compfreak847

I was level 117 when I started testing whip, but I didn't get a chance to test it as completely as I would like. Still, I see no reason why it would be inferior at any level.

Pages of text, not forum pages. Many of the posts are far, far longer then a page - several of mine exceeded 20 pages when quotes are included. I took the time and effort to stick with this thread over thousands of pages, hundreds of posts, and months of time. Why should I have to restate my entire argument just because your too lazy to read it? You obviously haven't, as your "argument" has been completely debunked. I'll even provide a link for you to read my posts, you won't get as much in-depth detail from Ydraisel's responses, but you'll at least get an overview: http://forum.tip.it/search.php?keywords=Re%3A+Slayer+Sucks&terms=all&author=compfreak847&fid=66&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=a&st=0&ch=-1&t=0&submit=Search Get back to me when you've read it, and I mean ALL of it. If you can't take the time to read my argument, then don't try to respond against it by repeating what was argued months ago :roll:

No need to spam to try and get yourself banned, come up with something more creative. Find a funny way to piss off the mods or something. Make it into a contest. Just do something classier then spamming :-# arn't u spamming to? Nope, because I'm trying to prevent his spam. You, on the other hand, are simply flaming. For the rest of you who don't get it: Ping isn't an idiot, he's done GWD\CB a lot and he knows how LS works. He's just spamming for as-yet unknown reasons. the reason acording to u is that he wants to get banned Assumed, given his in game comments and current attitudes towards mods, but I'm waiting for him to sign on or come in the CC to confirm. In the mean time, I'm using this thread to contact him.

No need to spam to try and get yourself banned, come up with something more creative. Find a funny way to piss off the mods or something. Make it into a contest. Just do something classier then spamming :-# arn't u spamming to? Nope, because I'm trying to prevent his spam. You, on the other hand, are simply flaming. For the rest of you who don't get it: Ping isn't an idiot, he's done GWD\CB a lot and he knows how LS works. He's just spamming for as-yet unknown reasons.

Whip + defender. 'nuff said. If you want details on my testing methodology, drop me a PM, but take it from my reputation - whip + defender is best. Also, look at my sig to see if I have any bandos experience.

Take a look at the replies, from pages (text) 50-1,800 Gee, that's exciting. Now go back and actually read my thread before responding, just like it says in the first post that you so conveniently read. See you in a few weeks.

Wait, so your argument is that having people make you lose items is fun, and makes RS not boring?

Already adressed in the replies. Casual slaying yields slower XP, but for the purpose of debate, 75k\h (the average for constant attention) was used and also proven inferior. But you could have obtained 160k XP\h elsewhere, and you were wasting your time. Read the replies. Armored zombies give a considerable amount of charms, and summoning is accounted for in XP rates. There's over 2,000 pages dealing with all of the points you brought up. Please read the replies to this thread before posting next time.

And i am too, see previous threads where I spent 17 pages arguing over the definition of a single word. Prepare for a long, drawn-out discussion of the exact parallels and definitions of every word used in any of my or your posts. I like to set things straight, so I'll restate my point and you can tell me exactly what your arguing against so I know where to attack first. Here it is again: This thread should not be moved into debate club, as the original post contained no debate, and indeed, the only 'debate' was clarifying what the experience rates were based on testing. Now that that is settled, there is really no justification for calling this anything other then a rant. Don't apologize, it's been a while since I've had a good difference of personal opinion on this thread. I was getting out of practice \

So the player themself admiting it isn't good enough? How is Jagex supposed to differentiate between a friends joking around (most reports) and an actual trade? Most traders aren't dumb enough to admit it to anyone who would report them, they need more evidence then saying it for serious punishments.

