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You'll lose a bucketload of money, I do not recommend world 16 airs. The abyss is a great moneymaker, but unfortunately not for level 3's. If you could possibly get your defense to 40, which would also train you hitpoints some, you could be a runecrafting pure and wear full rune for melee protection. When using the abyss you are shooting for either low or really high combat, because most rc pkers are medium-low level. With 40 defense the abyssal monsters won't hit you as much, you'll still have a nice low combat level, and there will be virtually no pkers. Although, I'm not sure if you want to come out of level 3-dom. It's entirely your choice.

I am dissapointed in jagex. I have found a couple other player moderators who have been rude/disrespectful, but to break the rules? What was jagex thinking when they hired this guy? I hope jagex isn't going quantity > quality when it comes to choosing moderators. There seems to be a mass recruitment of p mods these days.

Where exactly do you get your information? That's entirely incorrect. Nearly every pker I have met while abyss crafting has been decent-mannered. They do not go beserk when I get away, nor do they start cussing at me when I use the skeleton trick on them. They are mature, understanding people who just want to pk. You're mixing them up with RSOF ranters. In response to this thread: If you have a one-click teleport and a good magic defense bonus you're basically invinsible. If you get teleblocked you just run to the mage, if you get snared you just teleport away. If you get iced, you teleport away. If you get ddsed you usually just run to the mage, sometimes teleport. There are also many other strategies you can use, like using the skeletons for protection. I've crafted hundreds of natures and have only died once. Take advise from kickbuta also. I do not think encouraging people to kill rc pkers will work. You can continue this thread, but if you really think about it they will just come back and eventually people will get bored of the idea. You cannot and will never be able to completely eliminate rc pking. A runecrafter should accept that he/she is entering the wilderness and expect pkers to try to kill them. Rc pkers barely affect the nature market. Sure most of them use natures to train magic, but honestly not everyone who uses natures to train magic will pk.

Another great victory for Corr :) You call this a miniwar? 333 opts!? :shock:

I always love to see huge battle reports, exciting for me even if it's just reading. :P Good job Corr :mrgreen:

Nice non-constructive comments. Nice non-constructive flame. So why are you still here? If you hate tip.it so much then stop posting on tip.it and go back to RSC. I may not be an active clan-world expert, but hell I've been a tip.iter for two years and I know how tip.it works. And if there's anything I've learned about tip.it is that the staff learns from their mistakes. We made a huge mistake, I can admit that. But are we going to do the same thing? No, we're not those idiots on RSOF. We're going to review our mistakes, fix them, and take back our clan community.

You included how much it is to alch but that really isn't enough. As a battlestaff maker you should know they are quite annoying to make. You have to gather a bucket of sand, one seaweed, use the seaweed on a range, use the bucket of sand and seaweed in a furnace, use a glassblowing pipe to make an uncharged orb, buy the battlestaff(should I mention there are only 5 maxium in a world, which makes buying in the hundreds a huge pain?), charge the orb, attach it to the battlestaff, and finally alch it. And if you plan on buying the uncharged orb, good luck, it's a rip-off 1k each on the forums and rising. Not only that, the empty battlestaves cost in the thousands, and you need to buy the pure ess to make or buy cosmics, as well as the Paddewa teleport runes.

Suggestions for making the map better: [*:6g98eth0]Don't use just boxes, make pentagons, hexagons, sexagons, octogons, nonagons, you name it. [*:6g98eth0]The fuzzy boxes are annoying to the eye. A simple double-pixel outline would do alot better. [*:6g98eth0]Make the colors brighter, that includes the text. Having dark/medium colors on a background like that makes them hard to read. [*:6g98eth0]Try a more appealing font. The font right now is a hard-to-read stretched fuzzy bold font. Try something like Arial or Tahoma(not times new roman though, that's way overused). [*:6g98eth0]Zoom out on the map to include the phat section just north of the whips outside the actual city

Wow, I just finished reading it. Once again, awesome guide! Jam-packed with information and pictures! You've actually inspired me to train herblore! No longer will herblore be my second lowest skill! :P

Sorry about that, if you want I can ask a mod to delete that post and I can just make another below the second part.

