Marijuana?

Well, I do, but that's not what I'm saying. A common argument for weed is that cigs are worse...

 

 

 

They are worse. Just because some people act goofy after smoking that doesn't make it worse than dying from lung cancer.

 

I can definitely foresee the cig companies putting the same crap they use in cigs to make marijuana just as bad. So while it may stop some street crime it'll be just as bad for your heath as cigarettes.

That's where trader Joe's comes in :thumbsup: Organic cannabis ftw.

is there even such a thing as an illegal beer dealer?

 

 

 

During the prohibition (when beer was illegal) there most certainly was underground trading. I can see pot being sold in stores possible, but what I can't believe is that this would mean the end of all street dealers. The only way that would happen is if they didn't have access to the drugs or if customers didn't want to buy anymore (stores selling for cheaper).

It would end street dealers due to zoning violations and taxation problems. Pre-existing government regulations on business would force dealers to jump through the regulatory and bureacratic hoops, so they don't have the government after them or get shut down.

I've got Tourette syndrome, which means I can get a permission slip from the doctor to get me some legal marijuana \

Haven't tried it (yet), cuz my pothead-friends are.. well, they are potheads.

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So you just let your immune system take the course by itself when you're sick?

There's ups and downs with Marijuana (I currently have health class). It IS addicting, although less so than other drugs. It is a softer drug, and doesn't really have physical repercussions on others, whereas drunkenness for example might. Marijuana can work great for medical purposes, as it relieves pain and stress (some states don't allow it, is why I mention). Plus, you can't die from an overdose (people have tried, hehe) However, it does destroy certain responders in your brain, mainly those involved with memory. Loss of focus will lead to injuries w/ heavy machinery, school failure, and eventually you may even have trouble remembering your friends. Also, if you try to quit, withdrawal symptoms include depression and thoughts of suicide for up to a year. And not to mention cancer, which is much more easy to get with MJ than nicotine. Modern marijuana is not your parents weed - numbers have jumped from 5% THC to almost 80%.

What a load of crap. :lol: Especially the last claim...

Average potency of marijuana in 2009 is 9.6% THC[1], a rise from 4%. This is still relatively low when compared to an average of 15-18% THC in the Netherlands' coffee shops.[2, p.176] Potency is irrelevant, though, since users generally adjust their dose based on the potency of the bud.

Still, it's bad for you. If you can rpove to me that marijuana improves your health, I'll chomp on my foot.

This is a weak argument. Many things are "bad for you," from a poor diet (i.e. McDonalds) to a lack of exercise, yet none of these things are illegal or seen as 'taboos' simply because they are bad for you.

As per your request, though, there is a growing amount of evidence to suggest potential health benefits from moderate use of pot. Further research is necessary to be sure, of course.

A rather biased NORML article highlights some of this research, citing a number of credible papers to support its claims.

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I'm assuming you mean non-medicinal drugs ;)

If so, I agree, but tell us WHY you think drugs are bad, don't just be like the schools and say "sri drugs r bad 4u kthxbai."

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I'm assuming you mean non-medicinal drugs ;)

 

 

 

If so, I agree, but tell us WHY you think drugs are bad, don't just be like the schools and say "sri drugs r bad 4u kthxbai."

lol.

I don't have any problem with marijuana actually, as long as people don't go over the top with using it. which is pretty much my school. I hate my school so much.

Other drugs I think are bad on the basis that they [bleep] you up, and are awful for your health. from what I know of them.

medicinal drugs are fine, so long as they aren't abused.

and medicinal drugs for mental illnesses/disorders, I don't agree with using, unless you have a disorder so bad, that you are a hazard to yourself, and those around you. Most of the time drugs given for mental illnesses are over prescribed, aren't actually needed, and change who you are.

I don't agree with drugs given for minor depression, because I think it'd be better to be slightly depressed than falsely happy, as long as the depression isn't interfering with anything in your life too much.

only drug kids should do is crack. crack is good for you. and meth.

If alcohol is legal then marijuana should be too. We should base legalization on the dangerousness of the drug - alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, cannabis, and maybe even mushrooms and LSD should be legal but cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, meth, etc. should still remain illegal.

 

Yeah, why not add one more thing that can legally kill you?

 

If you're talking about cannabis, there's almost no way to die as a direct result of using it. I think it's something like 4 kilo's of marijuana is a fatal dosage, and if you can smoke/ingest/whatever that much then I'd be surprised. Not sure if that's right though I found it on a site a while ago and I have no idea what site it was so who knows.