No need to spam to try and get yourself banned, come up with something more creative. Find a funny way to piss off the mods or something. Make it into a contest. Just do something classier then spamming :-#

We were discussing if it should be moved to debate club, and you jumped in saying this thread was a debate - it was not, the thread was a rant that spawned a debate in some of the replies that had already ended. Then read more carefully. I created the thread to counteract slayer, knowing some people would disagree with my XP rates and that I might be called upon to back them up. This I accomplished. Sorry, but the title of this forum isn't "only post if you agree with the OP", as so many have tried to tell me it is #-o

[hide=OT quote] While I'm not 100% on the details, the fact is that the channel advertising deal with Jagex *is* a substantial one, and in these hard economic times when fewer might be likely to find the money for an online game in increasingly tight budgets, the F2P side of RuneScape could become an even bigger earner for Jagex. Sadly, there are Members on the forums who don't read the MMO Industry News, and aren't aware of just how valuable the F2P player is to Jagex, and that's more than likely why Jagex has added forum access given Jagex wants to promote and improve it's free game. Please don't let the short-sightedness of a few disgruntled members, stunt the game, and as a result potentially harm both the growth of F2P and Member games. [/hide] For the record, I'm P2P. Way to completely fail to read the thread before posting. Take a look at these figures: 'Nuff said. Had you read the thread, you would have seen these long ago -.-

There's just no good way to detect account sharing. Saying your selling an account is generally enough to get a blackmark or two and a 3 day mute (been there, seen that), but nothing more.

OK, stop with the spam. Now. Why spam dude?? I really need those answers... :roll: If your really that desperate to get yourself banned again, there's much less obstructive and more creative ways..

What a complete fallacy. Run behind a tree with range prayer on, old time PKers were at least a bit of a challenge, not 'head for the nearest tree' type of annoyance.

Your completely misinterpreting my posts. To clarify, I'll reword it this way: Slayer is not the best combat XP, and armored zombies is more efficient. That's all I'm saying, and that's all the meaning behind this 65 page thread. XP is not subjective, and while I did bring this up simply to debate (as well as try to prove slayer XP better via reverse arguments), the current accepted rates favor zombies over slayer. :| It's so much easier arguing with people who have been with this thread from the beginning. Any other debates simply start at my first post, and I have to try and condense 40 pages or so of arguments between the two of us into a few paragraphs to bring them up to speed. People hate reading :wall: I'm not good with names, I'll work on it :-# That's not what this thread is about. Just because someone disagrees with the OPs opinion doesn't mean it should instantly be moved to debate club, then moved back when the debate is settled #-o

OK, stop with the spam. Now.

You seem to be slightly misinformed about my posts, perhaps you read some other poster's post and mistook it for mine. I shall restate my post for those of you who missed it: I said I didn't like the direction Jagex was taking of giving FTP updates that wouldn't encourage them to upgrade to members, paid for out of paying members pockets. Since that was an opinion, the only thing TIF was against was that PTPers had to pay for FTP, but I conclusively proved, using Jagex financial records, that the advertising revenue associated with FTPers did not nearly cover the server costs, and the only ROI produced was in the form of member subscriptions; thusly any update not moving in that direction was simply donating my cash to free players - a bad business model. It was a single post stated in a mature, non flamey manner and it earned me all sorts of poorly written flaming from the majority of TIF, all of which I countered in an adult manner with the facts, conclusively proving my point and indisputably backing my opinion - hence the win.

There's not much to converse about, if we want RS the way it is we have to stop RWT. Many, many people use credit card payments.

It means that your chance (probability) of receiving (getting, obtaining) loot (monster drops) has improved (increased). The dictionary is your friend :cry:

But it's not, since the so called 'factual argument' was not why this thread was started and is not currently going on; threads arn't moved to the debate forum and back every time someone disagrees with the OP :|

Do you know how many dozens of times this has happened to me? I've lost approx. 84m to disconnects, and another 90m in drops missed due to a bad connection. I've also forgotten about an important job interview and missed out on a great investment. Crap happens to all of us, but we don't all go posting it on a RS related rants forum.

Nope, just supporting my point. But this isn't really an argument, it's just establishing whos numbers are correct - and mine were proven to be.

Glitch to take summons in GE The ice quest glitch, where you could do an emote before stepping out and walk across the ice like normal. I must admit, I used it after I got annoyed with the maze to finish the quest in 5 minutes :oops: Also, shouldn't this be in bugs and suggestions?