Bloodkay

Had they embraced it, they would still need to set limits on free trade and ways to item/money transfer. Why? Because other RWTer's would turn around and bight them in the [wagon] by selling gold a lot cheaper than the "official" gold you could buy. That's the only way they'd turn a profit from it; by being the only source to buy gold from.

Not trying to impress anyone, this is a damn forum. Had you read my latest post you would have noticed that I admitted I WAS WRONG! But don't stop being ignorant on my account :roll:

Okay, you say it devalues achievements? Well I say it devalues the game in general to me. You can't really compare receiving a D legs drop to buying 3mil. Because where does that 3mil come from? More than likely it's bots. With people botting like crazy to make gold to sell, it fills up certain training spots and lower prices of the items I'm trying to sell. Yews bots were always where ever yews were to be found. They devalued the game for me because I wasn't enjoying the fact that I had to share a tree with player-made robots by players who are too lazy to cut yews themselves. It also devalued the game for me because it lowered yew prices a lot (bottom I think was about 180 per log). I actually couldn't care less about RWTer's buying a damn Phat with gold they didn't earn themselves while I chose to make it all by wcing. I care about competing with 3-4 bots in every place on every world. THAT is how it devalues the game for me ~

It's all about how you use your time, Bigmad. I've played a total of 2 years over the last 4 years since I started Runescape. Having high levels doesn't mean they're no-lifers. I know quite a few people, some are friends even, who all have jobs or girlfriends, or many friends, or very high averages in high school, or a combination of any of those things. It all comes down to what you do with the time that is given to us (Lol, Gandalf, if anyone gets it). Some people manage their time well, some don't. Not many people are dumb enough to be "no-lifers" or get lazy or fat because of Runescape, I would think =\

With only press and media allowed at E3 now, I think that based on the fact that Runescape is a browser-based online game, these new graphics, from what I've seen, could receive some good ratings. This might even boost the population of Runescape a bit more, not that we really need it xD

Okay, so I'm wrong there. What now? I think the actual appeals "the system" went over were smaller offenses where the person pleads guilty, right? Because it's then that there's no need for human interaction, I suppose~ Just deal the according punishment =\

I already stated what I wanted -.- For a Jagex Mod, an actual Jagex employee to come out and say it's actually automated. Player mods saying things doesn't do justice, they aren't Jagex Employees. The response on page 2 of the link from the Jagex Mod is clear enough about why there are seconds later responses. I do recognize their avoidance of certain appeal questions, though. Also...you can't really "photoshop a video", can you? I haven't seen videos, screenshots though. And again, I probably wouldn't believe a P Mod's testimony against Jagex, simply because: A, If the player is against Jagex, yes they'll slander them to make them look bad. B, Once again, Player Mods are not Jagex Mods or Jagex employees. They should have very little to no understanding about inner workings at Jagex and hoe they deal with appeals.

Sorry, I too think that we don't need any more skills either. Most F2Per's are happy with the 15 skills we have ^^"

We just got better robes. We don't need any new spells, we have enough as it is already. I do think that we need some form of skillcapes or other, though =P

Sorry I responded to your post? And no, PKing never interested me much, so I did it very little. I'm a skiller, so yes, I know the removal of the Wilderness effected me very little. Again, no. I did not play RSC, as I joined Runescape back in the fall of 2004. And yes I know that RSC was very heavily based Pking. But how do those questions tie into you thinking Jagex hides their "mistakes" with updates?

I have read, I do understand, Kinggabe. All I really see is paranoid thoughts and dissection of what the Jagex Mods respond with. They think too much, in my opinion. And I still stand by my point that no REAL, CONCLUSIVE evidence has come forth that says there's no human interaction with most appeals. When the day comes that Jagex steps out and declares that they have indeed been using automated systems to review and judge many appeals, then I will personally PM you and complete and full apology about my ignorance to the matter. Until then, I stand firm~

I love posts like this. People who don't bother to actually read a few posts/pages ahead of time and see counter-arguments should not bother posting at all =\ No "complete" skill would be opened to F2P. Just a part of it. A part of a skill has been debated that it's not actually sufficient enough to argue that people won't buy memberships just because F2P got something P2P had. (Just like with the Party room and Duel Arena, how many Memberships were canceled due to them being opened up to F2P? I bet you it's close to 0.) Members will still have access to everything they get when buying a Membership. In no way does giving F2P something actually affect what P2P gets.