 

 

 

Anyways, my friend sent me a link to an article a few days ago about marijuana possibly being legalized in California. If I still have it I'll post it.

 

Still, it's bad for you. If you can rpove to me that marijuana improves your health, I'll chomp on my foot.

 

In under 5 minutes, expect to be chomping on your foot.

 

You've gotta be kidding me. I've been forced to sit through 5+ hours of video on something that's secretly good for your physical health?

 

 

 

I don't believe it. I refuse to believe it,

Uum.. Yes? Sorry, but you can't go through your entire life believing everything you hear. But I might as well add to this discussion.

First off, in health class, they teach you that the drug is addicting, when really that is not true at all. Cannabis is not addicting at all. What is addicting is the sensation of getting high. Sorry for the strange comparison, but if you have ever masturbated, I'm sure you know that it is a good feeling. Getting high is also a good feeling. And when you get drawn back to weed, it is for the same reason people are drawn back to masturbating. Now you know.

In health class they also teach you that the drug is "bad" for you. They tell you that it causes cancer, and can lead to death. Although smoking marijuana can eventually lead to an increased chance of cancer, so can eating margarine, and the schools don't go saying "Say no to margarine abuse". As stated earlier in this thread, it is possible to overdose on smoking marijuana, but one would have to smoke 1,500 pounds of marijuana within 15 minutes in order to kill themselves. Aside from the fact that it is impossible to do that, you would die of suffocation before you finished smoking.

Now, onto the belief that it "destroys certain parts of your brain". Your school is flat out lying to you. There have been no studies showing evidence of permanent brain damage due to smoking cannabis. Any short term damage done to the brain is just that. Short term. All test subjects' brains have completely returned to normal within weeks or months of stopping use. The people who act high even when they aren't, if they stopped smoking for a month or two (which they won't) they would act just like all other 'normal' people, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Now you could argue that you lose brain cells when you breathe in smoke, seeing as your brain is being deprived of oxygen. But holding your breath for the same period of time would produce the same results. You could also go bash your head against the wall and lose even more brain cells.

I must also refute the point about the THC jumping to 80%. First off, THC is under 10% in modern weed. Second of all, the tests on weed 40 years ago were not done 40 years ago. They were done about 8 years ago on weed that was 32 years old, meaning the THC levels did not accurately reflect the potency of the weed that was smoked during that time. And as already stated, people adjust their doses according to the potency of the marijuana.

Last point: Withdrawal symptoms. I'm currently "taking a break" from smoking, and have been for the past month. This was after over a year of smoking. The only time I felt drawn back was when I was sitting in my friend's backyard with about 4 people smoking out of a bong and offering me hits. Which I refused. I have had no withdrawal symptoms, what so ever. Thoughts of suicide? Please back that up, because unless the person was already depressed, this appears to be completely made up (by whoever told you this).

Oh, and there are positive benefits people have been screaming about this entire thread. Go read some other responses if you want to learn more. There are plenty here.

Jeeeeeeeezum a lot of replies can be posted whilst you're enduring a day at school. :shock:

Anyways. I started this cos' my nub friend and I, Wongtong, were arguing about it. I say there's no point in it, because it doesn't have a good effect on your health if you abuse it (this does not include it being used for medical reasons) and it may not even make you feel good. I've never tried, obviously, so I don't know exactly what the experience is like. But what the hell, there are tonnes of other ways to "feel good" anyways. xD (lmfao prostitution becky) Kidding! *cough* Anywayyyy, she says "What's the point in anything" and that there's nothing wrong with trying it to feel better and because you can. Okay, but, what if you don't feel better, so you fancy trying it again, and then you COULD (that's could, not will) become addicted aaaaand then you may not realize what bad effects it's having on you.

Let`s just say I`m high right now

:lol: You just had to, right? :lol:

 

 

 

When all else fails, resort to the TIF forums.

 

fight at school or something? :lol:

 

 

 

I think this topic was a bit lame in the way it was posted. She basically said "here's a controversial topic I don't want to give you my opinion so just argue with each other bye."

 

 

 

I have nothing against pot, but don't plan on trying it until I am well into adulthood (same with alcohol) so I can lower my odds of becoming dependent on it. Probably 1/4 kids in my school do it regularly anyway.

Mhmm. She's anti-marijuana and I was defending it. She was losing because her rebuttals are pretty wtf?

example:

"There are other things that can make you feel good."

"Like sex? Okay, so now I'm going to substitute sex for weed."

"Duh that's why prostitutes have sex."

