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If you just got rid of the sky this would look like the very startings of an RPG :thumbsup: though yes the quality is very poor and it looks very rushed in all honesty.. If you were looking for something a bit closer to reality I would have considered perspective because without it, things just don't look right.. You've used default colouring also which tends to be very saturated and harsh on the eyes.. I won't say I like this much but for a first this is pretty alright, Just take time with your work if your at all serious about the quality of your work.

Firstly, Welcome back once again m0ther : secondly, I disagree sadly haha, black lines can work well to a certain degree, I wouldn't try convice anyone that coloured lines are a necessity in pixel art cus it just isn't, it doesn't matter how you go about doing anything if that in the end your results are exactly what you intented, I would just add that your lines maybe do look a bit too intruding on your piece, the solution could be to simply change the colour of your linework if you wish, but if you wish to keep your black you could just break through the linework.. This isn't colour by numbers so keeping within the lines isn't essential, in fact it can smoothen up your work and make some details easier to see... Here's a quick example of how I mean, only a slight difference but it does reduce the boldness of the lines.. Its similar to AAing but not as complicated, just colour a pixel or two into your linework.. But yes don't feel obliged to do this if you don't want to, my advice would be to try out what people tell you, see if it helps at all.. At the end of the day you're your own person, but please take it into consideration. My opinions are that you're actually a pretty good pixel artist Y0ur_m0ther, your perspective looks good, characters look nice and your colouring/shading works well, any other advice would be to up the contrast in certain places, like the white areas, add some light blues for shading.. The grass is great but comparing to the characters they kinda look seperated, maybe add some grass stems around her feet? other than that its great, your doin well :thumbsup: .. Oh and fancy borders always look nice :) Finishes of your signatures well.

im gonna make a few pixel christmas avatars soon so be sure to check out the art bazzar in a day or two..

well it looks like you achieved exactly what you wanted, no need to over complicate anything about this, it's just a simple signature.. Anyone who's been bitterly disappointed should step back and realise, he wanted just that.. Being a quality digital artist doesn't mean everything you do has to be big, complicated and full of variation, sometimes just doing something simple is what companies want (If you were to take on any Live projects that is)... You could have been a bit more creative with the layout of this, I personally would have made several versions testing different type-faces, sizes, different borders etc.. But yeah it looks good, :D

sorry im now just adding on to what I said earlier.. You're pallette could do with some additional warmer tones to add within the shading of her face, plus it can add that extra shading level needed because imo my first edit looked too flat still.. With the rest of your pallette you seem to be picking the obvious default colours and altering the lightness and darkness, try not to restrict yourself to such generic colours, experiment with the whole of the pallette. Ok im done, im just trying to give you as much advice as possible, I am sorry if you don't want me to edit your work so severely, Im also constantly learning myself and just can't help it :oops:

..yes but then again he's no expert is he, would you by chance have any advice? Because comparing it to professional work is just absurd, of course he still has a lot to learn, thats the reason why he's posted his work here, for comments and advice. Or am I wrong?

only here to help :

mimicing other artists and copying pieces is a great way to learn styles and get yourself more used to drawing a wider variety of things.. If Pureleader was to copy, copy, copy anime images and then challenged himself to draw his own using references for help and remembering commonalities throughout drawings he's previously drawn then he will become a better anime/manga artist.. But I do agree that you can't simply try and become another artist, you do need to find your own styles and techniques, figure out how anatomy of characters work by studying real people, how shading effects objects.. Etc. But yes this does deserve CC.. When you're drawing cartoons Pureleader don't be so harsh with your linework until your ready to ink up, be as rough as you need to be get all of your proportions right while you still have it light enough to edit, work in some more solid lines were you need to but still don't go too hard.. By inking up I mean going over it in and finalising it, whether it be hard pencil, ink or pen.

well I don't think you should scrap it and start over, otherwise this piece would have just been a waste of time, instead maybe you should learn something from it.. I hope you don't mind that I made a quick edit.. I did get a bit carried away, I started sketching in some eyes (as you were requesting help with em) and decided to AA em to get em lookin smooth.. Then I just said to myself, what the hell.. And I've just editted all I felt needed changing.. I assumed it was a woman so raised the jaw, smoothened off all your linework, added an ear, mouth and hair.. I tried to make the most of your colours to add depth to the face, your original version looks raised off the screen but still flat, I guessing its because you were maybe still going to work on that.. Well please zoom into my version and have a look what I've done. Keep your facial proportions in check also, even for anime.. I worked on the background next, it's always a good idea to add a hilly landscape, it suggests someone more is going on, flat suggests 'boring'.. Add a bush, bring the tree closer so it fills the screen more, instead of adding 'too much'.. I added some water but probably not the best pond in the world.. Also your moon kinda looks puny, and the moon is a good focal point on any night image, make it stronger visually would be my advice. With the grass, try not to do anything to repetative, or harsh on the eyes, its obviously just tiled grass.. Oh and lastly I was thinking, something's still missing.. There needs to be something in the foreground to compliment the face, my idea was for her to have her hand out with like a fairy or something stood on her finger.. But that's just a suggestion. Didn't bother going the whole way with that.. Be more creative with this, it looks great though, my first impressions of this were that it looks as if you could do so much more with it, the positioning was good and I thought it was great seeing something different. Goodluck hope I helped at all.. - Ter

I think he means that it looks as if he has a receding hairline. Proportions are off in places but looks great anyways, get this coloured :)

wow im confused then, anychance anyone could give their opinions to what to do with this, do you want the guy on top? or do we use eckered's update were it's like a battlefield?? Im not bothered either way, I just want this to 1, be complete and 2, to look best it can.. But im not one to decide what happens, its should be a group decision. :-s

2nd, 1st, 4th, 3rd imo pretty darn good.

yeah you've jpegged it :( you've boosted the colour count from 149, to 400+ Make sure it's a png. :shame: If im being honest that ball looks pretty good, the waterfall does too but im thinking that the guy at the top is pretty hard to see, might just be my pc.. #-o In fact it looks like you've brushed in the a lot of your contribution.. it needs to be 100% pixelart :? Im really bored so I made a few slight adjustments based what people have suggested, hope no one minds.. great additions guys, I think this'll be done in time for xmas :D

tryin not to do too much, that's blank because it's free for someone to put somthing there.

awesome, u're definately improving, I guess Jim taught ya a bit before he left :wink: haha, I dnt plan out any of mine, I just wait till the day that we're printin and draw em out quickly n cut em out ready to print.. this is for your 'print-work' right?

wow that looks great pjb :o

cnt add 1,2,3 and 4 cus its all jpeged atm.. im gettin the impression that people are bit reluctant to do anything, so.. I bit the bullet and just started off a few, someone please do something the water, put something in it, add mist from the waterfall? add something on that grassy bit, be creative.. Ive mentioned this before but to make it clear, If you want to claim a tile please say, but if you're clearly not doing anything to it, it will be taken by someone else.. This is a team effort so don't be afraid of working on anywhere you want, nothing's claimed, if it's empty than you're free to work on it. With 1,2,3 and 4 I'll be greatful if someone draw out some linework, no matter how basic and as a group people can work on it, add their own linework etc.. Just please get it done :P

your character doesn't look too feminine as her head is too big, cleaner lines allow you to toggle with the shape more, make her more curvy, Ive used a bit of AA on my edit, don't expect you to do that but it does show by taking more care of each individual pixel you'll get a better result, work on the general anatomy of a woman, simplify it for yourself and take it one step at a time, instead of sketching one out randomly and trying to alter it more and more into a sexy figure.. It'll just look distorted.

yes, thank god, yes xman :D Any spot that hasn't been worked on is up for grabs, as those who claimed them haven't posted anything in aages.. We all just want this completed so 'anyone' can work on this if you have the time spare.

that first link had links to tutorials made by Tip.it members, on tip.it not other websites.. this is a great tutorial, could have been made by anyone.. http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?p=2695779#2695779

yes doomsavenger, any free section is free.. So please if you have the time just post something, anything :pray: !! All I need is a thumbs up and I'll be free to just go mad with linework, I've got all the time in the world since I aint gotta job yet.. I'll leave colouring to you guys..

haha, maybe.. I gotta say tho im not telling people how to colour, there's no right or wrong way, artists through the years have proved that, some methods just work, just be creative..

nope ur not allowed to use other peoples work, eyeball it whilst your drawing your own to see how you can improve it.

oh lol ok dkjestrup Ill help ya out a bit more tmz, but im kinda busy atm. what I can tell ya for now is your perspective and layout is very cliche' , try put more depth into your image, look at icey landscapes, frozen lakes etc to help ya get the colours looking right, your characters proportions are off, mines not a great example of proportions (just wanted to illustrate how you could initially approach such a character) try plan out your characters skeleton frame before adding too much detail if you don't sort out stances, proportions ect before hand its just a pain trying to fix it later on. I like your progress so far, its much better.. hope ya dnt mind if I make another edit to sketch out what id love to see this lookin like. Ill do that tmz.

don't place you're eyes too high guys, Im no expert with faces, just look at yourself in the mirror, or look for references on google or sumit.. You're character's very small D3M0NX, and as his skins so dark, your details won't stand out too much so I'd just suggest you keep it simple.