Kimberly

There are hundreds of monsters like that sadly. But for now, people like Unknown don't need to worry.

The bots have not "disappeared" they're still there if you bother to look. They were up and running less than 5 hours after release.

The point where it's no longer worth it for Jagex to sell gold due to being unable to stop the black market is far higher than the point where it's no longer worth it for a script runner to execute his scripts and sell his gold to a black market site (an hour's effort, maybe?) Flower games/gambling even less so than that. Jagex selling gold is not a solution to the RWT'ing problem, regardless if Jagex selling is a real possibility for Runescape's future.

Skele horror is still pretty much the same and has no new weakness to speak of and actually hits quite pathetically. If you get any accurate info on its LP each stage you should probably contact a crewbie cause I screwed it up when I was checking yesterday afternoon :s

And if f2p bots and players alike are completely unable to compete with p2p bots then what is the point of the removal from the high scores? The facts they gave us in this case were highly illogical, so it is hard to accept "just because of bots" as the defining reason why the high scores were removed for f2p, let alone their utility to the average f2p player which was far greater than simply ranking.

Does anyone know what we should do to let Jagex know about monsters that need their armor rating/maxes/lp/whatever adjusted? They're not really...bugs. IDK what to do with them.

It's completely legible, DVD. But it's not as legible as the original. It might be worse on old CRT's though.

There's some formatting on the text while in the red/green/yellow cells. I think this is what he's talking about. It works really well on darker blue backgrounds but not so well on the lighter colors you see in the calculators.

Could you by chance explain what's keeping you from being logged out? :3

The delivery does not match the desired message.

I was surprised they put a mention of eastern lands in the BTS...unless they suddenly changed their minds (which I very much doubt), we won't be seeing any bit of the eastern continent, it's just the lore explanation where the sailors in your POP get their materials from... ...Right, so why would that not warrant mentioning?

Saw a similar opinion in reddit. If you're a top earning gambling host, of course you'd see an impending RWT ban coming if you have no faith in Jagex as Starrychelx did. That is not a confession necessarily.

They're easy to miss, especially since skilling is frowned upon, but it happens pretty regularly.

It was a clever way of showing him grappling with the consequences of his coldness and the reality of losing his wife. I think that's too important to classify as a "waste." It's not like we had a shortness of action/story progression so much so that character development needs to be sacrificed. And I think the "archer girl" just has a similar block that Andrea had when she was learning how to shoot. But I don't know anything about the comic so that might not get explained.

He did. Can confirm.

Whether or not a person was in love with the game or hated it from the start has no bearing on the fact that their choices are their own. By passing the buck onto Jagex, as Starrychelx clearly did in the video, lessens any responsibility for himself. This is false. Whether or not people can sympathize with him on his dislike for Jagex or the position he found himself in when he no longer wanted to play is completely irrelevant to how he handled himself in his "farewell video." The assumption that he did not want to create another account to RWT is only relevant when we consider his reasons for RWT'ing in the first place -- this is where your "if you had 25k would you RWT it or not" comes into play. There are things that may influence your decision. You pointed out, wealth gained with no risk, is a huge influence. Dissatisfaction with the game can also be one. Real-life need is another. These things might be the reasons behind a person's choice to RWT. But if you are saying "I only did this because Jagex has no right to take action against us when they do it too," you are avoiding any and all personal responsibility in your choice. At that point you are convincing whoever will listen that you did this because you had no choice in it, or the choice you made was "for the greater good." I can understand wanting to quit because you no longer had an interest in the game because of the direction the company took. I can even understand selling your wealth if you're leaving the game. Yet beyond that, your choice to RWT is no longer influenced by Jagex. His video condemns the supposed hypocracy of Jagex banning players for RWT'ing when they have Micro-transactions. As a result, the message his video is sending (whether he intended it or not) is that it's Jagex's fault players are RWT'ing and that the consequences from those actions are unfair or unjustified. You sound as if you know him personally, and I am sure that he is a better man than what he's portraying himself to be. As I said in earlier posts, I do not know him and I only have videos like this to go on. Unfortunately, the message he's shown here probably does him a great injustice, because it makes him look like just another ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWER rwt'er. Maybe he has a lot of integrity but just didn't realize how he came across. I'm simply explaining why, based on that video, it looks like he lacks integrity and how this is what many RWT'ers do to escape the responsibility of their actions and the consequences of those actions. The devil is in the details.