You need to edit your first post Dreamtongirl and provide your own opinion.

(go to the first post and click )

I personally think that as long as you're with friends or people who you are safe with, it's fine, and restrict yourself so that you don't use it daily. I think it's okay to try it a few times in your life :)

Jeeeeeeeezum a lot of replies can be posted whilst you're enduring a day at school.

Of course.. it's a controversial topic ish, what do you expect?

You can always look at it as: Why do we live? To work and then retire? Or do we live to enjoy it? Is there a reason to keep living if you don't enjoy it? If not, and weed makes you happy, why not use it?

and weed makes you happy, why not use it?

Exactly. :lol:

and weed makes you happy, why not use it?

 

Exactly. :lol:

oshi- get out of here jaerkd00d leah will kill you for agreeing that weed makes you happy

and weed makes you happy, why not use it?

 

Exactly. :lol:

 

oshi- get out of here jaerkd00d leah will kill you for agreeing that weed makes you happy

xD damn right. Okaaaay whatever my arguments suck, but I seriously don't see the point in it if it's causing you harm.

"and restrict yourself so that you don't use it daily."

If your brain's mucked up and you're addicted to it then you won't be able to restrict yourself to it.

Why eat anything unhealthy? Its just causing you harm.

Why eat anything unhealthy? Its just causing you harm.

Wow, doesn't this sound familiar Leah? Put down that lolly cake, sprite zero and hot dog.

You'll never look at food and music in the same way ever again.

You'll never look at food and music in the same way ever again.

:lol: Got the munchies?

but I seriously don't see the point in it if it's causing you harm.

Have you ever drank a considerable amount of alcohol in one setting?

All test subjects' brains have completely returned to normal within weeks or months of stopping use.

There is a growing amount of evidence to suggest that heavy cannabis use can have a significant and lasting impact on short-term memory function, even after abstinence from the drug.

[hide=]In a more detailed recent case-control, study Varma et al (1988) tested a range of memory functions in 26 long term heavy cannabis users following 12 weeks of abstinence. Using a locally developed and validated test battery which assessed memory in 10 different domains, they found a selective and significant impairment in short-term

memory, in addition to poor performance on a pencil-tapping test of perceptuo-motor function.

Although a case-control study of 41 cannabis dependent Costa-Rican men showed a consistent but non-significant impairment on several tests of learning and memory (Satz et al, 1976), an 11 year follow-up of 27 of the original sample using a more sensitive test battery found significant impairment of short-term memory following 24 hours abstinence on the selective reminding test of Bushke, and a reduced capacity for sustained attention using the

continuous performance test of Buschbaum (Page et al, 1988).

Strong evidence for a persisting selective impairment of short-term memory following a period of abstinence has recently emerged from an important study of 10 cannabis-dependent North American middle-class adolescents' participants of a community drug treatment programme (Schwarz et al, 1989) [...] tests were administered and repeated following six weeks of abstinence [...] At the outset the performance of the cannabis-dependent group was significantly poorer compared to either control group on the Benton visual retention test and the Wechsler memory scale prose passages. Although the degree of impairment improved with abstinence, cannabis-dependent subjects still had a detectable and significant deficit compared to the control groups after six weeks.[/hide]

Source: Cannabis and Memory Loss - Deahl, 2006

Wow, you know a whole lot about both sides.

I don't even understand how people get it. "Sup, I want some druuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugs."

"K."

Actually I think that's how a few people I know get a whole lotta stuff. A kid in my Spanish class experiments with a new drug every day. He's pretty cool, though.

With the selling of cigarrettes (idk how to spell it lol), in total, cigarrettes are harming more people every day than marijuana is every 2 weeks. This is obvious.

Marijuana really isnt as bad as people think - why is there medical marijuana, not medical tobacco?

The government know for a fact that if they legalise marijuana, the economy will scre up (more).

But it's also for other safety reasons. Someone smoking tobacco wont go tripping while driving will they?

Anyway, it's a yes for me; Seriously, who gives a [cabbage] what people do as long as it isnt harming anyone else?

And the smoke from joints are easy to avoid ;p

Why eat anything unhealthy? Its just causing you harm.

 

Wow, doesn't this sound familiar Leah? Put down that lolly cake, sprite zero and hot dog.

Hey, no fair. You and Pedley stole my hot dog and lolly cake and the sprite zero is sugar free. (crap stuff) -__-

"Have you ever drank a considerable amount of alcohol in one setting?"

No, I haven't.

Have you people head of Salvia by anychance ?