bedman

I'm sorry but nearly EVERYBODY instantly flicks on prayer when I mage. Seriously, it gets very annoying, for instance when I was trying to max my double stack at duel arena when fighting random newbs. They all flicked on protection from magic as soon as the fight begun and they saw me in ahrim.

Camping is fine, but it's something I personally don't do because I find it boring. I, and probably others, somehow tend to look down on things we don't do ourselves. I guess you'll have to blame me for that. What I dont get though, is people like clifford, who actually say they'd rather do homework than camping, yet they camp there for 100 whip drops and torture themselves.

Obscene, just obscene if I'm brutally honest. care to elaborate? Doubt it. I think people are just making horrible attempts at jokes. I second that. Last time I laughed with 3hitu must have been when I found out he called himself the first "initiate pure" or whatever other term he invented. Now on topic: I define myself as a player that wants a balanced character, wants to train the most efficient ways. Also, I'm pretty greedy so I don't buy things impulsively. I like to think more (analyse, calculate, compare, ...) about how I'm going to train a skill, than actually train it

In a trip using one unicorn I get around 150-250k in drops, and I use around 100k in pots (12 pray pots, 2 super sets)

Very nice and original guide, and nearly within my reach (93 summoning banked). I can confirm an abyssal titan drains the opponents prayer (had one draining mine) but I'm not sure whether it can damage players or not. I've also heard the rumor about scrolls not giving xp, but I cant confirm this. Should be pretty easy to test though.

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Oh. The 100-110 figure is when using karil/void (not much difference), a zammy spear/ss (again, not much difference) and piety. You rarely have to use protection from missiles if you have a unicorn. Even with a bunyip you might be able to keep up because of the raw food drops (scroll ability). If you are maxed melees, you could probably get around 120, but that's with extreme focus and perhaps not including banking time, or at least banking like a machine.

waterfiends versus bursting

100-110 crimsons compared to 140-150 crimsons an hour (+ 70 gold 35 green)

Get dragon boots, helm of neitiznot/warrior/berserker (or black mask if you slay), warrior ring, obsidian cape, verac's skirt (or torag legs but you lose out on prayer bonus) and guthan platebody.

fury, no question. Get a 100k warrior ring which gives about the same combat boost.

Why would you train magic that way ,if magic and summoning can be trained together, with both rates being top lvl (summoning xp/h bursting is best summoning xp in game, mage xp bursting is like third or fourth best xp in game + tons of hp xp, if you want that hp cape too).

I dont know what a "douche canoe" is. I do know you call yourself a "collector of third age".

I didnt make them, they werent worth it. However, prices can have changed in the mean time. I would just stick to G lobs, they're not that bad.

you said no rock lobs, but just do them, seriously. If you're spending that much, might as well get some charms.

Its not worth it, it has been calculated several times, and the loss of speed does not equal the money saved. Once again. DO NOT CHIN IN THE CHAOS TUNNELS. True. Check my guide in siggy, I've calculated it all.

Might change the bandos to verac skirt and proselyte top and pray 10% str, or even piety. Take a neitiznot then for the prayer bonus too (+ str).

Your shield and weapon options are pretty bad. Dragon mace is much much worse than sara sword. Also, using a fally shield is a waste, always use a rune defender, especially here where you need all the attack bonus you can.

What's a RSC bow? :oops:

off topic, but isn't it rilatine (or relatine).

Yeah, i've tried a bit more since then, but never came close again. The funny thing is, I hit it aganist some noob who wasn't even surprised, he just said: "59, nice". Guess he didn't know how rare it is to hit that. Darn, why oh why was I so slow clicking printscrn :(

Go for summoning. It goes hand in hand with magic. I seriously feel sorry for the 2m xp of 90-99 that I didn't bust, I wish I bursted it all. Normally, bursting to 99 magic will fall just into your 80m budget. If you barrage, which actually might be more cost efficient (there are some threads on it, but the data differ, I'd suggest you test them yourself), it will be more, but if you mine rune in the time you saved, you should probably end up with more money. The bursting/barraging should get you a few mill (2-3 I'm guessing) off 99 summoning. I'd suggest filling the gap with waterfiends. Do the bursting first so you can use a unicorn at fiends. You will make around 75-150k an hour there, including the prayer pots you use for piety and super sets etc! for bursting information: check my reply on your other thread.

At the 9 lob spot, doing ice burst: 105k magic xp an hour 140-150 crimsons an hour half of that (70 or so) golds an hour 30 greens an hour blues: ... 580 casts an hour 180 mage xp per cast Golds are MORE cost effective than crimsons. Use them by all means, and use them first (since you've already reached the lvl to make the best pouch from it: barker toads or terrorbirds). Blues are also cheaper than crimsons, and you should use them at lvl 79 on moss titans. I would use your greens on fruit bats since the second is very cheap, and the extra xp for using them on other higher lvl pouches is very small, considering the extra cost. So use in this order: Golds, greens, crimsons (till 79), blues. From then on, try to save crimsons till 85. With save I mean, use crimsons last. Getting 79-85 just on blues/greens/golds is a bit over the top. Using the charms depends on what you make but with a kyatt it's over 2k pouches an hour (2.2 I think). Dont make them into scrolls, you get back less. I think that's about it

:lol: Did you forget that you can pray mage? how on earth can't you get back to that place within an hour?! Heck, I can get back there within one minute. Ever heard of games necklace (and of protection from magic)?

Haha, as if the people playing that much are doing it "to make the most out of their money". Seems nearly a "noble" cause. Trust me, they do it because they are addicted/have nothing else to do, NOT because this game is oh so expensive and they want to make the most out of it. Hell, I would like to hear other people's reactions when they tell me the play less, and I respond to them "Heck, I play 5 euro's a month, I need to make the most out of it, now leave me alone!"