Account Age and Privileges (Possible Trade Embargo Solution)

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If you remember, when RS2 was made RSC was ruined by people creating new accounts and macroing the game that was rarely moderated. Jagex then decided to allow no new people to create accounts to play on RSC, even members. This stategy could be adapted by Jagex in this situation, slightly modified, allowing older players to have privilages, such as the ability to play RSC now.

I assume most real world trading accounts last no more than a month, they just create them over and over to gain money.

What if there was a system in place that after 1 month paying for membership your able to trade more than 50,000 difference in price every hour, after 2 months perhaps 100,000 difference in price every hour.. ect ect until 1 year you have no trade restrictions.

This trade privilages would only work if both people in the trade had trade privileges, and if both have different levels of privileges, the member with the lower level would regulate the trade. For example, Zezima who has unlimited trade privilages decides to trade with Lightning (lets say he has had an account with members for 2 months). Even though Zezima has unlimited, they can only trade 100,000 differerence in gold (which is 2 months of membership). If Zezima and Condor85 (in which I had my account for a few years) we would beable to trade freely, as Jagex would be fairly certain we are not real world traders.

If you were to end membership, you wouldn't beable to trade using these privilages, however your account age would still be in place, so once you pay for membership again, you wouldn't have to start off going to 1 month at 50,000 then 2 months at 100,000 ect ect.

This would bring trust back into runescape because if somebody paid for 12 months in order to make a trade and was banned, they would lose their account.

Real world traders wouldn't beable to create year old accounts because stolen credit cards are usually detected in the first month, in which the account would be banned and all the bots that mine/woodcut/fish wouldn't beable to trade more than 3000 gil worth of raw materials to the master account anyway, since they would all be under the trade restrictions.

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This might be a bit of a stretch, but I think it may be a solution that is viable for both Jagex and their customers (us). Let me know what you guys think and leave any comments. Try to find some flaws in my logic and possible remedys to them so we can make this idea as best as possible.

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Seems like the perfect way to end all this maddness, and you can apply that to every spect of price control jages have introduced.

Varying limits to staking, dropping items and pking.

Perhaps....

Hmm, what a brilliant idea. This could actually work. If only those nutheads in Jagex HQ would listen.

This is a very good idea i think!

No, not very good, awesome!

Maybe you could PM them or some topic in suggestions (RSOF).

Total 100% support.

We should be allowed to drop, trade, stake, take items to wild and so on by the privileges.

Oh I know everybody is just looking for any excuse to just get their trading back, so this might seem like a good idea, but if any of you can point out some flaws in my logic and perhaps offer suggestions to fix it that would be super!

oh double post

oh i guess i'll just save this spot, ha ha

Hmm, what a brilliant idea. This could actually work. If only those nutheads in Jagex HQ would listen.

Agreed, it sounds good.

Although it nwould not be as effective as current measures, but it wouldn't be as horribly extreme. I prefer this to recent updates.

Hmmm; getting Jagex to lnisten won't be easy though; not now they're on their high horse and have spent alot of itme and money making this plan.

Maybe they should have consulted their players first?

The intrinsic flaw here is the assumption that players who are high level or who had invested time and money into their characters do not real world trade. There are a number of different types of player who do rwt...but greed and need...are the motivators. An example of need being the Asian person who cannot get a job and greed being the person who hires him and gets most of the cash. (some goldminers are paid with room and board)

If you were to look at any of the popular video sites, you would see that most goldfarmers play the game and their characters outside of the grind of their 9 to 5, because they enjoy the game and because they are less likely to be caught. Being caught means they have to make a new character and some are punished by being withheld pay for being banned.

As an example of an individual, I met a player... level 116... when i first started members. He seemed like a decent person, was an adult and he said he played every minute he wasn't sleeping. I eventually asked how he could afford to do that and he said he made a living rwt on this and 2 other games. I was pretty naive and had to ask what that meant. :oops:

The person was banned soon after and of course had several other accounts from which he probably did the same.

These are just my examples of why this may not be "the" answer.

The intrinsic flaw here is the assumption that players who are high level or who had invested time and money into their characters do not real world trade. There are a number of different types of player who do rwt...but greed and need...are the motivators. An example of need being the Asian person who cannot get a job and greed being the person who hires him and gets most of the cash. (some goldminers are paid with room and board)

 

 

 

If you were to look at any of the popular video sites, you would see that most goldfarmers play the game and their characters outside of the grind of their 9 to 5, because they enjoy the game and because they are less likely to be caught. Being caught means they have to make a new character and some are punished by being withheld pay for being banned.

 

 

 

As an example of an individual, I met a player... level 116... when i first started members. He seemed like a decent person, was an adult and he said he played every minute he wasn't sleeping. I eventually asked how he could afford to do that and he said he made a living rwt on this and 2 other games. I was pretty naive and had to ask what that meant. :oops:

 

The person was banned soon after and of course had several other accounts from which he probably did the same.

 

 

 

These are just my examples of why this may not be "the" answer.

Aye, but I am hoping that this scenario was far back when there were less ways to catch real world trading, I'm assuming that while there will be a few people who sell gold at high levels and with older accounts due to the fact they have so much to lose, and those that have the ability to buy gold will hesitate as their accounts will be a year old or more and they have quite a bit to lose too (their runescape account plus the money they paid on ebay), they will be quickly caught now a days.

