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What about like... larupia or kyatt armour with dhide chaps? If I'm not mistaken thats the best... if not, thats the best armour that works with the accumulator. But I know its 1 def and I know its good defence bonuses.

Nope, no loss of round when helms are used. It's their unique advantage. And for jad, if you go with a 99 veng (after sara brewed HP) and triple 45 from g maul and use miasmic barrage (possible if you use a macro for your dd++ spec), you can get: 32-45-45-45-74-10 = 251 damage, 1 hit KO. The_murder21, are you listening? Lol, was also thinking about The_murder21. If anyone would pull it off, it's him. Man, if he really succeeds... You'd need A LOT of luck though. (4 hits of you have to be max, and Jad has to max too + good timing). Well unfortunately, he quit on September 5th. I already have another plan, somewhat similar to this... but not quite :P Granite Maul would take about 100 times to get this... Have you ever seen the accuracy on it? Its just ew. But yeah, I've considered... Dark bow, double maul spec, veng, recoil... if you know what you're doing, that could be about a 5-10 second jad :P But you need insanely lucky hits... thats why I have a different plan :P [hide=My Fast jad plan]lawl sike u cant have it :> You'll see when I do it :P[/hide] Anyways.... Blitz comboing you have to be careful. Many people know they're being blitzed spec - it says "You have been frozen!" in the chat box and they instapray... and either way the chance of killing on blitz specs is really hard. But yes, ice blitz and shadow barrage tends to work very well. It works better the farther away you are, though. Thats why it doesn't really work with rock lobs. Veng acts weirdly on players. It doesn't always do a 3/4ths damage hit... mainly on anything higher than like a 40. I've had a veng on a 76 hit only a 21 =[ But on monsters its always 3/4ths.

lol idiot statement alert. Selling as mid means they are neither going up nor down. Street going up, not GE. I predicted this about a week ago -- purples getting closer to street and all. Purples and yellows being the lowest and most common, I'm not suprised they were the first to turn. Now that the GE has updated and have shown purples and yellows turning, everyone is starting to buy phats. Friend sold her white overnight, so they definitely are being bought. And I'm sure they will be going up soon. [hide=Somewhat large image][/hide] Thankfully, got my friend to take out his 3a legs offer early -- amazed he didn't get them, lol.

THere are so many ways to make a pure that it is hard for one person to decide what you should do. You have pures designed for f2p, initiate/mith pures, black pures (I was one for a lot of my pking career), hybriders, barranger (mage+range)... Loads and loads of stuff can be combined to make a pure. As to which is best? It's all opinions and luck, with very few facts. I'm personally about to develop a pure very soon, so I'm in the same situation, but I just need to determine what quests. Most likely, the most prayer you should probably get is about 44. Nowadays, no one does smite fights anymore, because you don't get anything more for smite dropping someone, whereas in old wilderness you could get a whip or something for a smite drop. It's really only good for something like drags pking where if you smite drop someone it could mean they drop protect prayers, allowing you to spec and get a ko. For those saying that prayer is pointless, you're wrong. Once 15% of your strength level is 10 or higher, its worth it. Around 70-80 strength, prayer is worth it. Make sure you don't get levels you don't want. Pk with Sara Sword if you're gonna get 70 attack, else you'll end up with more attack levels. I'll personally pk with whip cause I actually don't mind the attack levels -- I mean, at like 89 combat I was still dominating pretty decently. You really gotta use every trick in the book at that high of a level, though. Nowadays, I wish I had stayed pure -- I could have destroyed just about any pker I see at the level I was at. I got members around 40 attack, 70 strength on theuberelite. Then I got 60 attack and Dragon Scimitar... Make sure you don't get 61 attack from the prequests btw, it gives a lot of attack exp. I kept leveling my strength until I was 97 strength,.. then I looked at what it would be like to get 70 attack. My max hit would be raised by something like 4 only for like 2 combat levels... So I got it. Sara sword wasn't out at the time, though. But I was also druids pking a lot, then -- got me 17 whips in about 3 weeks, lol. You gotta be careful with whip -- make sure you change the attack style back to attack after training strength or range when going pking. I got quite a few accidental def levels from that. I got 10 def from that, thats why I was a black pure after a while. But after that I got 99 strength on slayer... so yeah. A pure, though, won't stay low combat forever -- 1 defence pures at 60 attack will be about 82 combat with smite, 99 hp 99 str 60 att 1 def... but around 70 combat is when a lot of pures PK. Especially since p2p low crater was fixed to 3-55 -- a lot of level 68s were left to use PvP again. Basically, its really up to you what to do. Around 40 attack, 70 strength I would get members... 75 strength or 80 strength I would get at least 31 prayer... but be careful. Its your first pure -- you're bound to make some mistakes in the process of using it or making it. Make sure you do everything for mith gloves and don't get any accidental levels. It's really really hard to tell you everything to do to make a pure, cause there are so many quests you can do, so many ways you can make it, etcetera. It's all up to you.

