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I love it. It's truly the only skill that involves some form of dynamic thought. However, the reward system is vastly under-stocked. You can have everything by level 107 or so. I think there should be some very high-end rewards worth around the 1m token mark to truly flesh it out.

I find Fire and Earth Runes are the most commonly supplied by monster drops, stick with one of those, or make an elemental staff from a log drop. Either way you'll have Fire/Earth surges within the first few rooms. The Blood necklace comes with +11 strength and the ability to deal minor damage that heals you as well, so it's like a strength boost and a passive soul split, which I'd consider a benefit for a Rest of the Team.

I'm not too certain about Celestial. Within 3 rooms I usually have a Fire Staff (Empowered or not), and it wastes next to no time to make. With a good Blazer and no armour on that pretty much rips apart warriors anyway. Just something to consider the next time you come across a Hexhunter or a Blood Necklace.

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The chaotic stuff only reaches its true potential with those higher level prayers and extreme potions. So like I say, it's good to have some high base levels before you start. It'll help in the dungeon and prepare you for out. It's okay to train Dungeoneering, I just recommend only going with friends though so you figure out the ropes first before being exposed to worlds like 117.

Statswise, it's good to train Combat stuff with Slayer, while Farming in-between. The resource skills I find comfortable to do while watching movies or homework or whatever, and can be done whenever you get bored of combat. I recommend saving Dungeoneering until you have a few valuable high stats (Crafting, Construction, Mining, Smithing, etc.) to round out your teams a bit more. It is an "end-game" skill so to speak, so having some good stats would definitely help.

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To clarify, their effects do NOT stack.

I appreciate it but the list just doesn't make much sense to me at the moment. Really appreciate all the calculations and tasks lists that are posted here even though I don't always say it, keep it up! Also was wondering if people would be interested to hear about my runescape history and how I started going for 200M in all skills. Would explain why I started asking for donations too, it would be very long post though and I don't really like talking about myself. Never been good writer either, especially in English. Would probably post it after Bonus XP weekend because been really busy with Slayer lately and have to write a bit at a time haha :P And don't really know if its something that people would like to read. Anyways post what you think and I will think about it :P This please please please. :ohnoes:

Talk to the Herb shop dude in Nardah. He does an inventory for like 50gp I think.

It took about 1.7k Black Dragons to get my Egg. Not even kidding.... :thumbdown:

@Helm_Lardar If you feel like dealing with shenanigans, by all means please try world 117. But seriously, I think the consensus is to solo your way up into the 50's, and then start trying the teams. I think it'd be more efficient to just do Dungeons of any size really with friends, as it's more likely to be an enjoyable experience. @Everyone Just added a Basic Keying section, this will be followed by an Advanced Keying section as soon as I get back home tonight. The Lingo section is up at the end, and the Complexity 1 tips have been moved (let's see if you can find it :grin: ). Hopefully this will give you guys some tips as soon as it's up. Thanks for all of the feedback!

I regret to have to agree with this post. Really hoping for a big surprise here because that BTS teaser isn't appetizing at all. :sad:

Post made my day. That is just too funny. :grin:

I've decided to train Crafting for Bonus XP weekend, and I can't decide what method to use. Assuming I cut gems, what is the best gem to cut for the cost during the first hour or so of the bonus? I want to get the best bang for the buck here.

Okay, they said tiny gameplay tweaks. I'd expect less of the new rewards and items worth binding and more of the warped walls not making resources inaccessible and toolkits showing up to other people again types of updates. It would still be a good month for Dungeons if: Reborn Mages were fixed graphically, with their Warriors' timers reduced to that of Zombies with Necromancers. Something was done about "tweaking" Vine room structures to take up less time. Stomp gets nerfed on Complexity 1. Some sort of system to adjust door levels when someone leaves the dungeon.

Sooooo stoked for that RoW update. Seriously have always wanted a reason to use it since they debunked it. The Dungeoneering updates better be good. Would like to see another bind spot or better rewards, and maybe some equipment to give the SSH some competition.

The 1 minute auto-log of a few years ago was atrocious. Gathering skills such as Woodcutting simply couldn't be done with forum windows open lest you read too long. The 5 minute timer of nowadays, however, is plenty. Definitely one of the smarter moves they've made with the game.

You've got to spread the knowledge if you want to fight the stupidity. Dungeonsweep is definitely a good avenue of escape, and I think the Noquitters clan or whatever is at least reasonable.

Any ideas for Crafting?

Pre-Free Trade being re-instated, I believe it was break-even. Now, I honestly don't know with all of the recent price fluctuations.

I spent a lot of time researching this problem. What I've found is that they are "most" commonly found in floors 30-35. Some people believe it's worth the time to solo C6 these floors repeatedly until you get one. That's the only "range" I've found where these things pop up the most, or just what all of the help threads I've read on this. Personally, I got mine in a solo F20 or something like that.

Major gratz to this thread on 250 pages of [mostly] helpful speculation! Lots of training tips gleaned off this topic's surface. :thumbsup:

Adding in a section on Complexity 1 (under Rooms) and a section on Lingo (at the end). Thanks for the feedback so far guys, more to come this week!

Boss fights have just kind of lost their luster outside of Daemonheim. I think adding some smaller LP-boosting rewards to Dungeoneering rewards or in-game equipment would give players a taste of the armour's abilities, meaning more interest in how that stuff is acquired. Then again that could just be me wondering why they didn't make near enough rewards for people training to 120.