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I don't think that's quite right. Some people do actually understand and agree with the motive of their actions. RWTing was going to kill the game many times quicker than simple riots will. Placing a thread in the RSOF stating which update was wrongly introduced, why it was wrong and a better solution to the same problem will get you much further if your reasoning is sound. Unfortunately riots are just repeating that an update was wrongly introduced without a reasoned explanation why, neither a viable better solution, and that's why Jagex takes no notice. It's not constructive. Now, members leaving is a more serious problem, and I'm sure that if more members had left the game because of the anti-RWT update, Jagex would get a re-think of their operations and replacements. It's just that the feedback of BH wasn't negative enough. Sad, I know, but some people enjoy it and sooner or later more pvp minigames will come up to satisfy enough people, uh, hopefully.

He's funny to watch (he has a massive ego) but not enough for me to hate him. I'd have to go with Paris Hilton, I can't stand her above all others.

Things are slowly coming together, but I still can't work the avatar thingy for some reason.

If you look at his total level, it says 1768, but it says that he reached the total 1700 milestone. I got the 1600 total milestone the first time I leveled after the update came out, and I'm well over 1600. Strange way to code it, but at least it never happens twice for the same player.

:lol:

I'm afraid by the nature of chance, there's always people who will get unlucky and lucky streaks, and will then write a thread about how they think they've changed. It's chance, nothing has changed. Besides, why would they need to change them?

Glad to be here. 8-) ... BTW, my fellow Tip.It'er, if you think some dumb hacker/jerk is going to knock me off, then you're beyond sorely mistaken... When it comes to fighting with me, and I have the power to do it somehow, a hacker/jerk will most certainly lose the battle. :ugeek: ~Mr. D. V. Devnull That evil_mumm_ra emoticon didn't really fit there IMO. Lol, they should rename that smiley to evil_mumm_ra. I'm sure he'd be flattered. By the way, the replaced smilies aren't really proper smilies. I know that it's more accurate to give them chins, but it's a tradition thing to keep them round, plus it just looks better.

That's fine, but the time taken to process 3 (let's say blue) partyhats would take at a rate of 30K per 15 minutes, or 120K an hour. 380,000,000 x 3 = 1,140,000,000 coins. That's 9500 hours. I don't think I need to calculate any more to tell you that there's better ways to transfer than this. True, but 120k an hour is a lot. It's like daily income. Plus you don't have to be logged in, so the time is shorter. True it's a looooong time to wait, but the cash keeps flowing in. Think about it. It's like those lotteries "Win $10000 a week FOR LIFE". I do see your point, people would pay to get that daily income, but I figured that that's what would make the option worthwhile, maybe too worthwhile. How about restricting the maximum loot value for Setting 1? Say, a million? Because I think Setting 2 is safe enough for any amount, nobody would want to wait for a year and a month until they can finally get three partyhats, BH would be so much easier than this. Either that, or the entire thing could be restricted to time being logged on.

That's fine, but the time taken to process 3 (let's say blue) partyhats would take at a rate of 30K per 15 minutes, or 120K an hour. 380,000,000 x 3 = 1,140,000,000 coins. That's 9500 hours. I don't think I need to calculate any more to tell you that there's better ways to transfer than this.

Yes! :) The Tip Pic 2008 is not a staff project but I will get it back on the forum with in the week. :) As far as the deadline, December 1st was an approximate date. Odd's are however that the date will be close to that. :o The reason being is that we need time to get it all packaged up with a background and border's and small additions. :) You mean that all of the pictures that were submitted but not applied to the Great Tip Pic were saved? Or will we have to resubmit? Please say they were saved.

*Pokes screen* I did not come here just to get two replies... Please do something... Someone post... :( You can tell I'm so bored right now. Been bored ever since the forum.tip.it sabotage happened. [fit of rage]Someone post![/fit of rage]

Firstly, tip.it isn't a site where we have a single opinion like that (apart from the Code of Conduct). Sure, if some tip.iters feel the need, go ahead. Also, not everybody is against the updates, and people want to play their game in peace. In the most part, people who still have memberships are people who have played after the big update and do not feel that the game has lost too much appeal to be worth playing. You're asking them to act on something which they've already accepted, and we've already said that boycotting only works in large numbers. Also, I'd like to point out that a successful boycott will leave Jagex in a lose-lose situation. 1. They ignore the boycott and go bankrupt. 2. They let in the RWTers and go bankrupt as they can no longer accept credit card payments as the credit card companies no longer trust them. Effectively it would destroy the game and the company. Thankfully, it won't happen.

I don't think it's intentional. Those kind of things happen when old coding goes into new software, and then for some reason it turns letters into alt-codes. Why? I have no idea.

No, it is impossible to de-grade from phpBB3 to phpBB2. No offense, and I hate to be rude after all the acclaimed work that was put into this... but these new forums suck. I've been on other forums like this and I always commented to myself on how much better Tifs was.... I'm never going to get over these 2 1/2 months gone....never. I lost a guide that I spent over 72 hours on...damn Oh man, I feel bad for you. However, I only think that this layout appears to suck is that it's at its bare bones at the moment. One skin, no smilies, most people don't have avatars... You might get your guide back though.

Damn, I was about to facepalm but you beat me.

We know that they've been brilliant and have done a great service to the tip.it community. However, we do want to sort out what needs to be done as well as congratulating those who have worked hard. How they managed to discover the backup file is beyond me.

Riots are pointless and are something to be ignored, no matter how big. The only thing that would make Jagex turn back on a big decision that they are adamant about would be plummeting player numbers. And the thing is that the whole issue of the removal of Wilderness Pking isn't as widely opposed as some people seem to make out. Maybe it's the case that RS PKers, as a sub-culture, only really concern themselves with other PKers, so a PKer would find that everyone of his PKing friends agree with him/her and think that this is something that everybody in the game opposes.

