Another thing, i fear ppl forget, is that the days of runescape updates, are closely coming to an end, Jagex will move on to another game, and they will still keep runescape open, but i bet instead of updates every week it'll be bout every month. (Not exactly true, just a theory i have) But i beleive that full dragon will never come out, I also beleive that jagex updates will get more silly, and less originial as the game goes on. Also, jagex never denied the existence of the Whip, but the fact that the special always hit its max, first they denied it, then said it was supposed to be that way, then said it was a bug and changed it.