Okay, I understand your thought. But are you implying that Jagex lies? I do think they are genuine and honest, and heed to what their clients want when asked (Guaranteed Content Polls). They also chose to change their game to improve the quality of it through the removal of almost all RWT, and, not to mention, we ARE getting a big quality update next month, aren't we? Through the higher detail mode? Jagex DOES lie. Just read the first 2 pages of the thread I linked here and you'll have an idea on what I'm talking about. Customer Support and whether or not it's human-handled has been debated for years and years. No real evidence has come up that shows Jagex is lying about it =\ Also, I don't really trust Truthscape, especially the Issues section. For, in my opinion, far too many accusations with no evidence, as well as hate towards Jagex have been born there.

Well then, if that is happening still, then you'd better make the best of it now. Because sooner or later, or even now, Jagex will catch on to it and take away the 3-30k free cash every 15 minutes as well as claiming items from Bounty Hunter from kills. I seriously doubt that Jagex wouldn't do that, after seeing how much they've already changed their game.

Okay, I understand your thought. But are you implying that Jagex lies? I do think they are genuine and honest, and heed to what their clients want when asked (Guaranteed Content Polls). They also chose to change their game to improve the quality of it through the removal of almost all RWT, and, not to mention, we ARE getting a big quality update next month, aren't we? Through the higher detail mode?

We're not "on our knees" for Jagex just because we agree to most or to everything that they decide to do and want to defend it here from your arguments. Saying things like "Get over it" accompanied with an explanation (which I've seen happen in most posts so far) is not considered flaming, so you should maybe calm down. You ask us where you said that you care what our levels are, yet you tell us your levels could own us back then. Sounds like you care about it to me. There's also this: That also sounds like you caring about his only "ranked" level being Hunter, and therefor he automatically would get owned in the wild? So you you see no fun nor a point in "staring at a tree". I guess the same can be applied to various skills. With PvP in Rs "pretty much dead", what in God's name are you doing here? What else could you possibly find fun in this game? Sitting there and chatting with friends? People in the real world don't live with that attitude because things can be changed and fixed in the REAL WORLD, because it's there that things can and will be changed. As for Runescape? No. Why? Because it does not belong to us. We don't (really) have a choice in what happens in Runescape. We have no control over what changes happen to Runescape So, once again, comparing Runescape to the REAL WORLD fails.

Oh, sorry o_o" I didn't mean it like that, I meant that those people, plus the ones you've included, suffer from lack of unbalanced trades. I'm not trying to group them all together into one "bad" group :P

Maybe for people who stake in duels or would want to give newbs/friends some free stuff. Other than that, it would just give RWTer's more room to breathe, if they allow more money per 15 minutes.

I see no chaos being caused? I'm sorry people can't transfer money and items between accounts or sell gold anymore (no I'm not :P), but it's all for the greater good. I really have no grudge against it, as I use the G.E.

I agree with what you're saying, that drop rate should either be lowered or you should only get items if you're on the task (for slayer monsters only, right?) or that a new high-leveled slayer-required item or items be made. However, I disagree that you should be posting this in the rants section as you state it's not a rant, and it seems more of a suggestion xD Should probably ask a Mod to move it~

I'd like to quote something that Tim Buckley over at Ctrl+Alt+Del said earlier today. Because Jagex is a company, they're in this to make money, that's what a company does. However, how could you call them money obsessed when they've taken out large chunks of their game that many players enjoyed? Hundreds, if not thousands of memberships were obviously canceled due to players not enjoying the game anymore. This does mean less money for Jagex. They aren't money "obsessed", but they do want to make money. And I don't think they "simply don't care" either. Of course they care about their product! What company doesn't? They simply have the game in their best interests, so they must take out what is affecting it in a negative fashion. This isn't a debate at all. You present only two negative sides to an argument. A debate could go along the lines of "Does Jagex care for their game or not?" or "Is Jagex truly in it for the money?". But, I have seen those topics before, so you'd just be spamming up the forums even more if you were to recreate them xD

I see no problem with the trade system. You can't make an unbalanced trade, which allows for no scams and no cash/item transfers. The G.E. allows for all of Runescape to buy and sell their items without hassle. Prices are based solely on supply and demand with a little influence from Jagex so that they don't go too high or too low or that people abuse the system. Really now, the only people who should be complaining are merchants, scammers and RWTer's. No honest player has a real need for unbalanced trade, except the occasional birthday present or donation. "All for the greater good."

17, always has been =P It's Canadian, it's usually full and the good training spots are usually practically empty xD

I could really live without Firemaking. There's no real use for it in F2P except a quick place to cook your food. But nowadays, almost everyone fishes > banks then cooks on range > banks.

It isn't really going against the poorer players of Runescape. It's simply giving a new, optional way to play the game. Nothing changes who can play the game, they're just giving the people who have a better computer the ability to play in a higher detail.