Good to see the topic back up. I don't have time to contribute at the moment, but it's lucky that Google cache saved the day. Copy mumm's post back onto the first post please!

That would be a nice start. As long as we can safely open it to make sure that it is what you say it is, we can retrieve at least some of our skins. What was that wooden style skin called? I want that one back.

Yeah that would make the system more realistic (as in in keeping with what it used to be).

Note: I realise that this forum has undergone a serious rollback, and most threads on this forum are now simply replies for deleted ideas. However, for as long as this continues to be the case, forum.tip.it isn't going to rise back to its former glory unless someone starts making new threads. So here's my contribution. Id like to make a suggestion to improve a subtle but important issue in Runescape: The gravestones. I think that its a great idea to have them in place of the death-pile, and the idea of blessing and repairing them keeps it fairly in keeping with the usual actions of boss monster hunters: i.e. picking up the pile and giving it back to the original owner. However, something has gone amiss: Death is almost always no longer a serious set-back and there are usually minimal consequences. Before the trading update, there was a moral dilemma presented to the person who first finds another players death-pile. On one side was greed: Take the stuff, run away and either sell or use the items for your own benefit. On the other side was charity: Take the stuff, wait for a wandering player asking if someone had picked up a death-pile nearby and give the items back to him/her. However, now, the greed factor is gone because it is impossible to run away with someone elses items. Im not saying this is something which must be reversed; its paramount to prevent RWTers exploiting the system. Instead, charity is allowed free reign and it is now common courtesy to repair or bless gravestones if its further than a few minutes run from Lumbridge. The problem is that the game is suddenly much more likely to be completely forgiving, and although that may sound appealing to the inexperienced player, game developers should know that games without consequences quickly become so easy it starts to border on boring. What I propose is a twist to the existing system: the concept of gravestones remain the same, but the first player other than the gravestones owner (assuming they find it before the owner does) can choose to Loot a gravestone instead of bless/repair it. The 3 most valuable (GE price) items are displayed, and the looter can take those items (The original owner of the grave can still get the rest of his/her items back if they make it in time, but will not be able to recover his/her 3 most valuable items). The looter will not receive the items directly, but they will be sent to the bank. The items will only start to be processed once you have specified which item(s) will be turned into cash and which you will receive in item form at any bank. Setting 1: Cash. Any looted item you have placed on this setting will be put on the GE at mid range price, but you will receive the lower price. This is in a sense identical to coinshare but for a single person. However, you will receive the money gradually. Every 15 minutes, your remainder trade profit balance will be placed in your bank account. So for example, if your trade limit is 3K and you dont trade (outside the GE) at all, 3K will be put straight into your bank account every 15 minutes. If you have over 200 quest points, you will be given 30K every 15 minutes. The sliding scale applies as normal. If you perform trades which give you a profit, the amount given for that 15 minutes is reduced by that profit, but is increased if you make losses. Basically you get the maximum profit through non-GE trades possible, no matter what you do. You dont have to be logged in either to get the cash inflow either. This goes on until you have received the low price value for all of your loot. This method does not restrict trading or any other activity whatsoever; you can make profits for doing nothing, thats the gist of getting lucky and finding a gravestone with good items in it. Setting 2: The item. This method is different and potentially more profitable (getting the full item instead of getting a deducted 5%), but you wont get any cash inflow, just the item itself at the end. The item will be given a counter equal to its mid price. Every 15 minutes your remainder trade profit balance will be deducted from this value, in an identical fashion to Setting 1. Once the counter hits 0, the item is yours. This system does not contradict the idea of balanced trades, the same effect could be brought about by RWTers constantly trading to the upper trade limit. FAQ: 1. How many times can I loot? A. You can only loot a grave if you dont currently have any other loot in the bank. However, once its been converted, you can loot again. 2. Can I choose certain items to keep and certain items to convert into cash? A. Yes, but you must adjust these settings at any bank. 3. Will the items be processed one at a time or at the same time? A. They will be processed one at a time. Items in setting 2 will be randomly selected first to be processed. Then items in Setting 1 will be randomly selected and processed. 4. Cant I make it faster by making a loss while trading all of the time? A. You could, but you will be wasting your money because although the losses will be canceled out, you would just be pointlessly eating into the profit the loot is giving you. 5. How can I prevent someone from looting my/someone else's gravestone? A. You can't stop someone from looting your own gravestone unless you get there first and take the items in time. However, you can protect someone else's gravestone by blessing it. By its previous equivalent, it's like picking up someone else's death-pile in order to stop someone else from getting it and running away with it. The reason why I would like this to happen is that I want RS to become more risky again, having valuable items on you should pose a risk. Also, I want to return the chances of being lucky and finding a death-pile and profiting from it. However, this profit cant be recreated to be instantaneous, as that would defy the law of balanced trades, but gradual profit is better than no profit at all! I am open to suggestions and modifications, as well as constructive criticism.

Hear Hear!

I remember when someone said that they're glad that tip.it, ever since D3N went down, had kept on going without any major issues for several years and they hope that it continues. 2 days later, this happens.

It was an inside job? Can't you sue the backstabber for doing this? What I'm guessing s/he did was delete the backup files for the last few months, because as far as I can tell, most people wouldn't backup such a massive forum that infrequently. I'm guessing that eventually you're going to get the smilies and everything else that gave tip.it character back up eventually then? I can't stand the generic light blue/white colour. EDIT: What happened to my avatar???