I see I have a few suggestions already. I'll review them and include them in the guide if I think they work.

Incredible, simply incredible. The guide is jam-packed with information, pictures, calculations, and tips and hints. I am just on part 4, scanning it, and plan to read more, but I felt I really needed to comment. Already I have found 5 things I did not know about herblore, including that you can get 1.2k tar per hour. :shock: I expect there will be a lot more when I continue reading the last parts. Once again, awesome guide, really one of the best ones I have seen on tip.it. EDIT: I noticed your guide just cut off. A post can only carry 50k characters(with spaces I think), so I guess you should make another post below mine(sorry for the post!).

I've known it for a long time. It's not like I'm into bot making, it's just one of those things you know. :|

Haha, but I don't think that would work. I think the programmers are smart enough not to run the program on identifying colors. :wink: I do admit though I would all those free arrows and whips :P

GUIDE UPDATE 8/3/07 [*:2h0pd8me]Complete spell and grammar check [*:2h0pd8me]Complete re-do of guide to look more professional [*:2h0pd8me]Unecessary parts removed [*:2h0pd8me]Item dictionary upgraded with more items, now sorted alphabetically for easier use [*:2h0pd8me]All item appearances updated with current picture [*:2h0pd8me]All single item images resized to 37 by 37 [*:2h0pd8me]New tips, hints, and easier to read maps [*:2h0pd8me]All pictures upgraded to fit current graphics change [*:2h0pd8me]UserÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s suggestions reviewed and added to guide Hope you enjoy the update everyone :) FUTURE UPDATES [*:2h0pd8me]Equipment to be updated to outfits from most lightweight to best magic defense bonus, plus comparing outfits [*:2h0pd8me]Super energy calculations and tips [*:2h0pd8me]Information concerning law making and other runes

Glad you enjoyed it. :

I think this is a little more realistic. Honestly though I think dranor is closer by a hair. Sometimes though it depends on which dock you are departing from. :wink:

Well to me it is, there are already a countless number of errors I have found just from scanning over the first few sections. :( How silly of me that I forgot to mention games necklaces! And to think all these months of this guide being up and me using them I never actually put them into the guide. #-o Thanks for reminding me, I'll add that to the to-do list for the update. :) Thanks for the offer, but I'd rather make my own picture, if you'd understand.

Thanks for the positive feedback everyone :)

