The New Era of RuneScape

After reading this thread about the price of pure ess, I knew the new era of RuneScape began: an era only closely compairable to RSC, in the days before autoers.

In Janurary 2nd Jagex has abolished unbalanced trades, we should all know that. Since then, the millions of goods in the economy were decreasing due to the absence of autoers. Players can only get so much (someone can't mine 50K ess in a week) and that brings the supply down and demand up, increasing prices.

The funny part is though, we've been predicting how the economy would work without autoers ever since they became in existance. Now is the time to see and experiment what will happen, and making matters worse (or better for some) is the Grand Exchange. The time we are heading into can only be remotely compaired to pre-autoer days in RSC, but with a lot more factors: GE, hundreds of new items, more players, less PvP, more demand, bigger marketplace, and the thought that autoers will not collect anything for you.

Now this affects every single one of us. I'll use the Price of Pure Ess thread as my first example: pure ess is increasing in price, and disrupting Runecrafter's humble income of roughly 200gp per rune. This doesn't just affect Runecrafters and mages, but also fletchers with the increasing price of Woodcutting, smithers and crafters with the price of ores and hides, herbalists with supplies, and warriors with the price of food, potions, and armour due to the loss of monster hunting.

Its time to found a new RuneScape, into the unknown. Predictions can't always be right, especially in this age. This era has never happened before in RuneScape history, and even if we may take examples of pre-autoer days, we have a lot more factors now.

"Blah blah, whats your point Nick?"

We've been predicting how the economy would work without autoers ever since they became in existance, now is the time to experience it.

It's very predictable, I don't know what you're going on about :|

They simplified the game for little kids. It's not how it used to be. Now you don't even have to think while playing the game. You can't get ripped off when Jagex controlls the prices. They've made it into a more thoughtless game which it was not in RSC days.

I have to agree, i don't understand what your grabbing at.

It would be interesting to see everyone become more self-sufficient. :-k

The recent price rise in pure ess is NOT because of the exit of autoers. That price rise already came and went weeks ago.

Its possible to get 50k ess a week, if you really no life it and go full bore you can get 10k ess a day.

A change in the economy doesn't mark a new Era.

We still skill, pk(sorta), and quest the same way we did before. Prices do not always affect what we do in runescape. We are not going into a new era, just huge changes in how we'll have to operate in buying/selling.

I understand what you are saying, but what you haven't taken into account is that there have ALWAYS been autoers in RS. Even in the early days of RSC, I remember finding many people automining and fishing with easy macros, auto training combat, etc. Auto-ing is always going to be apart of RS as well as any game. I personally like all of the new updates, minus Bounty Hunter and what has happened in the wilderness, but I think anyone who has been playing RS since the old days of RSC will agree that truly fun PKing died with the birth of RS2. At least that's what my opinion and ALL of my friends from RSC agree with. Prices are rising now because people are afraid of change, and that fear hypes the market causing certain items to rise and others to fall, that's not Jagex's doing (save for some items in GE), that's RS's players freaking out and trying to blame Jagex for trying to improve the game before they give it a fair chance. Not saying that what Jagex has done is perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than probably most of you all could have done yourself. My 2 cents.

I understand what you are saying, but what you haven't taken into account is that there have ALWAYS been autoers in RS. Even in the early days of RSC, I remember finding many people automining and fishing with easy macros, auto training combat, etc. Auto-ing is always going to be apart of RS as well as any game. I personally like all of the new updates, minus Bounty Hunter and what has happened in the wilderness, but I think anyone who has been playing RS since the old days of RSC will agree that truly fun PKing died with the birth of RS2. At least that's what my opinion and ALL of my friends from RSC agree with. Prices are rising now because people are afraid of change, and that fear hypes the market causing certain items to rise and others to fall, that's not Jagex's doing (save for some items in GE), that's RS's players freaking out and trying to blame Jagex for trying to improve the game before they give it a fair chance. Not saying that what Jagex has done is perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than probably most of you all could have done yourself. My 2 cents.

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I understand what you are saying, but what you haven't taken into account is that there have ALWAYS been autoers in RS. Even in the early days of RSC, I remember finding many people automining and fishing with easy macros, auto training combat, etc. Auto-ing is always going to be apart of RS as well as any game. I personally like all of the new updates, minus Bounty Hunter and what has happened in the wilderness, but I think anyone who has been playing RS since the old days of RSC will agree that truly fun PKing died with the birth of RS2. At least that's what my opinion and ALL of my friends from RSC agree with. Prices are rising now because people are afraid of change, and that fear hypes the market causing certain items to rise and others to fall, that's not Jagex's doing (save for some items in GE), that's RS's players freaking out and trying to blame Jagex for trying to improve the game before they give it a fair chance. Not saying that what Jagex has done is perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than probably most of you all could have done yourself. My 2 cents.