Also remember, with the current system, there is no stopping gil farms from simply selling accounts..... this might be a hole they need to plug somehow.

And 100% F2P players that have expended their time in cretaing a level 120+ by just F2P are condemned...?

You think Jagex will change it now?

Of course they won't! We know from past updates just one thing: Jagex are a stubborn bunch of control-freak computer geeks.

P2P is just one thing that would add the trust.

By my understanding:

Blackmark = trust -2

Each month of fair play = trust + 2, P2P + 3

Failing randoms = trust -1

and so on.

From what I see of this idea, I can't find logic holes.

I agree that after a year, you can trade freely, is a good idea. I do agree that it has more holes than their current solution, but it stops ALMOST all the RWT, since once an account gets banned, they have to wait a whole year before they can use any of the gold that account farms.

I suppose they could just stock up a year... so it might not work, but I do see the merits in SOMETHING like this system.

A very good idea =D> nice man

thats a brillant idea, however i dont really like the numbers, perhaps increase the amount u can trade daily. And of course if you get banned/muted, the embargo would be increased, however im thinking like start with 3k for the lvl 3s and then as the days go on add like 5k or so a day, after a month that increases to 10k, 6 months its 20k a day, and after a year its unlimited, you could even make it so that the players who played longer would be able to give stuff the the lower lvls, however because of the embargo they wouldnt beable to trade it off easily, and if they did they would have to like sell it on the exchange. However, i highly think jagex should look into this idea, as it could be the holy grail... however the numbers above might have been a little low.

and i agree with a trust system influencing this, however i think it should be based on a day to day basis, rather then a monthly one. like every "trust point" you get, you are allowed to trade 1k, you get a exponetally increasing numhber, like u start getting a few a day, after you play for a month ur up to beable able to trade 50-100k, another month and its 1m.

And i feel that jagex should have indeed at least taken a poll, jagex carelessly commited resources to fixing a problem, that they knew full well would heavly influence the game, im not saying it was needed, but if we knew it was coming we might be prepared, or at least know he had some hand in doing it (if there was a poll, of how to go about doing it).

Awesome idea on the whole. YET

Jagex will not adopt this. The Dec 10 Update = elimination of over 90% bots (compare: in my city, when I get to RS homepage at 6pm, there used to be 100k player. Now, it is more like 40k. Most woodcut macroers are gone. Legitimate player (incl. me) is able to get some reward from WC)

What does it mean? It means that the RWT problem is solved, and sweetshop goldfarmers now move on to another game that can be macroed instead of Runescape. This save quite a lot of manpower in Jagex HQ. Maybe they can employ less guys / focus on other perspectives of the game.

SO, I'M AFRAID THAT THEY WILL JUST COMPLETELY ABOLISH THE OLD WILD, OLD STAKING SYSTEM AND SO ON, REPLACING IT WITH MANPOWER SAVING ONES

Jagex will not adopt this. The Dec 10 Update = elimination of over 90% bots

Well thats why I'm saying my update will also do the same thing... if the RWT were to ever want to use a bot they would have to pay for a members account for a long long time in order to get the ability to trade (most bot accounts do not last very long, they just make them over and over)

Unfortunatly since all their bot accounts can't trade more than 3k difference as a new f2p character, they are kind of stuck in the mud.

What they could do, however, is make P2P accounts... and let them just sit there for many months.... not using them as bots (so they don't get banned) then start to auto for a few days (then get banned). The real world traders won't do this because they use like 20 or so bots per tree in varrock.

So, lets just assume real world trader Tim, uses 20 bots and wants them to trade. He would end up spending....

20 Bots X 12 months membership X 5 dollars a month = $1200 to Jagex in order to just lose his accounts very quickly. I doubt he will make that money back on Ebay at all.

Plus the people who want to BUY the GP probablly don't have the ability to buy it (since they would be F2P or a new account) or they would be an older account on P2P and just wouldn't want to take the risk of getting banned (which they most likely would).

actully they might if they see it from a finacial perpective... maybe use his system but have it cost like $10 to unlock right away (so they dont have to wiat a year)... if thiers bots doing this... then.... say theres 100k bots... they have to pay $10 to allow them to unlock the account each... thats $1M for jagex... , and say that unlock only works for 1m (until you get the account for a year), thats another $12M for jagex, if all the bots pay the money, then after a year they wouldnt need to pay.

IM not saying this to encourage jagex to charge us more money, just use it as a deturent... after all they all ready detured them... now allow the regular players some lee-way, as they shouldnt be getting punished for what other people did, im sure the majority of actual players are not bot holders, while keeping the real life traders at bay.

And 100% F2P players that have expended their time in cretaing a level 120+ by just F2P are condemned...?

Pretty much since jagex gives a damn about f2p. Don't they?

This is an excelent idea! :D The only problem is when you just start, but that shouldn't be too much of a big deal. They just have more incentitive to continue playing

This is a great idea, this should be put in place. Everyone wins

1.We can trade without the 3k limit. Meaning we can help people if they get hacked or giving gifts Etc.

2.Jagex will have more people come back to runescape...giving Jagex money.

This is a great idea and...

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I assume most real world trading accounts last no more than a month, they just create them over and over to gain money.

 

This is not always true. Jagex have stated that they have banned many medium to high level accounts for RWT.

Otherwise, there's some good ideas there.

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