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Pc is boring but so is killing the same monster over and over again. Getting any skill to 99 will involve severe amounts of determination regardless of new methods Jagex introduce for gaining XP. I don't disrespect people who PC a lot, but they do piss me off because they know nothing abotu the game, i know a huge amount about this game because i DONT PC, i learnt where all the monsters are, and shortcuts, and raw materials, and everythign else, i have peeps on my friend list with 80 combat, 6 slayer and NO knowledge of the game they are playing. Thats what PC costs people, knowledge.

I smelted 1.5k mith bolts earlier :shock: . Just finished my 'test' by killing a lot of tzharrs, i can hit 19's with mith bolts with emerald tips, i can hit 18's with mith bolts with sapphire tips and 17's with mith bolts plain. I found i hit fairly often on average and took out a tzharr xil in about 15 seconds (somethign ive never doen with the msb), oh and my range lvl is 72, i was unpotted and not praying. Crossbows FTW!

Small point when im rcing i generally dont kill people while they are collecting raw materials (so its not really the same :P), we are all driven by greed in real life and in this game, that doesnt come into it. We craft runes because there is a demand for them and we get good money, pkers pk because they want to make money, same desire, different methods. It is implict that we are all motivated by greed, thats not the contentious point. The argument is that rcpkers are cowardly and dis-honourable, attacking someone who is (virtually)defenceless, i personally don't subscribe to this view, and as i said in my above post i have no problem with them trying to kill me, but at the same time i am annoyed everytime i have to run a 'gauntlet' surrounded by 5+ pkers who seemingly refuse to attack each other, instead focusing on much weaker (but less profitable) targets. Edit:imagine if they made the area around the zammy mage multi-combat :)

Old topic but ill throw my thouhts in anyway. When i rc in the abyss i am wearing full black dhide, a rol, a mith wc axe :), spotted cape, and boots of lightness (i cant remember clearly if thats what they are called but you know what i mean),a teletab, my pouches and of course the ubiquitous Glory, thats like 80k's worth of stuff, which isn't much. I don't mind people trying to kill me (i've havent died yet but ive only crafted about 10k natures so far), but i can't see the point in it, only twice has the pker been clever enough to teleblock me THEN entangle me and in both situations i managed to run away (its lvl 5 wildy). The rc pkers who are wasting their time are ancients and meleers, they will never kill anyone unless the target lags, modern mages can kill you but they probably get 1 kill every hour, which isnt good money really. As someone said (in 2006 :)) crafting natures i can make 3-500k an hour(lvl 54 rcing), so dying once an hour wouldnt be that big a deal (apart from getting pouches back)and most people dont die anywhere near that regularily anyway. Summation: rcpkers are wasting their time, unless their only goal is to kill somone in p2p combat (with a massive advantage i might add).

I didnt know it was an average figure, i thought it was exact, thats the way its written on a few tip sites. I'm not complaining, its just something i wondered about and this post reminded me.

Or a mis-calculation of tip.it. The whole reason we are discussing it. :P But still there is no standardization, some have taken slightly less than 75mins and as i said one took 90mins, i would have expected them to take the same time. (just incase you are talking about a calculator i just use my clock on my desktop to check the time/s)

I've had herbs take longer than 75mins, one took 90 minutes (almost exactly) didnt get diseased and obviously didnt die, i assume its a bug. Edit:I always use super-compost anyway(i didnt know it effected growing time, i thought it just meant it was less likely to get diseased)

I Also blame stupidity, stupid children no longer understand that stealing something from somone isn't the same as earning it, in fact they assume earning it is a waste of time when they were able to steal it quickly and easily, stupidity and greed are to blame. Mostly stupidity. I swear your average 8-12 year old is an absolute cretin (stupider than ants[actually thats unfair as it implies that ants are nearly as stupid as these people which isn't true, ants are a lot smarter]).

I always fight for the rocks, say im wanting to mine gold at the crafting guild (random example) ill go to the guild and if anyones there ill switch worlds, ill keep switching untill the rocks are free. Then i will mine and mine, some chappy arrives and starts mining the rocks i'll ask them to leave politely, then usually explain to them why i want them to leave. Usually they dont leave and call you a noob, at this point i will not leave before them, i will mine every rock they are mining even if there are free rocks at the time. As a couple of people have said it adds some excitement to mining.

Why should i trust your arbritrary opinion based on (well you didnt say) over my own knowledge based on documented evidence? harder to get a job? unemployment figures? last i checked China was very coy with sharing these figures, could you point me to where your source is? btw bad way to wade into an argument " 'insert contrary opinion here', trust me im right. "

Noone's listening to me and they only person who did comes at me with a critique on socialism, i actually am suggesting conventional communism, not that im being in any way serious, all governments are designed to subjugate their people, thats the price we pay for order, hospitals, schools, discos, etc.etc.etc. I don't really want to get into a debate but how is socialism more flawed than capitalism (just some quick bulletpoints would suffice)?

Would be very interesting as the change in gameplay would be immense. No money would mean everyone had to do everything for themselves and the days of mass purchasing of raw materials would be over for a while. I think it would promote comraderie(sp?) because everyones in the same boat. Would hella annoy people with high stats though.

Thats common in China for many,many jobs mostly because there are 1.2 billion people living there and they dont have enough buildings. They don't sleep in the offices they sleep in dormatories in the office building/complex, they have as many aminities as you or me. Watch more documentaries people. Incidentally they don't play/work for 15 hours and sleep for 9, they usually work 9-5 like everyone else.

The problem there is capitalism and its devices. We ALL have to work to live, thats the way it is> Is it fair that some moron is in charge of a multi-billion dollar industry (all American 'moguls')no, but thats the way it is, should we the proleteriate rise and incinerate these decedent pigs?Perhaps in time. Right now though just sit back and enjoy the injustice of a system that is not only fundamentally unfair but that also strives to be more and more unfair every day. If i had a choice id prolly quit life and try somethign else, with less balancing issues :P

If in real life you saw two people calling each other idiots infront of a shop or something would you do anything? No. Leave it. That's not even being nice, its being nice FOR YOUR OWN SAKE, YOU don't like people yelling so YOU want them to stop, YOU comitted a selfish act, not an act of altruistic kindness. Shuh.

Just saw this, China: does 1 baby(female) per family/couple (w/e i dont know the exact details). They are currently building about 100 cities and the biggets migration in the HISTORY OF MANKIND is underway(in China), step aside America theres a new daddy in town :P.

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRgg they are not FORCED to do anything. They ARE NOT physically forced to play the game, they CHOOSE to do a task and their recompense is money. IT IS A JOB. Godamn people are stupid. Stop quoting that they are only payed 7 US dollars or w/e a day that doesn't mean anything, their currency is they Yen(Yuan), not the [bleep]ing Dollar you cretins, its a weaker currency. Oh noes they work 8 horus a day doing a job they hate!? Are you mad, do Americans?Europeans only work 3 hours a day in the puppy dog, candy and toys factory? What Chinese people do suffer from is jack-booted arseholes telling them they must move from their villages to the towns (most of them dont even give a [cabbage] about farming and just want town jobs anyway though)and getting beaten with sticks for refusing. Also the government controlled media lie to them constantly and there is mass corruption (jee thats not too disimilar to....). What does not happen is that some evil men turn up and say you are going to work 150 hours a week in a literal sweatshop and get payed 2cents while being beaten and living in [cabbage] conditions. That does NOT happen. You are flattering these people who are using GUILE to make you feel sympathy for them. [bleep] them, they could get a job as a builder or w/e if they wanted to.

Ok, thanks for the information.

I have my first slayer task of elves and i'm not sure what quests i need to have done to reach them. Could anyone tell me? Also are they a good assignment (nice drops, easy to kill ,near to bank etc..)? Thanks for any help.

1- elvarg is prayable with fire pots, mellee pray and anti fire shield. 2- Since when are P2P pures using pray? They almost never have pray. its that a requierd quest of dt gives level 11 prayer. 3- getting my 50 pray was easy, only spend 1 mil on it so 50 wont be a problem either, and i took the expensive route. And also does it matter if you: spend 5 hours picking flax to get 1 mil and spend it on bones to get the prayer level you want in 1 hour or: collect bones yourself and get it in 6 hours? same time spend, money takes time,xp takes time so its no problem. and since when is it usefull to attack high level beasts if you got level 1 in all combat stats except pray and hitpoints? high level beasts don't go faster... The point again is that you assume everyone is liek you and uses their wealth to make leveling quick, some of us dont, some of us didnt feel like picking thousands of flax, or 'borrowing' money from a friend, or whatever, some of us worked hard for our stats. I'm not telling anyone how to play but what i am saying is that I should not be punished because its easy for someone else to lvl by throwing money at it. If you think that you can get the bones for lvl 50 in 6 hours you obviously have no clue, you can only do things that fast in Rscape if you throw money at it. The arguments are clear, on one side high levels with 10's of millions who want higher requirments so they can feel more Leet and on the other the voices of reason.

If someone asks for 5k and you have 5mil give it to them, if they ask for help try and help them, if they ask for a free dragon weapon tell them to get the hell out of your face. This is not real life, everyone starts out equal, noone NEEDS your help or stuff.

The key point here seems to be that prayer is easy to lvl (buyable) from someone that has never spent a cent on prayer or used a gilded alter or ectofunctus you can suck my balls. Bones-Big Bones-Dragon bones thousands dead, thousands buried, i worked for my prayer. Point the 2nd: for normal training/slayer i use prayer to get a few extra kills at the end when i have liek 10hits left and no health thats not cheap is it.(rhetorical) If prayer lvl for melee protect is raised to 60 then only the rich could get it (not me)i work my balls off to improve my charachter and you are bascially saying my achievements are pathetic. I'd agree to prayer been downgraded if all the monsters were aswell, you see without prayer the game is UNBALANCED. Good job.

You wouldnt be dissapointed with the high lvl monsters if they could heal..(or you couldnt) seriously though they have to be weak(ISH) or people would moan and probably rightly so. Btw i just finished DT this week, the bosses were rock hard for me especially the prayer drain one..maybe because i didnt use a guide :P .

Someone mentioned the Elder Scrolls series as an example of a game with a lot of 'lore' , these games are massive like runescape, and i find it very hard to follow all the history because it all intermingles and all the names mould together (made up but representative examples : florian, flanian, tranioan) it all gets very confusing and tbh if i want a great story ill play an FF game or watch a movie or read a book. The main 'story' (of rscape) revolves around the Gods and i agree that not enough emphasis is placed on this theme, but the very nature of the game basically excludes this sort of thing. The point is you aren't on a plotline, you can do whatever you want without learning a damn thing about the 'story' of the game, its a sand boxish RPG whereas something like WOW is a straight up old school RPG, you're an Elf (or whatever) and you must rid the world of evil (or something), you play that role and thus the game insists that you know what you are fighting and why (history), Rscape gives you a limited version of this through quests but the emphasis is on getting levels more than anything. The game does feel somewhat dysfunctional and there is a definite lack of cohesion when questing but thats the way it is and probably always will be.

The reasons you have been getting such overwhelmingly negative responses: 1)You brought levels into it, dont ever do that because its lame, oooooh you've played the game longer than me OBVIOUSLY your opinion carries more weight than mine. 2)You claimed you were speaking for everyone and had no vested interest yourself, you have now abandoned this line of reasoning and your arguments benefit from it. 3)You are using ONE unrepresentative piece of information to PROVE your point, thats ludicrous and you probably know it is. 4)Most people couldn't care less that you don't like w/e part of the game, its when you take your dislikes and try to make it look like you are being representative of the whole community that people bristle. 5) in this thread 90% (guestimation) of people responding LIKE the update, proving your [wagon] wrong. 6)Ask your avergae Scaper what they want and its something along the lines of : Easy to get rare items- the average scaper is stupid and in no way should Jagex listen to them. Sorry to beat a dead horse and carry this on, but your reasoning is unsound. Actually i would love a new skill and i am almost certain one will be coming this month. I couldnt do the dream mentor quest (update) because i havent done the required quest/s, but i didnt get angry because 1)im not an [wagon] :P 2)Jagex does a very good job of making everyone as happy as can be.