If there always was autoers, then please ignore that part of my post.

Its still a new age, that it's closest comparsion is RSC but still very far off.

I was just saying the new era's economy, Stakedog, with all the other things of course (Bounty Hunter, Unbalanced trades) but thought I would be too repitive of the other threads if I posted that in my thread. It still applies though.

While it might not be the phyiscal leave of the autoers Qeltar, it can be the fear of change as N0fx said, with connects to the exit of autoers. If I'm wrong, then please give me some facts and reason, not simple 1-liners.

I'm just trying to say, for the first time in a long time RuneScape has much less autoers, close to none and that we are playing a different game and thus the economy will change greatly: not into a Buy this high, sell its product low of type.

I understand what you are saying, but what you haven't taken into account is that there have ALWAYS been autoers in RS. Even in the early days of RSC, I remember finding many people automining and fishing with easy macros, auto training combat, etc. Auto-ing is always going to be apart of RS as well as any game. I personally like all of the new updates, minus Bounty Hunter and what has happened in the wilderness, but I think anyone who has been playing RS since the old days of RSC will agree that truly fun PKing died with the birth of RS2. At least that's what my opinion and ALL of my friends from RSC agree with. Prices are rising now because people are afraid of change, and that fear hypes the market causing certain items to rise and others to fall, that's not Jagex's doing (save for some items in GE), that's RS's players freaking out and trying to blame Jagex for trying to improve the game before they give it a fair chance. Not saying that what Jagex has done is perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than probably most of you all could have done yourself. My 2 cents.

 

 

 

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+ 1, very good post ;).

I think you just like using the phrase "A new Era" a bit too much.

We're not in the unpredictable at all, quite the contrary we're in the controlled.

Prices will adjust to what the lack of supply drives them up to and then they will stick there due to the trade handicap until it comes to such a point that it is more profitable than something else by so much that a massive influx of people will go do that skill which will in turn increase supply and lower price due to stand-still demand.

While it might not be the phyiscal leave of the autoers Qeltar, it can be the fear of change as N0fx said, with connects to the exit of autoers. If I'm wrong, then please give me some facts and reason, not simple 1-liners.

 

Sorry, I had just written a couple of long posts on the same issue in another thread and didn't feel like repeating myself.

Simply put, the autoers left in early December. The price of ess already rose from that, then dropped, and now has taken off again. And the reason for this latest surge is probably a bit of the autoers being gone but there are many other reasons, some of which are more important. Here's what I wrote before:

 

Pure essence has dramatically risen due to a combination of factors.

 

 

 

1. PvP has been effectively killed (or at least mortally wounded) so more people are skilling, and RC has a reputation of being "easy money". More demand.

 

 

 

2. Fewer bots = fewer pure ess miners (though normal people are starting to fill that role now.)

 

 

 

3. Speculation over Summoning.

 

 

 

4. The Grand Excrement. Its 5% limits, which were intended to "increase stability", have the side effect of causing overshoots in item prices that cause them to go up for many days in a row and then down for many days in a row. It has affected many items, not just ess. I predicted this weeks ago, and it is just allowing smart merchants to make more $ than they ever could before the GE.

 

 

 

Impossible to say just how high this bubble will go before it pops, but like all bubbles it *will* pop -- at the very latest when Summoning is released (even if there *is* a new rune -- my prediction).

 

Note that saying something is going up in price due to "fear of change" is kinda silly; people tend to *sell* when scared, not buy.

I definately agree that autoers and real world traders suck and need to be removed from the game, but this is not the say to do it. Trading within 3000 gp? Runescape is definately destroying the game with that one right there. That takes out merchanting, which is the best way to make money in the game. It is similar to rsc in that aspect, there wasn't a lot of merching then either, but it is much worse because this time it is padded so that the little babys wont lose an extra 300 gp, its dumbing the game down. I think that if runescape is smart, they will find another way to remove real world traders and let the game be free.

 

We've been predicting how the economy would work without autoers ever since they became in existance, now is the time to experience it.

*dramatic music starts*

=D>

Makes me proud to be a Runescaper. Lol.

But tbh, we need a "Economics" sub forum.

yes its a new era of runescape

people cant make large amounts of money with either no work or knowladge of what there doing.

This whole "play the stock market" form of merchanting is a lot better than the last =). I like this new era. It's better.

While it might not be the phyiscal leave of the autoers Qeltar, it can be the fear of change as N0fx said, with connects to the exit of autoers. If I'm wrong, then please give me some facts and reason, not simple 1-liners.

 

 

Sorry, I had just written a couple of long posts on the same issue in another thread and didn't feel like repeating myself.

 

 

 

Simply put, the autoers left in early December. The price of ess already rose from that, then dropped, and now has taken off again. And the reason for this latest surge is probably a bit of the autoers being gone but there are many other reasons, some of which are more important. Here's what I wrote before:

 

 

Pure essence has dramatically risen due to a combination of factors.

 

 

 

1. PvP has been effectively killed (or at least mortally wounded) so more people are skilling, and RC has a reputation of being "easy money". More demand.

 

 

 

2. Fewer bots = fewer pure ess miners (though normal people are starting to fill that role now.)

 

 

 

3. Speculation over Summoning.

 

 

 

4. The Grand Excrement. Its 5% limits, which were intended to "increase stability", have the side effect of causing overshoots in item prices that cause them to go up for many days in a row and then down for many days in a row. It has affected many items, not just ess. I predicted this weeks ago, and it is just allowing smart merchants to make more $ than they ever could before the GE.

 

 

 

Impossible to say just how high this bubble will go before it pops, but like all bubbles it *will* pop -- at the very latest when Summoning is released (even if there *is* a new rune -- my prediction).

 

 

 

 

Note that saying something is going up in price due to "fear of change" is kinda silly; people tend to *sell* when scared, not buy.

Those are some good reasons, especially the last one (not in quotes). I tend not to stick with the 'autoer-reason', but failed to do so in my post. My apologies.

If you think about it, we now control prices. no more autoers to lower prices, we could rise prices or lower um(in large numbers of RS'ers)

 

In Janurary 2nd Jagex has abolished unbalanced trades, we should all know that. Since then, the millions of goods in the economy were decreasing due to the absence of autoers. Players can only get so much (someone can't mine 50K ess in a week) and that brings the supply down and demand up, increasing prices.

demand is not effected, only supply

 

We've been predicting how the economy would work without autoers ever since they became in existance, now is the time to experience it.

its not a hard prediction, supply goes down, demand remains unchanged, prices go up.

The time we are heading into can only be remotely compaired to pre-autoer days in RSC, but with a lot more factors: GE, hundreds of new items, more players, less PvP, more demand, bigger marketplace, and the thought that autoers will not collect anything for you.

 

the addition of these factors does not change the fact that prices will raise due to decreased supply, they will however effect it independently. the magnitude of the shifts will decide if the price lowers. opening up the GE allowed thousands of players who would normally not bother with selling items to quickly sell without effort, increasing supply of these hard to sell items. this caused the short term effect to be a drastic price drop (items from autoers were still in the game, and more people were selling), however these autoed items will not last forever, and the initial surge of sellers will dry up causing an increase in prices over time.

i've been experiencing it, and they certainly got rares out of the way.

I dont know if these prices have been going up but red spider's eggs and big bones are now around 400 each and the grand exchange sells them instantly, as my F2P brother had found out.

While it might not be the phyiscal leave of the autoers Qeltar, it can be the fear of change as N0fx said, with connects to the exit of autoers. If I'm wrong, then please give me some facts and reason, not simple 1-liners.

 

 

Sorry, I had just written a couple of long posts on the same issue in another thread and didn't feel like repeating myself.

 

 

 

Simply put, the autoers left in early December. The price of ess already rose from that, then dropped, and now has taken off again. And the reason for this latest surge is probably a bit of the autoers being gone but there are many other reasons, some of which are more important. Here's what I wrote before:

 

 

Pure essence has dramatically risen due to a combination of factors.

 

 

 

1. PvP has been effectively killed (or at least mortally wounded) so more people are skilling, and RC has a reputation of being "easy money". More demand.

 

 

 

2. Fewer bots = fewer pure ess miners (though normal people are starting to fill that role now.)

 

 

 

3. Speculation over Summoning.

 

 

 

4. The Grand Excrement. Its 5% limits, which were intended to "increase stability", have the side effect of causing overshoots in item prices that cause them to go up for many days in a row and then down for many days in a row. It has affected many items, not just ess. I predicted this weeks ago, and it is just allowing smart merchants to make more $ than they ever could before the GE.

 

 

 

Impossible to say just how high this bubble will go before it pops, but like all bubbles it *will* pop -- at the very latest when Summoning is released (even if there *is* a new rune -- my prediction).

 

 

 

 

Note that saying something is going up in price due to "fear of change" is kinda silly; people tend to *sell* when scared, not buy.

Thats not all, add 5. We knew runecrafting would be hard without runners in 2008, this made lots of people runecraft before that the 3k limit would come. That changes the price because people start buying pure ess and craft whole day long to be as high as posible before the update comes.

uh oh; profits are being squeezed

i picked a bad year to start rcing

all i know is that no ones going to be making a profit from fletching (unless they gather their own stuff) and no ones going to buy yew longs because now even if you make your own nats, you're still at a loss

yew longs - 710 + pure ess 157ea = uh oh

yew longs - 600 ea + pure ess 157 = 757 (10gp profit? lol)