I don't understand why people keep saying this- their melee attacks are far more accurate and hit for more on bandos than their magic attack does on karils, and also, as their range attack is mage based, you will be better protected against that aswell. I'm sure bandos works fine when you can constantly ss flick, but with karils, unicorn easily covers the healing. because bandos gives a strength bonus, or veracs gives a prayer bonus. you can heal enough with soulsplit that you don't even need a unicorn and can use yak if you want. it actually seemed to me that their melee less accurate on bandos w/ turmoil and overload than their magic attack on karils. no hard data here, since it doesn't really matter either way. i just use bandos for strength bonus.