, and they think will shut us up, but just don't satisfy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In answer to your question, no. Not a chance. And I've given up hope with trying to explain this to Jagex. Everytime I do, my thread just gets locked, and if I sent an email, they'd just ban me for mis-use of CS. So I being to ask myself - what's the point? They clearly want to do this alone and want us to act like dummies and go along with it. I refuse to... and many before have done so by voting with their feet. Jagex really do risk EVERYTHING if they don't change their attitudes incredibly fast!

[shadow1854]

This game will easily exist in 5 years.. ive been playing this game for 4 years...it constantly changes.. your acting like its the same thing the whole time..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 years ago i had tons of fun and it a gigantically degraded form of what we have now

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and wow party hats !11 omg omg peopl wont be able to buy them11!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

who cares party hats are stupid.. in 5 years nobody will care about it.. and im tired of people talking about pures ruining the game.. pures are for pking cuz your bored and want some fun..

[Ginger_Warrior]

^ But as I said, people can validate and back up pures all they like. However, that isn't going to stop the increasing number of PKers who have just decided to give up fighting people at their own level because a pure comes along and owns them with ancients.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And you're right, RuneScape is constantly changing, but one just gets the impression that the udates were good back 4 years ago... now they're just dumbed down for Jagex's new target market - kiddies, and they provide no entertainment whatsoever for more higher levels. You can use yourself as an exception to that, but I think that's the general concensus amongst older, more mature, players.

[goldphishies]

Gone....gone....gone....gone....gone....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nobody likes Jagex anymore, RuneScape will either be in the hands of some other company or totally shut down.

[SnWRifleman]

i agree.ruescape is making it less fun for f2p.ppl who play f2p will think runescape is gay.then they will stop.that means less ppl.hackers,scammers,and plain [bleep]s reuined the game.some people worked hard for 100m the what happens?a hacker comes.they lose players.what happns from that?jagex loses cash and will have to shut down.who to blame?those nerds who paid 10.99 for what some hack just to feel rich?And now Jagex is a brittle stem in a tornado.Anything major could totally destroy their economy and force them into bankrubtcy.If anything like the World 111 Falador Masscre happens where someone bugs the game and decides to kill everyone,well lets say its the end of the world of Runescape.Jagex should have taken more thought into the creation of RS2.They should have asked themselves,are we ready?What will we have to sacrifice in order to keep the players happy?So almost none of the great suggestions have been put into action.Jagex has been less lenient with security.Runescape gold for sale on google is easier to find than an apple.Then why do they not close the sites?What have they been doing for us other than updates.No updates for F2P have been made.Soon the F2P world will be destroyed and eventually many of the P2Pers will leave.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

RS in five years? A faint memory. Very faint. So faint that it's barely worth remembering. I can actually believe that RuneScape is not going to survive much longer at the rate it is currently going, and this is how:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. Higher levels have ranted for something like a year or more for updates. Only recently have they received a sticky for them to play in. That eventually was split off into five stickies, and one post in General to discuss high level problems and just lament about the nonsense that high levels have to suffer; the other five making attempts to simplify and hopefully expedite the update process. Unfortunately, the stickies are usually bogged down with nonsensical updates and the "Asterisk Sticky" only makes things worse with people thinking that a horse is a high level update. Lord have mercy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. Pest Control (as much as I hate it) has brought tens of thousands of players to the zenith of the combat parts of RuneScape. There is virtually no point for them to slay since they have high combat stats or their stats are maxed out. There is no point for them to skill since most find skilling quite dull and counterproductive. All that would be left for them to do is to either go into the Wilderness or leave the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. Updates continually cater to the lower end of members. It's very seldom and once in a blue moon that you'll find something that a high level feels like doing more than once. Or, it's even rarer to find something that provides a challenge to the higher leveled skills in either quests or minigames.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. Lack of politeness and/or common sense ingame and when talking with others is not only absent, but is negatively affecting the RuneScape community. Some people just don't know any better, and strangely enough they are the ones that are tormented, either by scammers, lurers or the threat of "hackers".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5. RuneScape Classic (the real RuneScape) is DEAD. I can still wander about there and find a lot of the politeness that I need to while ingame there, but doing things over there is not only impractical, there's no recognition for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well there you have it. Hope you can see my side of things, since I really don't see the situation improving in the next six months.

[HardyZ003]

ffs.. what does jagex care.. they dont give a [cabbage], all they want are money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im F2P and i liek it so far. but i know in a couple of weeks im gonna get [cabbage] bored. cause tehres nothing to do.. theres never any updates for us.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway im not gonna pay $5 a month for runescape.. maybe for Word Of Warcraft but not game... if it was one payment then yes. but every moneth is to much.. in 5 years runescape wont be