Why is it acceptable to wear brand tshirts (Nike) or band tshirts but not games? Are people seriously concerned about what other ppl might think? Most of my friends know I play, some of my work friends know I play, some of my family know I play. I'm not a social pariah. I think it comes down to simple marketing psychographics. Whats 5 words when you think of runescape? What us old guard may suggest - the people who know of it in passing probably won't. Even if you try to do it honestly and unbiasedly you get words like these Free (Jagex boasts largest free rpg still), Roleplaying Game Java (not exactly known for gaming brilliance MMO (not exactly known for social butterflys) Browser Based (Hello Farmville and Mafia Wars) I'm wearing a shirt with a Mountain Dew Logo right now - sure free advertising for Pepsi Co - but Dew is delicious, trendy and something everyone is familiar with, it has no negative stigmas like a runescape shirt does. The only thing I might ever buy from Runescape thats currently offered would be the books, currently I can buy them on amazon for the same price plus on amazon if I spend $25 I get free shipping. On Jagex I pay $7.99 per book and $7.90 shipping - that shipping price will ensure I never order again. One book is over $4 shipping Again bested by amazon. Lets move on to the shirts. For the price, I can buy a product with more prestige in the world of fashion like American Eagle for pretty much comparable prices. Nikestore online is more expensive, but you can simply go to a nike outlet store and kill the jagex prices - Go to Hot Topic for pop culture stuff, chances are you will find something more trendy for a similar price as well. Now as for the shirts designs - Does ones like Cabbage Bomb, Bad Monkey exactly scream runescape? Why have the pink partyhat on the mens hoody? why not blue which is more of a male color - I guess I'd wear the combat triangle shirt if I had to be forced to wear those designs. Shirts with the words "I pked your mom, I love runescape" "big ass boss monster" or "level 99 party animal" look cheap, What does I <3 RS mean to people outside of runescape anyway? Rapidshare? Rolling Stones, red sea? It's not the media hound wow is. Next up - The shirts themselves. They don't exactly scream high quality. I happen to of received one as a gift and let's just say it's not that great of quality fabric wise (And I just wore it around the house) As for companies on facebook? I fanned the ones I do buisness with, especially the ones who have useful perks like free shipping codes and sale/store updates, but 20% off? that doesn't even cancel out the shipping enough to make it worth my while. 20% off from most places doesn't excite me, I'd have to spend $50 or 60 to see any real savings. it's certainly not enough to make me care to spring for smaller items. But if they can't get a coupon code to work in a store, it's no flipping wonder they can't stop macro's and cheats . As for the Jmod? I dare him to stop macro's - work so hard it has to be considered a laughing matter around the jagex office since it simply can't be done ~Das