That entire Starrychelx video is a platform for martyrdom and condemns Jagex without any acknowledgement. "I don't want to go into any detail as to why I'm quitting, but nevermind that the entire intro of the video makes it sound as if I was quitting because of Jagex and not because I couldn't be bothered to create another account to continue RWT'ing." Instead he blames Jagex for bringing in microtransactions as a means of turning players to RWT which is honestly completely incorrect since RWT existed far before MT was a glint in someone's eye on the board of directors. This is a use of misdirection and deceit to lessen his own personal choice in the matter. He doesn't take the time to say, "I made x, y, and z choices because of a, b, and c reasons and I have no regrets." There is a massive difference here and no matter if you agree with the disapproval he displayed with MT's, his deception should be absolutely clear and deplorable to those who follow him. If I could give any future banned RWT'ers any advice, it would be to bow out with some grace and a shred of your integrity left. Or better yet? Say nothing. Returning quietly on an alt has more significance and power in your actions if you just can't help turning it into a crusade against Jagex. Flailing your arms and crying wolf just lessens your credibility and your argument in the eyes of those you're trying to sway. E: Sorry for the multiple edits.

I fail to see how that is relevant to the fact that they aren't claiming responsibility for their actions. I'm not saying they should crucify themselves, whip themselves, cry "OH LAWD I'LL NEVER RWT AGAIN!" But simply saying, "Yeah, I RWT'd because it was good cash." without going "omg dead runescape jagex killing the game 2012 rip rip rip" conveys a world of difference. I have no respect for the decisions made by those who preach the latter over the former.

I'm not sure if we were disputing that the SoF is a form of Real-World Trading, though. I think the issue exists more with people who use Runescape's inevitable change as an excuse for their decision without applying any more thought to the issue. A person who says "I don't care about <thing>" versus "I think the people in charge of <thing> did <something I disagree with>" are very different things. One absolves them of responsibility for their actions, one owns up to it. We can argue morality all day long...but integrity. No one really says anything about integrity anymore. Integrity is owning up to your actions and being accountable. Some people might view Jagex as lacking integrity in their practices. But to then use that as an excuse to shed your own personal integrity, to shift blame all onto them and take no responsibility for your actions? That's why I can't understand why these people who get banned make these farewell videos. That's why I think their actions were stupid and their reasoning behind them even more so. They'd rather lie than simply state the truth: they just wanted the money and that's that. Instead they turn it into a crusade. I don't think they are pathetic people, but if I had to judge them based on one act -- this act and how they've responded to it -- I would.

He did not explicitly state that they have gone towards those things, just that they had the ability to be. We have been told that they're now investing in better infrastructure following BXPW. We have been told that they were saving the funds to ensure Runescape's longevity. These are the only real "facts" we have on the situation, which is really unfortunate because maybe if more facts were in circulation we would have less need for wild speculation about their business health. As for the quality of updates, like if we're talking technical quality? They're about the same as they were when RWT was disallowed in game and privately. Still the same glitch-ridden product. I am not entirely sure how this is a justification of RWT'ing so maybe you could clarify. As for giving up the integrity of the game, well, I think this is something we all agree with. But they have done it and there's nothing we can do about it. We can send in our letters, we can be as eloquent as we please, but this is the direction they're taking. They're following in the footsteps of the rest of the gaming industry in order to survive and they don't really care for us older players who are, to them, "stuck in our ways." I understand that instead of staying or leaving, there's a "third option" -- RWT. But even still, I wouldn't. That's just my personal decision. I don't throw shit on my floor just because the host has at their own party. I don't have to help with the clean-up, but I don't have to make the task any harder for when they do.

My bad, I thought that was in response to Angry Aussie. I understand your point better now. Sorry for jumping to a hasty conclusion.

But if the crime example is flawed to the point where it illustrates a completely different scenario, it's no better than what you're using instead. Using a crime based analogy puts Jagex as the party inflicting whatever action on the people: rape, theft, murder, arson, whatever. It doesn't make sense. It's a bad analogy for the situation let alone the fact that citing laws and possible violation of them wasn't even an analogy to begin with. Could you explain further? Because as it stands I don't understand what you're trying to say in the least.

And how exactly are they stealing from the players when the players walk into that agreement willingly, as did Starry, Fishy, and any other banned RWTer ever did? Throwing around "RIP old runescape" and blaming jagex for what they did is the political equivalent of throwing around buzzwords like freedom and stopping terrorists to keep their approval ratings high. In this case they're using them to lessen their own blame. For the record, that shouldn't need explanation. It's kind of frustratingly disappointing that it does.

Had to clear a few posts off the topic. If you notice them missing and you disagree with it, please PM me. Just a general comment: please stick to arguing ideas.