TheAncient

surprisingly, i agree with this post. though i doubt maul will be good because i suspect a shield might be needed for soak or defense.

so just to be clear, div shot up to like a red or something? and ely's still 400m+junk

b/c magic attack also gives magic defense, and most bosses use magic attacks

To kill each boss requries 40kc in its encampment, lol.

i imagine skills like kiting and properly timed running to be valuable for this boss i also imagine having to use multiple combat styles i wonder if augury/rigour could potentially be better than turmoil for this boss

*Boss loses 30K LP* *Boss regains all LP and enters stage 2 of the fight* *Boss loses another 30K LP* *Boss regains all LP and enters stage 3 of the fight* *Repeat for six stages, giving the boss 180K LP* yeah we really have no info on the boss. i don't think there's much of a point in speculating at this point

just to put things in perspective: bandos and arma equipment is about a 1 in 150 drop per item divine sigil and elysian sigil are about 1 in 2000-5000

It's a lot more than 65 range defense IMO. Last I checked, the most profitable method of DKing involved tanking all 3 Kings at once so you can kill them as fast as possible. It'll be much harder to do so without a shield. lol that method is pretty fail. the only time you'd have to tank all 3 kings is if you can't kill supreme fast enough or if you use barrage, which is too expensive to be practical. i get 110kph with cannon off task. that requires me to use no bow whatsoever. the only time you would use a bow is tribing non-cannon, which i also do. 75 kph over 7 overloads. food is basically a non issue (10 brews can last me the whole ~2.5 hours). plus faster and smoother prime kills mean more opportunity to pray range against supreme and ss against rex. this leads to siginficantly more healing over time than some petty 65 ranged defense, or even a divine; when youre ranging prime you should only have spinlopys on you. saying that you need a div or even a cks to prevent damage is like saying you need a primal2h to kill a bat

my hope is that the armor will be somewhat common (in the 100-200m range). combat's main issue nowadays is overpowered weapons so we need LP-raising items to be common. then again we really can only speculate.

shield doesnt matter "as much" = if the cost advantage is significant or if it has huge range i'd be very willing to give up 65 range defense. @dks dragon, how do you know what kind of price itll have lol. we have no idea the rarity of these drops. also it doesnt sound like it's going to be categorically better than ccbow (you can get the same effect as this new item by just using cbow with expensive bolts) so i doubt itll have very high demand

hard to say, there are some places where shield doesnt matter as much (like pvp or dks)

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I don't know, but I have 5. I feel you man. low demand, they only have very specialized uses and eeks is a good substitute

dat box head

i like to think of it as jagex's way of giving us a heads up so that we can do stuff like stock ovls and sell old gear :P

whip, godsword if you dont have chaotics otherwise any chaotic weapon will do fine

Is augury's 20% magic 25% defense boost better for magic defense than, for example, rigour (25% defense boost no boost to magic)

not trolling, if youre referring to edge pking then yeah i admit i don't do it at all because to me it requires no skill and is a joke. but if you look at good hybrids, a lot of them use wolpertinger or yak. either way, again i emphasize - staying alive nowadays mostly reflects good hybriding and soulsplit versus prayer usage, and in some cases uni usage. this is applicable both in w68 clan wars and in good hybriding. back in the day it was basically all about when to eat. knowing when to eat is still important but is no longer the main contributing factor to survivability.

because pvp=pvm? Or do pkers pull out unicorns and bunyips now in fight? lol bring me a old school pker, let him use a full yak of food and fight me with a uni. i can basically guarantee a 70-80% winrate over him. uni + sum pots is the best food in the game. heals as much per slot as a brew and doesn't require attack turns / lowers combat stats. the only reason they arent used is because they raise your combat level and pkers don't like that Neither of those are used, because, yeah, they raise your CB level and the fact that one of you would KO another easily before a full yak of food is used. The healing effect is negible compared to the CB boost. Hell, if a lvl 112 decided to use a unicorn and run around in the wild a maxed player with ovl/extremes would smack the [cabbage] out of him before he could even dismiss his unicorn. Summoning isn't any means a good way of staying alive b/c of cb boost. if you're 138 it doesnt matter anyway. lol. also, summoning tanks and no, if you are fast enough to use uni in addition to pneck+brew+rocktail it's really easy to safe

because pvp=pvm? Or do pkers pull out unicorns and bunyips now in fight? lol bring me a old school pker, let him use a full yak of food and fight me with a uni. i can basically guarantee a 70-80% winrate over him. uni + sum pots is the best food in the game. heals as much per slot as a brew and doesn't require attack turns / lowers combat stats. the only reason they arent used is because they raise your combat level and pkers don't like that

Rose tinted glasses. What we do need is damage reducing armor/higher health (Torva) Lol I just looked up your bh rank and you only have like 500 score so I doubt your 2 big on pking. I've been a pker since I started rs and I've witnessed alot of changes and it was definitely better in the original wild in 05-07 without these weapons that can take off 90% of your health in 1 spec tbh it's just a different skillset nowadays. hybriding, soul split / protect pray usage, unicorn can keep you alive without food for quite a long time.

AHK remember, as long as you stay within the rule of "one button does one action" it should be legal.

true, but it would still take a while to put up all of those runes. probably around like 20 clicks. Exactly, which is why ZMI running probably won't become popular. Which is precisely my point. There are precious few "runners" out there who are going to show the patience to just sit idle waiting for a crafter to cycle through some 20 clicks. It'd be convenient for the crafter, perhaps, but not for the runner. Hell -- it'd prolly not even be convenient for the crafter either ... :unsure: lol then all of us are in agreement :smile: