Riptide Mage

No, you cannot, not unless the router/switch's default settings have been changed to allow VPN connections, and many routers don't even support the feature Like yourself. As I and others have said, if you even once connect to another person or site you have given away your ip, people don't need to try to find something that is given away every time you perform any connection online. People can't connect to you to try to get your ip, because if they can do that they already have your ip. There is no "indirect" method of getting someone else's ip, nor does a firewall have ANYTHING to do with preventing anything like you have claimed it does. There are no other ways to get an ip besides the web as ip's are what make the internet work. The only reason you continue to post in this thread is you do not understand the correct things that are being told to you and yet you continue to type misinformation. Look up NAT, firewalls, tcp/ip on a reliable source or take a class in networking or even code your own bot before you continue to make yourself look more like an idiot. And as a bonus, open your command prompt and type "NETSTAT -A" becuase its that simple to see the IP of every connection to your machine.

My point is that the LAN ip means NOTHING, an attacker doesn't need to know your computer's 192.168.xxx.xxx ip, that is a LAN ip and is totally worthless as a target. When you connect to a website the site sees your WAN ip, and not your LAN ip, your router uses NAT to determine which user behind the router what packets are intended for. In a DDOS situation the packets are not intended for anyone, they are simply sent to the WAN ip and slow the network from there. All it would take for me to DOS you would be to embed an image in this post that is hosted on my webserver, see what ip address sent the GET request, use netcat from my 100mbit/100mbit dedicated server to send a stream of SYN packets towards your ip and you wouldn't be able to do anything online until I decided to stop since the server is unmetered and all residential ISP cap the downstream bandwidth. Please tell me how a firewall or "getting on a network" has anything to do with that? If I were to do that your router would only be receiving a quarter of the packets I sent (assuming 25mbit cap) and the rest would be lost or queued up at the node your ISP uses to assign your ip, if the queue was particularly long you might even feel the effects of the DOS a while after I stopped. For this to happen the router has to be set up to allow VPN (virtual private networking) which requires a user naem and password to remotely join the LAN, connecting to an unsecured wireless access point is an entirely different, unrelated, situation. It takes 0 work to host a php script that records REMOTE_ADDR or type /WHOIS in an irc chat. A firewall doesn't magically make the packets disappear, your router/modem are still going to be flooded by an overwhelming amount of data preventing anyone connected to said modem/router from doing anything online. You still don't understand that there is a difference between a LAN and a WAN ip address. There is no need for an attacker to know your computer's LAN address, all he/she needs is your modem/router's WAN address to take down the entire network.

Manbearbatpig

You completely do not get the fact that a LAN ip is useless and has nothing to do with a DDOS, there is only one ip that matters in a DDOS, and that is the WAN ip. The firewall doesn't "knock out" anything, since if you can connect to where the firewall is located you know the ip already.

You don't get it, there is 100% no need to "jump onto your network", you can't even do that unless the default settings on the router have been modified to allow for VPN connections. The firewall itself WILL and DOES have an ip, and that is the ip that attackers use, the WAN ip, not your LAN ip which anything on the network uses to communicate to other things on the network. Did you even read the link on NAT? You seem to be under the delusion that a firewall does not have an IP of its own. Read some books about networking or take a class in it before you further spread your misknowledge.

You seriously have no idea what you are talking about. A firewall only filters packets, it doesn't prevent anything. Even if you are are behind a hardware firewall it will be either built into your modem or your router. The way a network works is the modem has an external (WAN) ip and all the machines connected to the router have internal (LAN) ips. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_ad ... ranslation An attack does not need your LAN ip to launch a DDOS, they just target the WAN ip. An attacker does not have to "directly accessing their network due to a lack of firewall", the attacker doesn't even need to know anything about what is behind the router, and in fact unless the router has ports forwarded to the machines on the LAN the attacker cannot find out what is behind the router. Example: Timmy is on his home computer which is connected to his router which is connected to his cable modem. Since he is behind a router he has a LAN ip, his happens to be 192.168.1.103, his mom's computer in the other room is 192.168.1.102 and his brother's xbox360 is 192.168.101. Timmy's WAN ip as assigned by his ISP is 208.43.229.99. Timmy has been talking on MSN with John about having a deathmatch. John tells Timmy to watch this cool video of his last few fights, and Timmy stupidly clicks the link. The link looked like a link to youtube, but it actually first sent Timmy to a webpage with a PHP script that recorded his IP address and then redirected him to youtube. Timmy thought John kinda sucked so he decided to fight John. They met in some PVP zone and John told Timmy to attack him first. As soon as Timmy attacked John, John sent a command to his control bot which then instructed the rest of his bots to begin attacking the ip that his script had recorded, 208.43.229.99, his WAN ip. Timmy watched as suddenly he lost connection and his ags was surely doomed, his brother yelled in outrage as right before the final winning kill of the game he lost connection, and his mother exclaimed "what the hell?" as her game of online bingo froze. Behind the scenes millions of packets of data were being received by his modem and forwarded to his router with its built in firewall. The moral of the story, your LAN ip means jack squat to an attacker, all they need is a choke point along path to your machine, target that, and your machine and anything else that relies on that connection will go down. The modem is a choke point because it must forward all the packets to the router, the router is a choke point because it must use NAT to determine which machine to forward the packets to, the firewall is an even bigger choke point because it must inspect every packet to see if it is allowed. Even if an attacker doesn't know your exact ip, but does know what part of a town you live in he can instead just target the node you connect to, example: 208.43.229.*** with a large enough botnet and knock a potential 255 houses offline.

Its illegal for ISPs to monitor your traffic under the wiretapping laws, so no, its not something ISPs can notice. Most DDOS attacks are launched by a botnet, and if it is a well built one or a user using a bit of common sense (like a proxy) it will not be possible to find the person who actually launched the attack. And the Ping of Death attack hasn't worked in over a decade. Ping flooding does work though, but it would be highly unlikely for a single user's upstream bandwidth to be greater than another user's downstream when the top tier cable internet speeds are capped at 25mbit/s down and 2mbit/s up. I still pointed out how neither anti-viral software or a firewall has anything to do with another person getting your IP.

Anti-virus and firewalls do nothing to prevent people from getting your IP, I think you are confusing your LAN and WAN ip addresses. Every time you connect to anything on the internet somebody gets your IP, its the only way for the connected-to server to know who/how to respond. A DDOS works by sending more packets of data than your bandwidth can handle, its not something software can handle, its a hardware/firmware issue. Most IM clients have exploitable methods of getting another user's ip just by knowing their username. Example: AIM - sending a specially formatted add-on connection packet can force a person using version 5.9 or lower to invisibly visit a webpage which can be used to record an IP or to attempt to hit the target with a malware payload. No router/firewall/switch can prevent a DDOS if the bot-herder has a large enough net, even systems running Cisco's anti-DDOS solution can be taken down with a large enough assault. Learn to read. Virus and firewall block out the SIMPLE methods. Simple methods being the straight forward computer illiterate people can do it methods. The simple method is a SYN flood or using something like LOIC[Caution: Executable File] neither of which are a DDOS attack, they are DOS methods. Using a modified rBot isn't even complicated for the moderately computer literate user. And I do know how to read and how networking works. A DDOS is not something that an anti-virus has anything to do with. Anti-viruses block things from being installed or executed on a machine. Firewalls act as a filter, controlling what is allowed in or out. Even if your firewall is set to block all IP's except for Runescape's, the DDOS packets are still bombarding your connection, they are just not being allowed to reach the computer(s) the firewall is protecting, the DDOS still will choke your bandwidth no matter what you do. Only server farms, large DNS nodes, or similarly commercial/corporate systems stand a chance against a DDOS due to distributed connections/routing.

Anti-virus and firewalls do nothing to prevent people from getting your IP, I think you are confusing your LAN and WAN ip addresses. Every time you connect to anything on the internet somebody gets your IP, its the only way for the connected-to server to know who/how to respond. A DDOS works by sending more packets of data than your bandwidth can handle, its not something software can handle, its a hardware/firmware issue. Most IM clients have exploitable methods of getting another user's ip just by knowing their username. Example: AIM - sending a specially formatted add-on connection packet can force a person using version 5.9 or lower to invisibly visit a webpage which can be used to record an IP or to attempt to hit the target with a malware payload. No router/firewall/switch can prevent a DDOS if the bot-herder has a large enough net, even systems running Cisco's anti-DDOS solution can be taken down with a large enough assault.

Since when are battlestaves F2P?

My 2 cents, if you're just bursting for exp do it in pest control, unlimited prayer plus extra exp gains due to wins and no worry of death

I would say tanking is completely out of the question, with only 66 defense you aren't going to be able to keep up on healing and fighting at the same time.

You mean the same thing that can be done with an AGS? Except twice from each player?

That was something constructive; I was pointing out how the three words are too similar in meaning, every time jagex has released a collection items the names have been distinct in word and meaning.

The words Divine, Holy, and Pious all too similar of meanings.

I just killed Jad, means woo hoo fire cape for me right? Wrong, I didn't have space in my inventory, so I drop an empty vial, click the fire cape to pick it up and BAM maze. By the time I got through the maze the cape was gone :( *sigh* 4th try's a charm right?

I read this entire thread and I saw one key point that everyone seems to have overlooked. Raising the hitpoints max will effect the combat levels of everyone who has more exp than is needed for 99, which would upset anyone who is a pure with 99 in one combat skill and 99 hitpoints.

Remove that 150 and its not that bad

RIP to the place years ago I merched nats and made half a billion.

Disabled is not the same as banned.

Would be nice if any evidence showed up when I click "show evidence" how am I supposed to re-appeal something I don't remember from a year ago.

Um..I'm already banned from posting on the RSOF for something that was "said" in game.

Zammy book is held in the shield slot.

I've tanked over 10k avians starting from when I was 90 def, and I will tell you that you will not need the bunyip or the super def pots if you wear torag's legs or bandos' tassets, blessed hide body, blessed bracers, an aramdyl helm, fury ammy, granite/obby shield. DO NOT wear d'hide legs and body at the same time unless you plan to be healing often. Bring a load of strawberry baskets when you first go there and you won't have to use a B2P tab for quite a while. I'm currently 95 defense and my setup is: Armadyl helm Fury Armadyl chestplate Bandos Tassets Ranger Boots Zammy Book Sara BRacers Archer's Ring and I maybe have to use a B2P tab ever 40-50 kills.

I am not sure if Java uses the C++ language as I am just a novice kiddie programmer, but if I remember correctly, it can handle somewhere in the 2.4B region. Therefore, JaGeX could set the maximum Xp in the billions. java and c++ are two entirely different languages. The reason 2,147,483,647 is not the max value and 200,000,000 is, is because you have fractional amounts of EXP (only in increments of .1) A common shortcut in coding when the decimal will only be a few digits long (I would say 1-3) is to not actually use a decimal/double/single variable type, is to instead use an integer but format the output to appear like it is a decimal. So every time you deal one damage, which appears to give 4 exp, you are actually gaining 40 exp, the ones place is truncated from the client side display. Jagex could have had the maximum amount of EXP be 214,748,364.7, but thats kind of an awkward number.