I know, I put that under the alternate clothing. Also- thanks spat. :P

[u][b]Introduction[/b][/u] Ever been mad at those pesky bots? Want to get your revenge on them [b]without[/b] entering the wilderness to kill those green dragon autoers? You can still have the satisfaction of watching them die by killing flax autoers! ThatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s right, like killing yew tree autoers you lure them into an aggressive monster. Read on to find how you can start killing flax autoers today! [u][b]Requirements[/b][/u] [list][*]Three or more friends including yourself who are 55 combat or above [*]Necessary equipment(see below)[/list] [u][b]How it works[/b][/u] Most flax autoers work on a program that identifies certain colors in the game. Once the program has detected the colors green and cyan(the colors of a flax flower), it will click in that square(clicking on the flax flower) and will repetitively click until the two colors disappear. You can use this program to your advantage. If you dress up like a flax flower, with green and cyan, you can [b]actually[/b] make the autoing program [i]think[/i] you are a flax flower. And what happens when the program detects these colors? They click in that spot, and since there is no flax flower actually there, the autoer will simply walk onto your square. If you continually move in a direction, the autoer will follow you because the program still thinks youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re a flax flower. It is very hard, though, do to this with one person. If you try to do it alone you will have a lot of trouble trying to get the autoer out of the field. The program detects that you are only one flax flower, and there are many in the field area, so the program wonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t always go after you if you are alone. [u][b]Equipment[/b][/u] [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/4064/equipmentwq6.png][/url] To look like a flax flower youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll need some good equipment. The two colors you are mainly looking for is a pure cyan and a darkish green. [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/8356/fremmyclothesshopbq7.png][/url] [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1525/pricesgreenrobeseq1.png][/url] Green robes can be bought in the fremennik clothes shop. To access the shop you must have completed [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2quest_id=79]fremennik trails[/url], but anyone can wear them, quest or not. If you havenÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t done the quest get your friend or someone else to buy you a pair. A cyan cape is also a good tool, get that from the shop too. [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/8013/gnomeclothesshopir4.png][/url] [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5968/gnomechoppriceszh6.png][/url] Next, go to the grand tree shop. This shop sells cyan hats and boots, good attire to trick those autoers. Purchase both of these. As for the gloves, ice gloves will work the best. They are the perfect tone of cyan. Of course, you will need to complete [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2quest_id=56]heroÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s quest[/url] to obtain these, and they are untradable. If you have lost them you must kill the Ice queen again. If you cannot, for some reason, obtain these items, here are some alternatives. Note, though, that the equipment above works the best. [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=1769]Cyan gnome hat[/url] > [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=2546]green fremennik hat[/url] [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=2986]Green fremennik top[/url] > [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=1298]green dragonhide top[/url] > [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=3657]cyan gnome top[/url] [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=1412]Cyan fremennik cape[/url] > [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=186]green fremennik cape[/url] [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=2063]Ice gloves[/url] > [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=3307]green fremennik gloves[/url] [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=58]Green fremennik bottom[/url] > [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=2609]green dragonhide chaps[/url] > [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=1768]cyan gnome bottom[/url] [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=348]Cyan gnome boots[/url] > [url=http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=867]green fremennik boots[/url] [u][b]Procedures[/b][/u] Once you and your friends have all their equipment ready, head on over to the flax fields in SeerÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s village. Your objective here is to lead one or more autoers to the bat area just south of the flax fields. These bats are level 27 and aggressive to anyone under 55 combat. This is why it is necessary your friends do not have below 55 combat. Here is the path you should take to the bats from the flax field: [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1403/mapxt2.png][/url] [color=red]Red: Path[/color] [color=purple]Purple: Area where autoer will be attacked[/color] [color=olive]Yellow: Bats (level 27)[/color] [list][*]To start, stand in this position: [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3515/standingpositionyh1.png][/url] [*]Get your friends to stand south of you. It doesnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t matter if they are on top of one and other, just get them a few squares spread out south of you. [*]Eventually an autoer will detect several flax flowers outside the field and walk towards you and your friends. Most autoers will walk, rarely any of them are programmed to run. If youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re lucky you might score more than one autoer. [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2381/standingposition2os0.png][/url] [*]Now, using the map above follow the red path to the purple area. To do this slowly inch yourself forward a few squares along with your friends. Do it slowly only inching a few squares every few seconds. If you go to fast the autoer will run back to the flax fields. [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7692/leadingautoer1hz1.png][/url] [*]Try to stay within three squares of the autoer. Sometimes if someone is not close by the autoer, he/she will run back to the flax fields. If this ever happens just try again. [*]Have one friend behind the autoer at all times. If the autoer makes a run for it, your friend might have a chance at stopping him. [*]ItÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s okay to have some friends on top of each other, but itÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s more effective if you have your friends spread out a little. [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5238/leadingautoer2yx5.png][/url] [*]Now, once you have hit the purple area you should be in range of a bat. There are usually one or two bats flying around the northern area. [*]Now slowly lead the autoer to a bat. If the autoer is close enough to the bat, the bat will start attacking it. [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4292/batattackinghh0.png][/url] [*]Most autoers have auto-retaliate on. In this trick we use that to our advantage. [*]At this point have your friends completely surround the autoer while the bat is attacking. The bat should easily over-power the autoer. If the autoer tries to make a run for it, he will most likely be stopped by your friends and come back to the fight, thinking there are several flax flowers in the area. [*]Some autoers have been known to run back to the flax field at half health or below. Try not to get too frustrated if this happens, just get another autoer and try again.[/list] If all goes well, you just rid the community of one more autoer! :D [url=http://imageshack.us][img=http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5394/autoerdeathmh0.png][/url] I suspect autoers will eventually catch on to this plan and adapt accordingly. But for now, have fun killing autoers! :mrgreen: [u][b]FAQ[/b][/u] [b][i]So dressing like a flower really works?[/i][/b] [color=red]It might seem like an odd way to kill an autoer, but yes this really does work![/color] [b][i]What about guthix book? That's green.[/i][/b] [color=red]What I listed in the equipment was your basic easy-to-get clothing(well except ice gloves, but they are the only cyan gloves around). I'm sure there are several other options for clothing out there.[/color]

