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Yay, letters written by people who understand the English language. Good job on both letters, the first was more interesting and featured better writing, but both are good.

Why is it ruined due to advertisement? The reason i posted it is because a community of this status can help achieve the goal better and is more of an achievement. Advertisement and support is needed to make it a success which I'm sure it will be once the people who don't agree get it out of their system by flaming it and then the serious people who would sacrifice maybe 100k in order to be a building block in something which no one has ever accomplished come forward. I'm not begging, scamming or anything else, I don't need to. I don't need more money I'm very comfortable with what I have but instead of going off for a few months getting a few 99s I would rather attempt to be a success at this. Its ruined because the only two trades so far are un-realistic trades, so its not about trading items of near worth for each other, its about: here have full sara for a rune kite lolz. If your going to do that just ask one of your rich friends for a santa for the sara kite and declare your experiment a success. Edit:beaten to it :evil: Edit2: to expand on that, if you'd exchanged your wooden shield for 5 feathers,and then those 5 feathers for 15 bronze arrows, and then those arrows for 10 normal logs, then those logs for 1000 cash, then that for addy legs etc... it would be a more organic process and less about the whimsy of richer players.

After two steps, Rune full helm - Sara Kite your pretty much done, i don't think anyone except someone with your amount of money will do this, i thought the idea was like the egg game, but apparently its more like millionaires throwing money around, with a drop party at the end.

55 generally :) i don't know why.

Its fairly valid to complain that they have made two places the 'same' by using the models or whatever of buildings in varrock and planted them in seers with new windows, because really if your going to do that just don't bother with the update, it doesn't really matter that its a lot of work, or that they've brought out some very good updates recently, if you are going to do a half-arsed job, don't do the job. Also i feel the only reason Seers got its 'update' was because of the party hosue being relocated, it was a graphical update tagged onto the back of this, whcih means half-arsed job. I'm not too bothered by it but i feel the complaint is more valid than most seen on these forums.

That wouldnt matter in the slightest...then...if anything it would help the person out figuring out yur pass faster. I mean Racecar is racecar backwards, it doesnt matter which direction you say your pass if your dumb enough to have it be apalindrome password. :wink: Racecar is racecar backwards, if only i'd known this earlier... and as for the word palindrome, take your fancy learning elsewheres, we don't need no 3 syllable words in these parts :notalk:

Half the responses display a lack of empathy, i'm almost certain i'd give all the stuff back if someone i'd been talking to died through lag or bad luck or even stupidity. I actually got a nice death pile at the animated armour place in the ...fighters guild(?) in taverly, but i didnt talk to the guy or remember his name.

I think everyone agreeing with prankster king knows that businesses are in it for the profit, its just they feel the game has been targeted at young children and that this has led to the community being immature and or rude (a big thing in an MMORPG). I happen to disagree, given that there is very little evidence that Jagex is targeting younger players, but i've said all i can say on that issue in my previous posts, so i'll leave it here.

I played WOW a month ago, and it strikes me that its not really MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER, to me it could be a console game with two controllers and two players and there wouldnt be much difference. Also its a lot narrower than Runescape in terms of what there is to do, sure there are 18billion quests and 53 trillion weapons, but in the end(2 months) who cares? I play RS because i enjoy playing it, i really dont want to type out why i enjoy it so i wont.

No further proof has been offered after i enquired about it 2-3 pages ago, so i'm ending my involvement in this thread because i'm not going to argue the same points over and over again as its tedious, one more time however: 1 piece of literature does not prove that Jagex is targeting young children, despite qeltars insistance that Jagex are money grubbing bastards who are tryiong to exploit the weak and innocent. Seriously do you work for another MMORPG company? because you sure are spouting a whole lot of bile at Jagex for no apparent reason.

Nice guide. I haven't been back to BA since the first week it was launched when i spent every day there, i OFTEN had to use the horn of glory because my team where inept, but by far my greatest moment(ever in the whole game) was my 2nd queen kill, when i was the only healer (lvl3) and by the end i was literally a jibbering mess from the stress. Good times,i'm going to play BA again....soon and this guide is the reason(for inspiring those memories to resurface). Edit: Also i learnt a few tricks (from guide) that will help me defend, a job i hate but was often forced into because noone else would do it.

One word: COMPREHENSIVE. I do believe you've compiled every single piece of salient information concerning herblore into one place. Astonishing, kudos to you sir/madam. Archive of Wisdom plox.

Jagex contacted the #1 leading publisher of children's books in the world. They contracted with a leading children's book author and worked with her to write the Offical Runescape Guide. They are now marketing the guide to 9-12 year olds and selling it through Scholastic book clubs to that age range and younger. That is conclusive proof that Jagex is marketing the game at pre-teens. ~q I respond with, thats not conclusive, you have offered no more evidence than the originally posted guide for the game many pages back. I asked if you had further proof that Jagex has been targeting young children, you have failed to show me this. Also ONOEZ they contacted an author and publisher and distributor for a book they released, not like i KNEW that IMPLICITLY from the fact that it was released or anything. Also they should of contacted the grittiest crime novelist/publishing company to write/publish the book because that would fit the tone of the game. Jagex ARE targeting children, but not pre-teens, some of you seem to have forgotten that untill you are 18 (depending on the country you live in) you are a child. Edit: J K Rowling is a childrens novelist, i would accept her writing my autobiography, and i'm sure she wouldn't turn my life into a disney-esque tale of whimsy.

Are Wyrms and Dragonkin meant to be the same thing? That monster isn't dragonkin unless they took masses of creative license for that advert. I want it to be a half demon-dragon thing that breathes ice for some reason and when you defeat it it lets you ride it out of the cavern. :notalk:

Do you find it annoying that you get 5 times more complaints than compliments, even though the game is updated far more frequently than any other ever? An easy yes there. Do you think (because hell if ill let him away with one answer) theres any reason for this other than people having too much time on their hands and being negative nancies?

Well, that's mature. No, actually, a whole lot of people say it. Those who actually look into the matter rather than reflexively defending Jagex. (Seems to be a lot of the latter around here, though.) I already showed you proof, and you just hand wave it away as "that's no proof at all"? Well sorry but it IS proof. And that guide isn't from 5 years ago, it was published THIS YEAR. Instead of kneejerking like this, why don't you look into the issue? I already have, extensively. Again, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Typical, unfortunately. ~q Please do enlighten me then and show me some CONCLUSIVE proof that Jagex is marketing the game at pre-teens, if you can't then you are a HUGE hypocrite. Seriously don't come back at my arguments with 'yeh there was this 1 guide and you don't know what you're talking about' because thats insulting. Help me out here, i will not accept that Jagex markets the game at young children on the basis of ONE/UN/UNO piece of literature. So if your next post includes more evidence of a trend towards targeting young children and less supposition on your part: like my argument is a knee-jerk defensive reaction in support of Jagex a company 'i have some sort of vested interest in (?)' (i have no problem with you saying you don't liek the game,i am not an employee of Jagex and thus have no interest in defending it, i DO have a problem with you stating things as fact and then not providing convincing evidence that they are indeed fact)then i will be happy to counter/accept your point. Also and this is a tad personal but hey looks like were not going to be friends, why do you end your posts with a q? Your name is right there for all to see. B.

Mainly by claiming that those under 13 are not allowed to set up new accounts while simultaneously marketing the game towards those same children. This makes their "no under 13" claims little more than lip service to appease their lawyers. They are encouraging children to lie in order to sign up for the game. Then there are other areas.. such as claiming parents should be responsible for their kids' gameplay but providing them with virtually no tools to help them do so; saying they greatly value an online presence when J mods are scarcer than hen's teeth; and a lot more. ~q SAYS YOU, with your self-claimed CYNICAL mind. They are no more actively advertising the game at pre teens than at people aged 60-70, show me some proof, other than a picture of a guide from 5 years ago, which has an age description of 7+ (or w/e), because thats no proof at all . I'm sure WOW/Guild wars/any other game ever is this socially responsible and creates 'tools' for parents to monitor their childs activity. SHUH(this means yeh right!!!!!). Seriously its a game with almost no marketing (read NO MARKETING) and yet you are saying its 'TARGETED' at kids, thats not a strong arguing point. The problem i REALLY have with this article is not the content of the article but the responses to it from people like you, making ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims and then going omg the community suxors. [bleep]ing and moaning like 4 year olds about a poor community is the definition of irony, and thats all 99% of the posts on this thread are. I put it to you we have seen the dark side of Runescapes player base on this thread, from the ex-player who 'suddenly realises' the game sucked and can't compare to w/e flash in the pan game they found this month and can't help but tell everyone who plays RS that they are losers and playing a crap game, to the people who play going 'omg haxors, community blows its like Jagex really wants kids to play it r a fact based on how stupid everyone is and young, unlike me who r smart'. Thus endeth the tale.

Some companies put quality and loyalty and honesty ahead of doing everything possible to grub for money -- especially when the owners are millionnaires a hundred times over. I'm too cynical to EXPECT any company to be this way, but it sure is nice on the rare occasions when it does happen. Jagex is violating its own principles by targeting this game to children. ~q How is Jagex violating its own principles? Actually ignore that what in the name of Jeeeeesus are Jagex's 'principles'? I have no idea what you're talking about. To the guy with the riposte to my thing about control, your WOW or Guildwars or w/e example means you have to monitor 2 more things -mind destroyingly complicated...sorry to be rude but c'mon even the most complicated game requiring 12 button combinations and 'monitoring' of 7 things can be mastered in a matter of hours. Humans pwn games. So from a limitations of the human mind aspect(abiltity to keep track of 4 things and press 4 buttons) that argument is crap because that is not harder than monitoring 3 things and pressing one button after having played for a few minutes let alone hours.

Ex-player buddy, not non-player. Get the phrasing right, and then you might see how valuable your post really is. And everyone referencing MEP and maybe one or two other hard quests involving puzzles- sure, some might be difficult, but the vast majority of the game, if not all of what you are not mentioning, is painfully easy and dull [until you get into PvP, bu that's not a measure of how hard to beat the game is, but of how difficult to beat your opponent is]. I mean, I've fallen asleep with my eyes open while DK'ing. This is not a game for the advanced mind, it is a game for the simple one, no matter how the community is shaped. The game design is just so basic, so easy, so... PG, that it would be ludicrous to call this a game for anything past a teenager, and the only reason they're included is because they actually have an attention span, unlike little kids. Oh, and yes, the first time I went into the DK's I didn't even know what the place looked like, didn't even use a guide, and I was perfectly fine- and that was back in the day where the quota was to use rune armor and God Spells. This game isn't hard. Can you really prove that it, as a whole, is? Is Halo 2 hard after you've run through the campaign once? Is Civilization 1/2/3/4 hard once you've played 10 times? Is Baldurs Gate 2 hard? Very few games are hard once you've played for more than a few hours, you learn what to do and when to do it, you become efficient. Cutting trees isn't hard, neither is fishing, nor slayer nor anything else except some of the longer quests. R.S requires lateral thinking and dedication/determination, these are still skills just different ones to for example the skills required to play a FPS such as dexterity and hand-eye co-ordination. RS is very different to any game i've played and its hard to compare it to others, but the main point of a game is to have fun and wether this is done by clicking a yew tree or shooting an alien with an assault rifle doesn't really matter. As for how this pertains to a poor community i don't know. @Prankster King:The most objectional part of the article is the bit about it just being clicking, interesting because clicking is just the control method offered to the player, just like on console games where you press an analogue stick forward or a shoulder button or w/e to make your charachter walk- to me theres not much difference. I would like to understand some things about you as a player of the game you are critiquing(cant think of a better way to say can you answer these questions).Did you enjoy the game when you started playing? If so why, and how long untill you decided you didn't like it? Are there any redeamable features of the game in your opinion? Thanks.

Never met a pmod who was rude or didnt try to help people, so theres two options : 1) i've been lucky, 2) most of those saying yeh pmods dissed me and then stole my phat are lying because they were being noobs and got told off. I'm SURE there are some bad pmods, but i am equally sure that most aren't rude, discourteous cheats.

Everyone whos quit the game agrees the community stinks and the game is unchallenging, everyone who plays the game likes it .........why exactly are the opinions of people who don't play valid? Some of them played the game for 5+ years and sucked ALL the fun out of it they could, in the end they decide they wasted their time and that the game was NEVER fun so they mock the game to validate this feeling. These people are as imature as the people they CLAIM make the game unfun. If people can rile you easily don't play an MMORPG, sure we all get annoyed once in a while, but if your first thought when playing the game is 'i hope no noobs say something stupid' then don't play, you'll save yourself hastle and us from hearing about your complaints. Edit: i found the game on miniclip. Edit2: I LOVE the way people keep using the word unmature, its not a word, the word you are all looking for is immature. Well at least vocabulary has nothing to do with maturity.

Also to echo half a dozen others, they are conducting FREE market research to try and find a way to make f2pers pay to play. Its really quite savvy of them All these polls are are a way of guaging the chances of non members buying membership, many people have told you this, YOU ignore what they write, and then go 'lol members suxor'. You are aggrivating me.

They want all f2pers to sign up for membership, what they don't realise is that most f2pers will NEVER see any worth in paying to play, regardless of new content in p2p. Jagex has said that adverts just pay for the cost of bandwith used by f2pers, untill you lot start clicking a lot more on said adverts you aren't making them any money. The only reason f2p still exists is the hope that some f2pers will start to pay for membership. To echo a half dozen others, they are a business looking to maximise profit or revenue or growth (i don't know what their goal is but it'll be one of those 3). They don't owe you anything for paying nothing to use their bandwith. Also to echo half a dozen others, they are conducting FREE market research to try and find a way to make f2pers pay to play. Its really quite savvy of them.

Randomly spawning uber-dragons that hit whatever your hp lvl is. Submarines. Guns. A lvl 1000 boss monster(unless by that time they've overhauled the combat system).

MMORPG with servers based in several different countries, so no it isn't rated E, T,12,15 or w/e else ratings there are in all those countries, Jagex have made their own rating called you have to be 13 to play this game, they are not beholden to a single countries ratings organisation.