Don't forget, isn't there Armadyl and Bandos gods? And then theres probably tons of Gods we don't even know about right now... But yeah... everything seems to be about the battle of Saradomin and Zamorak, but Zaros and Guthix and all the others seem to have a lot of information that people seem to pass by as insignificant because of the fact that Sara and Zammy are the main ones. Its a lot more interesting if you look into the information about every god; thus, I agree, Zaros and Guthix is a lot more interesting to me than all the other Gods. As for whos the most powerful... I have no clue :-k

I recall seeing it was a time limit for impling type. Something like 45 mins from killing a Dragon Impling until it respawns. So, in other words, its fixed spawn rate? No matter the amount of people in the world?

MoC clan event at Bandos... we got bored... we already had a boots and tassets drop... so we decided to do this. We started with like 12 people, 6 left early and 1 chickened out when we said we were doing this XD This was just so much fun... so chances are you're gonna see more videos of this later, lmao.

You have Spirit Dagannoth max hit listed as 14. It is 16 with normal hit, 18 with scroll I believe. Scroll is the one I'm not sure on, but its either 18 or 19 -- I can confirm 18 on the scroll. The normal hit is definitely right -- I saw it hit a 16 with a normal hit, and Jard Y Dooku's says the max is 16. And I saw it hit an 18 with the scroll -- actually, it hit a 14-16-18 on a fire giant O.O Spirit Dagannoths are one of the best familiars out there... and for 500 gp per pouch, 30 gp per scroll, I definitely will be using them a lot until 89. I mean seriously, thats hardly any money! Even to use the scrolls! And I believe theres no scroll delay at all on the attacks, thus why I hit a 14-16-18. But I don't know if you can hit with whip while using scrolls -- I was seeing how fast the dagannoth could kill a fire giant. It really didn't take long -- they really are damn good for a 500 gp pouch/30 gp scroll. And its a 62 minute timer, too... I can just go on and on about this, but simply put, I'm damn glad I got 83 summoning XD Glad to see the guide coming along so well, by the way. Never would have given a thought to spirit dagannoth until you mentioned it though :P

Probably is 100 using piety. Or geyser titan in multi waterfiends as I've heard. It all depends on what gear, levels, prayers, etc. that you use.

I understand each impling has its own spawn rate, but is the spawn rate for an impling affected by how many people are in each world? For example, would a magpie impling spawn in like 5 minutes on a full world but like 14 minutes in an empty world?

Are spawn times completely random for implings or is it a faster spawn for a fuller world like most other things (ex. rune ore mining)? [hide=Answered]Do implings have specific spawn points in Puro Puro? I could have sworn there was a map of all the spawn points but I can't remember now. If not specific, maybe general areas of Puro Puro? Or can they just spawn anywhere in there?[/hide]

That's weird. I understand if things like the battleaxe and the scim go up a lot -- but dmed doing this? +1.2m?!? This HAS to be either Jagex or a glitch. And if it was Jagex -- why not all corrupt dragon? EDIT: lol 250th post o.o

If you put a disclaimer in the descriptions of videos, they don't get taken down. Just copy it from someone like sosolid2kk or chiszle or w/e and put in the description and give the person credit who you copied it too. Make sure you note that you're not using the video or music for any profit and you should be good. though... I didn't really put any disclaimers on my videos yet so... and a few of them are lure videos from people I know (yeah I know some lurers, so what -.-)... no pray jad with the purple sweets thing (which I loled when they posted about that on the in other news on HD updates), etcetera... I haven't had a single video removed yet. So idk.

[hide=salad170 quote] [/hide] A C I D Y had no impact on this I'm pretty sure of it. Masks were rare to find in the GE and I highly doubt they purposely stocked up on masks for many many months and dumped it. They're probably too busy doing other items right now, tbh. [hide=trembake quote] [/hide] 3rd age and spirit shields being dropped in PVP?! Dude, hell no. That would be a KILLER to the economy. Regular spirit shields -- maybe. Elysian, Divine, etcetera... god, no. But I NEVER saw masks used for RWT -- I don't even see how its possible. [hide=Triquos quote] [/hide] If 3rd age falls, you realize party hats will become insanely dead, right? That''s the most likely result. Partyhats will be near impossible to sell. They already are hard -- you need to get an early sell offer in or get 3rd age. [hide=kudos6969 quote] [/hide] Party hats crashed a long time ago -- Jagex just fixed the GE so that the prices would update even if only one is bought. Thats why they're dropping. But they've been used as junk for a long time. [hide=pulli23 and eyetouch quote] good story (this is also the reason why people with autism are very good inverstors).. Just 1 minor problem: masks weren't high from initial start: it took about 2-3 months before masks started to rise in price! (That's the thing I don't understand about masks: why suddenly it starte to rise). [/hide] It is a good story and a very good explanation. Masks weren't high from the start? Hmm... thought they were after about a week because they were rare. People with autism being good investors... :-k That's explains someone I know o.o

[hide=Randox quote] I like this explantion. As far as I know the masks were expensive for the sake of it more than anything. The other valubel items like christmas crakers, p hats, 3rd age and the other rares, are all expensive because so fe of them exist. The animal masks were artificiay high. The price rose initialy because of massive demand for the new rewards. Masks never came down. This is opposed to something like 3rd age which has always been expensive. I expect there were many original owners of animal masks, and when one fell on the GE all these woners were able to sell at GE price without suffering the losses someone who recently bought one would incure. As the prices drop, demand goes to nill for most people and only people who wanted but couldnt afford become buyers. Now 3rd age an other TT rewards could crash as a result. This is because people would fear a drop and sell low on teh GE. So few of the items are traded on teh GE that a few low sells could show up as multi percent changes causing mass panic. As long as the people who own expensive TT rewards keep level heads and don't panic, there will be no drop. The drop will only come from people who panic and sell low. The people who sold the wolf masks are probably the reson that this happend. The blame also falls to the people who panicked and allowed all teh masks to follow suit. Of couse with teh game being populated by little kids, the panic was probably justified, and the older people would realise the little kids will panic and may even start the whole event. The prices are determined by peoples confidence in the value of the item just as much as supply/demand dictate prices. Faith is somethig most people forget about in economics, but when push comes to shove, faith can cause far more drastic changes than anything else. The Global economic situation is a great example. Iceland banks ALL wen't belly up because of a lack of faith after coming clean with the fact they had suffered extreme losses. This means Icelandic currency is useless on the global market, and probably just as useless in Iceland itself. [/hide] Its a good explanation, but I don't think those masks were just expensive for the sake of it. Masks were pretty rare because not many people did level 2s for money. It was rare that one was sold to the GE every day. Not many of them were created daily, thats for sure. Thats why they never came down. 3rd age was always rare but not as expensive as it is today, too... so I don't know. The chances that 3rd age will drop is very low though. There is a high demand for 3rd age in the GE because many want to sell party hats and other high cost junk... but mainly partyhats. I don't know about other TT rewards being so popular, though. Third age is very very rare -- 1/10000 drop rate from a clue apparently. There are 12 different pieces of 3rd age or something, right? This means the chance for a specific 3rd age item is 1/120000. So each piece of 3rd age armour is INSANELY rare. This means even if people did panic it probably wouldn't drop. But you're right, people selling wolf masks probably caused this to happen. Yeah, the confidence in an item definitely determines a lot though. That's why many people when holding an item thats in low supply in a large amount sell early and cause it to drop. This has happened a lot to the price manipulators because many dump the item after about 1 update, guess thats a good thing more than a bad thing though. [hide=soma2035 quote] [/hide] Indeed party hats collapsed due to the flow of money becoming slower. I believe staking put a lot of value on the party hats... but the fact that you could profit off buying low and selling high through an actual trade made it a lot better. People could sell at a firm price without causing it to drop but now theres GE limitations that also make PHats look a lot worse than they would be today. Also, the new equipment is definitely making party hats pointless. You've got godswords, the new spirit shields, and many other things. Some things such as dragon full helms and third age are things you can actually use to show off. Skilling has become a lot more of a popular thing now too. Many people would rather raise their skills rather than show off a party hat. Skills are something you actually can use, and especially with the new grand quest coming, there could be even more. There are so many more high level updates to skills nowadays -- things like Inferno Adze and all. Skilling is more popular than ever now, even with spending money. And there are also many high-cost methods of training for very fast exp that people do now, too. Party hats definitely won't crash forever. But they will not stop crashing for a long long time. People don't want them without 3rd age right now. Wolf mask was destined to crash, but I didn't expect EVERY mask to drop. I knew, 3 days ago, they were gonna crash as they were buyable at max instantly. I didn't see every mask dropping, though. Masks were quite rare and were raising quite often in the GE. Many people started to use them to get rid of their junk. With PvP updates, a LOT of high cost junk was being created, with all the noncorrupt armours and a few noncorrupt weapons being junk...DFH being junk... a lot of low cost junk being created as well. People started selling masks for lower because people didn't want higher cost junk -- the reason being that low cost junk could be used to lend out godswords. But yeah, I guess people didn't really use masks. I did see some people go around in them. But the high cost causes many people to be lazy and not want to buy it to make an outfit with it. Someone earlier said cat mask looks good with 3rd age range. 3rd age is treated specially. You can use it in combat and it doesn't degrade... you can actually show it off when slaying and all! Its also got a nice look, making many outfits able to be made out of it. But most 3rd age is used to sell phats nowadays. People buy 3rd age with a party hat too, getting even more out of the buy. Party hats, lots of people still respect them. But people have more demand for other items. Masks definitely were collected for the purpose of junk trading -- I used mine to sell my Zuriel Robe Top, though I had that mask for a couple weeks before I had that robe top. 3rd age will be very gradual in lowering of value. As I said earlier, 1/10000 for a piece of 3rd age -- 1/120000 for a specific piece. I'm pretty sure that a jmod stated its 1/10000 for 3rd age item; thats where I'm getting the number from. [hide=Omali quote] [/hide] They just started crashing yesterday. Look at world 2 -- they were being junk traded for 10m+ depending on the mask, now they're being used as junk. You'll see soon -- THe GE hasn't updated for 34 hours, so it will update soon. It has to update within the next 6 hours (40 hours is the longest the GE can go without updating). Thats when its gonna start dropping.

NOTE: I am not 100% sure if this has ended, but I'm 95% sure it hasn't. Just yesterday, for no apparent reason, animal masks crashed to become trade price -- or even lower. It happened very suddenly. About 6:30 pm EST, all the masks were moving at a normal rate. I check again at about 10:30 PM... everyone is selling masks for trade price or lower! Some are even using them as junk! Kinda ironic, considering about 4 hours before they were being traded with junk. The weirdest part is that this happened pretty much out of nowhere. The ONLY thing that could be linked to this is the fact that Wolf Mask started dropping in the GE. Did that 1 mask falling cause everyone to go into a mass panic and sell their masks? Who knows. Its the most logical answer I have. And according to many people I know of, this was the case. Is 3rd age destined to crash soon too? Many people have paniced now that masks are crashing as well, and many are expecting 3rd age to be the next big thing to crash. If a 3rd age item starts falling, will they all start to crash, even with 3rd age's current rarity? And why did people panic so much that wolf mask was falling? One mask starting to fall doesn't mean another is gonna fall too. I never saw wolf masks being junk traded like ever. All I ever saw was bat, cat, penguin, and sheep. Now probably the least traded mask is the cause of a massive crash? However i don't think the owners of masks are the only people that caused this. No one wanted to buy masks anymore cause of the wolf mask falling as well, I believe. And that might have been why people paniced and lowered their trade prices -- there was hardly any demand for masks at a high price anymore. Theres a lot of discuss here, but please refrain from the flaming about junk trading (no "gf junk trades" or "gf scammers" etc.) so we can actually keep this a discussion, not another argument about the nature of junk trading being a scam or not, cause I've seen many many threads turn into that. And sorry, I tried to summarize it, but its not easy for me. I'm not a very good writer. It'll be easier for me to respond to people. I'm not really a good conversation starter, lol :lol:

Nor is it logscape, orescape, barscape, bowscape, bonescape, seedscape... I could go on and on. Maybe they'll release like 3 prequests to it and then the big quest all at once so that the big quest will be the 150th. Heh, idk. Looking forward to it, even though I probably won't be able to do it >.<

Dharok's has become popular because of the fact that you hardly lose anything when you die. Most dharokers depend on luck for their kills. Now, people that fight in whip and rune have to risk a lot more than they used to. Well, not have to, but its a lot more efficient. They can no longer use their torsos -- so they use rune plates. Extra 60k. Rune Defenders are quite a hassle to get, but they aren't exactly necessary. I see people using rune kites a lot more now -- extra 40k-50k. No fire cape -- well, no loss there, really. And there was always rune legs and zerker/nez helm, no change there. Dharok's... you gotta risk at least 75k unless you're an idiot now. Back then people wouldn't fight you if you didn't bring a dscim at least because otherwise they would get nothing. Now they can just take 75k junk in arrows and equip it -- no inventory space used. If items that are untradable, such as torsos, fire capes, and defenders become able to be picked up again, then the sides will be a lot more even. The number of people fighting in rune and whip will be a LOT higher. But right now, when I pk in whip + dds + venging I risk about 250k-280k per death. I could lower that to about 200k-230k per death using a strength ammy... but I prefer the glory. But if untradables become able to be picked up on death again, then I could lower that to about 120k-150k. That evens up both sides a lot more, and dharokers can't really complain because they hardly lose anything themselves. The people that 1 item, 3 item, and 4 item are complete idiots. You'll only find people like them in a place like falador or camelot or lumby. All the fights these days happen at varrock or edge. And tabs are the new nonwilderness. It's how people get around the whole 10 second safe timer -- tabbing to house and/or to lumby. Any other tab is really not smart to use -- theres a lot of people that camp at each tele spot in ahrims now. And its gotten them a LOT of free, easy kills. The ags rushers are idiots... I actually have only seen like 2 people get killed by a rusher so far. But in my opinion... bring back the ability to pick up untradables when you die. The only problem is that clans will start camping at the tele spots and blocking people for capes, rune defenders, etc. But I believe its gonna help the popularity of pking if Jagex does this. Pking was never THAT popular though -- there were only like 3 or 4 worlds often used for pking in old wilderness in p2p and all.. But I still find pking fun right now. Gah idk I'm confusing myself right now.

All the armour and the staff are as bad as junk as Blessed Spirit Shields. Only the corrupt armours sell right now... and I think the regular spears, longswords, and javelins. I pked a Zuriel's Staff, but I could not sell it at all. I go to world 2 and I see people selling it for pure junk... tried to get rid of it.. traded for z robe top + cash.. ended up just selling it with my penguin for like 13m, which is pretty cheap for a penguin. However, high cost junk isn't liked, so if I wanted to sell my penguin for about 20m, I would need to sell my zuriel robe top for lesser junk like addy arrows p++ and all. And nobody wanted to do that. I do disagree with the DFH drops though. They are just way too common of a drop. I haven't seen a single GS... no treasure trail stuff... none of that. But getting a DFH or Visage used to be some of the rarest items and now they are dropped way too commonly through PvP. Well... DFS is still going strong, actually. So nevermind that one. But DFH was insanely rare... I'm sure it was rare to even see one drop daily. Now a few drop everyday in PvP... I've had like 3 friends get one already. DFH's rarity and value is really badly lowered from PvP now. I definitely agree with making DFH drops corrupt and stop dropping regular DFH's. It makes the drop still have value while keeping the regular DFH's the rarity that they should be. 3hitm4g3u: or their luck, depending on how you look at it. BUt thats not the point. The point is that DFH has lost its rarity and its value... and is basically a junk item now, actually. As someone said earlier, they're being traded with cat masks, now. It's ruined both sides -- PvPers get a junk item, and killing Mithril Dragons is almost insanely pointless now. If you think junk is a good reward for skill, then you either have a mask or 3rd age.

BSS are quite common, and yes, they are terrible junk. If you buy one, gl selling it back unless you get an animal mask with it. I was one of the lucky ones that sold it in the GE for about 12m, lol. You might wanna try things like Verac's/Torag's Helm and Spirit Shield (non-blessed) for tasks you have to tank on. Spirit Shield is about the same as a Rune Kiteshield and has no range negative. Blessed Spirit Shields are good but expensive and you can't sell it back unless you sell it with an animal mask or something. However, I must say I definitely believe void is better than d'hide and armadyl. At one of my ranging spots, I tested void to be a lot better than d'hide, so much that I'm almost absolutely sure that its better than armadyl as well. D'Hide actually hit less often than Void did, believe it or not. Void not only hit more often, but hit higher. Maybe its cause I'm higher range, though (tested it at 91 range). And it was tested with broad bolts, by the way. Armadyl has an advantage of more defence and more prayer bonus, though. And it can easily be changed up for tanking as well. For tanking with Void, the only options you really have to change are boots and shield. But when it comes down to it, when you're able to use it efficiently, I'm sure void is the best option. This is really a great guide, though. It's about time someone made one. EDIT: You shouldn't need a verac's skirt for dagganoths. I'd say switch the shield for spirit shield if anything, but I've done dagannoths at the lighthouse on a pure before at 10 defence -- the only ones that really can hurt are the meleers. There are like 3 safespots in the chaos tunnels for gargoyles. I can't take pics and post right now, but I know theres one toward the northeast side (between 2 bushes), 1 somewhere in the southwest, and I believe theres a safespot if you stand between the two mushrooms north of the rope. It would probably be best to range goraks in GWD -- theres loads of safespots for them there. Or you can kill them while they're fighting :P And why is theo praying mage against a mithril dragon when ranging.. range pray would be a lot more efficient I'm sure. You've got plenty of mage defence... why not use it?

I have also used the energy saving tips that Bedman suggested for a long time. For prayer, I started out bringing Proselyte Platebody and Monk Robe Bottom. However, I now bring Proselyte Platebody and a God Mitre. This is because I have more magic defence with this when luring, yet I have the same prayer bonus and weight. Less damage taken... and I have 31 kg weight. Maybe thats a little much for someone under 70 agility but it works for me. I use most of the prayer saving tips Bedman uses too. But I don't do the boots of lightness or the water staff. You sacrifice 10 mage bonus and save 60 gp per cast. That 10 mage bonus could help you hit a lot more bursts. It also makes it a lot easier and a lot less click intensive... and you have a lot higher chance to yellow click by accident or accidently attack with staff when using water staff. 9 lobs on you all hitting a max of 11 at the speed of darts = very very dangerous. Ancient staff is probably more efficient and a lot safer. If you have a space, from best to worst is what to pick up: Ranarr, Kwaurm, Uncut Diamond, Dwarf Weed, Water Talisman, Fire Talisman, Earth Talisman. I'm not exactly sure -- I'm trying to remember prices off the top of my head which is kinda fail. Uncut ruby might be in there somewhere. Of course if you get a dspear or a left half or a key half... take em. Nice guide though I must say.

Not to mention -- you can see a little bit of the Ancient caverns from Saradomin God Wars... or what looks like it, if you stand on the south side of it... Theres definitely a lot of speculation on this... any of this could be true... none of it could be true.. all of it could be true. Imo, lucien finds stone, power goes all corrupt or w/e, and RuneScape goes boom. Then Jagex starts promoting this new MMORPG called "Real Life" :o Nah, I really don't know.

I've seen obby rings in action -- they own. Doing good combos with rune knives is really really hard because of the speed they fire at. But they are decent. However, rune knives are also very inaccurate. And funny enough... obby rings are cheaper than rune knives. Then again, so are dragon darts. I'd recommend the obby rings if you can buy them... they're accurate and powerful... and 1 handed.

Think he meant ghostly warriors vs armoured zombies... not zombie monkeys vs armoured zombies.

A LOT of it comes from monsters. Think about it -- we've got how many members worlds? I'd say at least... 70? Now think about how many things people kill that drop rune stuff. Quite a few people alch it but quite a few don't. A lot of it nowadays isn't being alched anymore, but rather put in the ge. Rune scimitars are up to 30k each now... which is like twice their alch value. We have Bandos, Zilyana, Fire Giants, Zamorak Warriors, Cockroaches, Nechryaels, Mummies, Gargoyles, Lesser Demons, Greater Demons, Spiritual Warriors... the list goes on and on. I'm sure that thousands of rune items are dropped by monsters every single hour that are not alched.