Introduction Ever been mad at those pesky bots? Want to get your revenge on them without entering the wilderness to kill those green dragon autoers? You can still have the satisfaction of watching them die by killing flax autoers! ThatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s right, like killing yew tree autoers you lure them into an aggressive monster. Read on to find how you can start killing flax autoers today! Requirements [*:2ohigjz1]Three or more friends including yourself who are 55 combat or above [*:2ohigjz1]Necessary equipment(see below) How it works Most flax autoers work on a program that identifies certain colors in the game. Once the program has detected the colors green and cyan(the colors of a flax flower), it will click in that square(clicking on the flax flower) and will repetitively click until the two colors disappear. You can use this program to your advantage. If you dress up like a flax flower, with green and cyan, you can actually make the autoing program think you are a flax flower. And what happens when the program detects these colors? They click in that spot, and since there is no flax flower actually there, the autoer will simply walk onto your square. If you continually move in a direction, the autoer will follow you because the program still thinks youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re a flax flower. It is very hard, though, do to this with one person. If you try to do it alone you will have a lot of trouble trying to get the autoer out of the field. The program detects that you are only one flax flower, and there are many in the field area, so the program wonÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t always go after you if you are alone. Equipment To look like a flax flower youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll need some good equipment. The two colors you are mainly looking for is a pure cyan and a darkish green. Green robes can be bought in the fremennik clothes shop. To access the shop you must have completed fremennik trails, but anyone can wear them, quest or not. If you havenÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t done the quest get your friend or someone else to buy you a pair. A cyan cape is also a good tool, get that from the shop too. Next, go to the grand tree shop. This shop sells cyan hats and boots, good attire to trick those autoers. Purchase both of these. As for the gloves, ice gloves will work the best. They are the perfect tone of cyan. Of course, you will need to complete heroÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s quest to obtain these, and they are untradable. If you have lost them you must kill the Ice queen again. If you cannot, for some reason, obtain these items, here are some alternatives. Note, though, that the equipment above works the best. Cyan gnome hat > green fremennik hat Green fremennik top > green dragonhide top > cyan gnome top Cyan fremennik cape > green fremennik cape Ice gloves > green fremennik gloves Green fremennik bottom > green dragonhide chaps > cyan gnome bottom Cyan gnome boots > green fremennik boots Procedures Once you and your friends have all their equipment ready, head on over to the flax fields in SeerÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s village. Your objective here is to lead one or more autoers to the bat area just south of the flax fields. These bats are level 27 and aggressive to anyone under 55 combat. This is why it is necessary your friends do not have below 55 combat. Here is the path you should take to the bats from the flax field: Red: Path Purple: Area where autoer will be attacked Yellow: Bats (level 27) [*:2ohigjz1]To start, stand in this position: [*:2ohigjz1]Get your friends to stand south of you. It doesnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t matter if they are on top of one and other, just get them a few squares spread out south of you. [*:2ohigjz1]Eventually an autoer will detect several flax flowers outside the field and walk towards you and your friends. Most autoers will walk, rarely any of them are programmed to run. If youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re lucky you might score more than one autoer. [*:2ohigjz1]seph_ir_oth has informed me that he believes actually standing a couple of squares just north of that position will work better. This is untested though. [*:2ohigjz1]Now, using the map above follow the red path to the purple area. To do this slowly inch yourself forward a few squares along with your friends. Do it slowly only inching a few squares every few seconds. If you go to fast the autoer will run back to the flax fields. [*:2ohigjz1]24_7_ko has informed by that shouting "cyan: flax" and "green: flax" ingame will also help. [*:2ohigjz1]Try to stay within three squares of the autoer. Sometimes if someone is not close by the autoer, he/she will run back to the flax fields. If this ever happens just try again. [*:2ohigjz1]Have one friend behind the autoer at all times. If the autoer makes a run for it, your friend might have a chance at stopping him. [*:2ohigjz1]ItÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s okay to have some friends on top of each other, but itÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s more effective if you have your friends spread out a little. [*:2ohigjz1]Now, once you have hit the purple area you should be in range of a bat. There are usually one or two bats flying around the northern area. [*:2ohigjz1]Now slowly lead the autoer to a bat. If the autoer is close enough to the bat, the bat will start attacking it. [*:2ohigjz1]Most autoers have auto-retaliate on. In this trick we use that to our advantage. [*:2ohigjz1]At this point have your friends completely surround the autoer while the bat is attacking. The bat should easily over-power the autoer. If the autoer tries to make a run for it, he will most likely be stopped by your friends and come back to the fight, thinking there are several flax flowers in the area. [*:2ohigjz1]Some autoers have been known to run back to the flax field at half health or below. Try not to get too frustrated if this happens, just get another autoer and try again. If all goes well, you just rid the community of one more autoer! :D I suspect autoers will eventually catch on to this plan and adapt accordingly. But for now, have fun killing autoers! :mrgreen: FAQ So dressing like a flower really works? It might seem like an odd way to kill an autoer, but yes this really does work! What about guthix book? That's green. What I listed in the equipment was your basic easy-to-get clothing(well except ice gloves, but they are the only cyan gloves around). I'm sure there are several other options for clothing out there.

Haha, ok. Maybe not a day then, possibly in two days. I was just wondering if I could start a level 3 and get him to 43 prayer in a couple of days, 6k exp per hour with no gp spent sounded awesome to me. I was expecting, though, that it wouldn't be a constant 6k per hour because of pkers. :( One of the qualities a guide writer needs is to accept constructive critism toward his/her guide. I'm glad to see you have this quality, it's one of the most important ones. I hope you expand your guide with more tips and hints. Oh by the way, I could possibly get the required equipment and take a few pictures of it for your guide if you like. :)

Very nice guide, 8/10. I do not see organisation as a problem, I found it fine. Just use bold/underlining for titles and possibly some colors and you'll be ok. For a small guide like this you don't need to worry too much about really profession organisation. Also, take out the part that mentions f2p pkers are ruthless 8 year olds, there are a lot of dedicated f2p pkers out there that can beat up most p2pers any day. I would just say something like "Some Pkers are ruthless, vicious people, especially 8 year old range pures with uber strength." Also, if you plan to expand this guide you need to drop the unprofessional terms. I noticed "8 year old range uber strength pure," you could possibly just refer to them as "range strength pures." There are a few other parts with unecessary CAPS, use bold for them instead. The content is great. Good information, good hints, good facts. Looks like you did a bit of research on this. Good amount of pictures also. The guide doesn't lack pictures yet it isn't flooded with them, good job. :) I would suggest though putting up a picture of the full equipment, that would be a nice addition. I have a question too. If this strategy really gets you 6k prayer experience per hour, and you played 9 hours a day(hypothetically speaking of course!), could you really get 43 prayer in a day? That would be quite amazing with no gp spent at all. EugenyG - People have their own methods of training skills.

Well actually jagex explained the minigame couldn't work. I don't remember exactly, though, if it was a graphics problem, how the minigame worked, ect. It's unlike jagex to include last month's update in a later month, infact to my memory they have never done so before. Once they release something into the behind the scenes, it's either going to come out that month or never. Though I must say again I could be wrong, I'm just asuming that. Though on the bright side jagex kept their promise that the clan chat would be put into the game this year. :)