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It took me a LONG time. I think I got unlucky.. The first 15 were easy but after that it took me about 5 trips down into the deeper area to get the rest. I figured a good strategy for staying down there for ages but it took a lot of time. You get 10k reward.. which didnt really cover my pots used lol. Even if you missed those in the chest you probably got more to get. After killing around 200 of the lancers without a drop I decided to try the ranges and mages etc. It doesnt actually matter -_- but I was losing faith so I thought maybe it did. Just kill whatever you find easiest but I think the lancies/rangers probably drop them quicker than the zombies or whatever was upstairs. Goodluck!

Its a second serving strategy. Not everyone will like summoning and the release of more monsters might keep them around. It also makes it easier for everyone tell to those who dont like the update to "shutup, wait til next month."

Ofcause summoning wont meet everyones expectations you can never meet everyones expectations. I think it will be a pretty decent update though. Farming isnt boring its a very intelligent and thought out skill. This is spoken by someone who doesnt like farming while I can still appreciate it isnt a 'boring' skill. Everyone just has different tastes.. While hunter is complete rubbish and pointless as it doesnt relate to any of the other skills. Anyone who says otherwise should be shot. The only use found for it was when some dude discovered how effective red chimps could be and I still think hunter is limiting when it comes to uses with the other skills. Farming on the other hand is very usefull and fills a skill void that was needed. Although I admit hunter also voids a different void.. its more a.. well I dont want to hurt anyones feelings describing thoughts on this. ..Maybe hunter will have more uses with summoning possibly.. Summoning isnt trying to fill the, "void Jagex created by effectively removing pking, staking and merchanting from the game" They tried to keep pking into the game by creating that minigame, which is hated by most pkers. Merchanting is still possible and I personally dont give a [cabbage]e about merchanters so whatever. Staking has been hit the hardest but it needed to be hit the hardest to stop rwt and gambling addictions. The removal of staking has hit me the hardest when it comes to my gameplay 'fun' and I didnt even stake. It hit me nondirectly unfortunatly. =/ I lost about 10-20m the day of its release and my most enjoyable gameplay became non existant without warning. =/ Opinion is they are dragging this out as long as they can to keep people hooked. As any business would do once they decide to take such a massive hit to the wallet to save their game. ..As for F2p. Meh.. They can have the duel arena its broke anyway. Capes? So what.. lol? *Chucks F2p a penny* *All f2p dash to grab the penny and a huge dust cloud fills the sky, with the cries of NOOB and blood filling vorrock streets* Jagex are 'spin doctoring' alot of things but when it comes to this I honestly dont care. Part of the reason for giving f2p the duel arena was because of the removal of the wild. It was needed for 1v1 pking. These updates did hurt me alot btw and im not happy but your saying summoning is 'expected' to fix all these things when jagex havnt stated this anywhere.. Your setting up a firing line with them as the targets which is kinda unfare.. although I will admit it does sound more fun than the game they have created. :wink: Btw I came a member within about 1 month of being f2p. I barely had any stats and about 100k gp probably. Didnt wanna be a freeloader tbh.

As has been covered already many items such as gold bars have the floor price to help against mass alching. To reduce the amount of gold coins coming into the game. I find it hard to believe they didnt intend this when they set them at alch prices. Gold bars and yew longs were used for bringing gp into the game. In a sense the answer to your question is yes? Im not saying this is good or bad though it could actually be a good thing. It does sound a bit wrong to buy all the materials. I know you still make a loss on half of that stuff but on some of them you can brake even or still make a profit. Either way it still brings gp into the game that otherwise didnt exist. Everything is going to lower or people wont be able to afford the items and everything macroes used to gather is going to rise or people wont bother gathering them. All the other junk leftover is going to sink because who needs pots when you got pc, no pking or dueling etc? Alot less demand but mass amount created from skilling. Gp will still be brought into the game but it will be slightly different from now on. Gp will be brought into the game by people who either gather and make their own stuff or who are willing to make a generous loss to the xp ratio. I am also guessing there are still old ways to alch that brake even or make a profit while others do not. Personally I dont give a fudge I got 96 magic and what the hell is 99 ganna do that 96 cant while skilling. :P

Less choice and freedom makes us use our brains less than already.

Good read. Welldone. I liked it. Btw a good update is a skill requirement over 70 thats usefull. A quest with a requirement of atleast 70+ to even attempt.. An update that has a 70+ skill requirement that isnt replace a week later with something around level 30 that either makes more money, faster xp or both. Grr! lol? Like they did with slayer bow thing or the lummy banks lol? Woot finally a bank in lummy after that long annoying quest!! ....*Week later update: FREE LUMMY LOFT BANK!* \ :XD: ?? :uhh: :wall:

A few Jmods have leaked info. Basically saying that Summoning will be f2p too Personally I don't think it really matters. Jagex are giving f2p summoning, not new quests, not new members items. If they place summoning in between varrock and mortanya: A Souls Bane (No matter how futile the quest seemed), will still remain p2p. Limestone (once again, how little it matters) will still remain p2p. Anyways. I'm just excited about a new skill :D ~Hawt Other sources with the top dog mods indicate the lesser mods were misinformed or talking about stuff they had no knowledge of. It seems pretty solid this skill is only P2P now. Not that I care either. Only quoting because I came back to edit my post above yours. :P

Edit: Removed original Post. Summoning is P2P only so there will not be any taverly changes so original post is pretty moot lol.

It feels like a trek at high levels because you dont actually GAIN anything from it besides the level/Xp. Besides a few skills or benefits that are very high and limited. For some levels it actually gets WORSE the higher you get such as mining. The higher you get the more owned you get by lower levels... So its pretty annoying to level that skill besides to show off or the cash from actually mining perhaps... If they ever bloody released content for levels over 70 it would be more fun. I recently reached level 96 magic so I could use that magic spell book swap. It felt amazing and it was soooo usefull to me because I love having luna switched on. It was a pain due to the limited teleports.. but that 96 magic spell book swap solved all the problems and made it an amazing and satisfying achievement for me. The exact same! satisfaction I felt when I was lower level and achieved teleblock etc. When I achieved.. I donno.. fala teleport. I cant remember that far back though. :P I know this because when I train wc and fm its pretty boring reward wise but while training smithing it seems like I actually gained something from it. Even if items are useless.. theres alot more pride and satisfaction from it. One day jagex might hire someone who can count past level 70.

I believe they should allow the trade limit to be based on the person with highest quest points. ..Its simply impractical to do a trade based on the lower level when you dont even know their qp. There is no highscore for it.. If it was based on the highest on the other hand I would know we could both trade max and I could state that prior to trade. ..As it is all trades default to 3k as I dont know their qps.. ..So I use the GE instead.. ..and wait days/weeks to buy anything at max price.. ..when I am prepared to spend 1000x more what its worth just to save time. Something about the GE. When you need random small items that could literally take an hour to gain yourself but only costs 1k from another player.. Some of these items you buy instantly which is much easier than before the update! While other items take literally days/weeks to buy making it pointless. I am forced to do some tedius task when I rather spend more and lose less money that I could otherwise make. Other people for whatever reason may have a huge supply of the item that might otherwise take me hours reading up guides trying to remember where that silly 'jack petes leg' from 'forgotten quest I did years ago' item is. Grr.. The thing I dislike most in this game is literally spending HOURS of gameplay trying to find some random item. =S Wondering around everywhere! Its very annoying to me.. when I could instead 'buy it' at a higher than average price. I understand this update but this is overly frustrating more than ever now. I few days ago I was put into this situation. I spent 2 hours wondering around trying to find some stupid item digging up guides eh.. I hate boats! Theres too many docks and captains lol.... Otherwords I dont enjoy dong tedius rubbish when I could otherwise afford to skip it. Thats what I trained my account for I thought.. So I could focus more on what I enjoy rather than involving myself with the basics again. Its like a salesman being forced to clean public toilets rather than selling bathroom suites after spending years in nightschool. As for air running I imagine its a real pain giving money when everyone has different qps.. If this was members you would get people anywhere from 3k-30k and what does that mean you pay them? its overly complicated to me. It should be based on the highest. Then all you need to do is get all the quests done and your set. I can understand the limit of 30k but its too complicated to be a feasible form of trading when everyone has different quest points. You cannot adapt to this when the numbers are too odd. It was hard enough trading before but now its just based on 3k or nothing. Anything else is too complicated making qps allowing you 30k pointless to me. It wont help much when trading friends.. nothing much fits 30k.

I think theres a possibility of them providing an aura rather than directing aiding in the skills or combat. Except its summoning and people who train combat expect something to fight by their side.. so I dont know. Seems a bit overkill though to all the existing monsters already released.. Even if it needs charging it only takes a few minutes to kill the hardest stuff and having a little demon by yourside will make it all the easier. I doubt jagex will allow demons to carry your stuff. Perhaps instant bank that needs a very high level using all your charge. Making it rather useless unless your standing near a er.. whatever they called it. Summoning alter thing. An aura wouldnt act much different from your demon to having them directly cut trees themselves though. Its either ganna be them doing it or aiding you by increasing your chances or something. I think your right though whatever way it works im sure it will increase the supplies but I dont think it will completely cover the loss of bots. Only help a little to recover. Especially on the first few weeks when everyone is testing it out. That stock should help alot to recover prices too. Remember many bots were in F2P and we dont know what F2P will be allowed when it comes to summoning. If F2P get any great benefits that will help us members alot when it comes to supplies and recovering from loss of bots. :wink: *Whips f2pers to work* :-w

The song is 'Hi-Gate - pitchin' not Darude - Ecstasy :shame: Album - SPLIT PERSONALITY =P~ Get your music right man! :-w :P *Rocks Head* ..Nice Vid otherwise. Thankyou. Love the song atleast! Haha! :XD:

To the person who asked about that icon thing on the top right of my screenshot. Others have answered but I will also answer personally. It is indeed the swiftswitch icon. SS ftw. No annoying cropping needed! \ Does it for ya. *Jagex bans bazzaminxer* OH f0ck. :XD:

Happy New Year! ..This is a end of a very interesting year to runescape.. ..Next year brings the arrival summoning which will force me to raise my cb level after around 2-3 years. So bye bye 102cb.. Hello 112cb or 117cb. *Sheds a tear* This is a very special screenshot. The last ever level I will gain before summoning is released and my combat level rises. *Sheds another tear* :cry: Im not complaining though lol it will just feel really really weird!! :XD:

Couldnt give half people stuff I wanted to cos none of them have logged in for weeks lol =/ Oh wait.. I havnt logged much either lately. :P Well they wont get their gifts after this then haha.. Hm.. This is going to suck big time. Woah 30k! Gosh! *Puts account on e-bay* JK! They need to release summoning quickly afterwards me thinks!

Its going to be hard to adapt to trade limet. ..I dont merchant. I just dont like being told I can only sell things for a loss. When before I could atleast brake even or make a profit from my skills. I also dont like being told I cant buy a certain item because im 1003432242 in the queue to buying it at the max price. I am forced to wait a month to buy. :shock: Rather just spend 50x the cost and make the cash back quicker than getting it myself. If I learn to cope I wont be enjoying myself as much. I used to plan my skills months in advance, collecting etc. I think now I should plan 6 months in advance just to buy the materials. Thats how I will adapt... Its also disturbing how they have made ridiculous minimum prices for all the most commonly alched items in the game making them redundant. :-s ..Seems they think we are all stupid.

Gah gold bars have a minumum of 210 do they.. Green bodies and gold bracelets, rune longs, rune legs/skirts, phats, etc etc Green bodies price might go up in price due to lack macroes and farmers. I hope people will still do it the legit way for the cash so shouldnt be too' short a supply. There must be other things you can alch but those are the main things I alched when I skilled.. Btw I dont know the prices but perhaps mage longs. They might cost 50kea for all I know though.

Back to mining.. Varrock armour aint too bad. \ Btw a tip for all miners. Play 'Requiem for a dream' it actually fits the animation pretty good and it wont annoy you to watch so much. That songs makes anything feel epic lol! :boohoo:

I cant remember as it doesnt matter to me but arnt they restricted at a high base level they cant fall below.. Might be wrong on this as I dont care. Yew longs might die out or the other items drop considerably such as nats have. Eventually they will probably die out to other items that can be alched if adjustments arnt made. Especially since bots are going.. we see what will happen to gathered item prices soon. We could all say people will alch green bodies instead but if there arnt any people farming them 24/7 who are willing to sell cheap.. well.. who knows. Same with rune ores as there used to be many bots and farmers for those too. Figuring old prices there were many other items to alch with not so bad loss rates and even other ways to train magic. There may be a decrease in alching or there might not. People might suddenly start crafting alot more and alch that junk instead. ...Im 96 magic and possibly 1/4 - 1/2 of it was done from superheating if not more! 8-) The rest was alching stuff I made while crafting/smithing etc. So magic isnt all based on alching even if a large portion of it is. Not forgetting I teleport from place to place a few hundred times a day. :wink:

I havnt mined at the double spawn spots ever since I got bored of having to time them. I found it kinda stressful.. I found the one spawn spots more enjoyable considering its meant to be a game for fun. Its always been easy to mine at these spots without bumping into anyone after many hours if at all. Pretty much always open at less busy times. This update to wild has only made something already easy even easier. Smithing died for me when the duel arena changes came into effect. The only real decent profit you could sell easy in bulk was to stakers.. now they are dead my method is gone. All the other ways usally involve a loss, time consuming, or impractical. Perhaps the only easy bulk method left is superheating the bars and selling them back... Which is usually a lower rune smithers method for raising their levels to something thats capable of achieving more. :-# I feel sorry for anyone wanting to train their smithing, even those who wish to pay for it. Ouch. Hotspot is around 92 mining because lower levels beat higher levels. If you want to beat 99 miners its around 85-92 mining you want. \ So your 99 mining doesnt help you much sorry to say. Evidence to many miners testing of all level ranges including me, the very high and the 99+, even rank number 1. When im mining im scared of all miners lower than me.. Higher miners I laugh my [wagon] off as I take their rocks. :shock: (Im not saying I actually like this but its how runescape spins!) I have seen your progess as you leveled your levels and I know you mined gold. I dont see why you would have to fight much at those spots so you probably not too experienced with rocks like coal or rune where there is usually more competition. Yeh.. Haha.. ah wait. Opportunity cost.. Do'h! Otherwords.. 'wasting your time making stuff yourself that could be sold for more cost.' ..Not saying there anything wrong with the way you do it. But your ARE making a loss by not selling the stuff to begin with..

Now that sounds interesting...If I lived in London I probably would of already done that... Actually, if I lived in London, I would of tried to work for Jagex by now. I thought Jagex HQ was located in Cambrigde? Most americans think 'London' IS 'England' Or maybe he/she simply meant london was near it.. kindof.. so.. could visit there. Passing through london? I live near cambridge myself and meet friends there sometimes. To the OP, I am suprised you even got an auto message. :wink:

An more interesting read that isnt completely wrong but not much to comment on either. Yeh and its true for rl fame too when it comes to my opinion. There might be well known people I like but if I met them in rl I hardly start getting excited or want to be intimate.. If it was my partner on the otherhand we couldnt get eachovers clothes off fast enough. Different kinda fame I guess. I also 'respect' those who have done alot to help others rather than someone who sings in a band and takes drugs. :| Same with alot of players on this game, I respect those who work hard rather than those who cheat and scam. There are alot of famous people who been banned or warned for braking rules and people still respect them. :roll:

Probably make it partially f2p. They can cash in from this and they need new members badly to replace those who have left recently. Members continue to pay to get member benefits from summoning, while non existant players join f2p who might become members later. Btw on the day of release my combat level from 102 will probably rise for the first time in 3 years lol. =S 103 is so ugly a number.. I will have to train it again but combat so boring. =/ Nvm lol.. :XD:

Im glad I havnt claimed from my kingdom in over 6 months. I was going to claim on new year day but I think now I will wait untill summoning comes out because the new eggs might be added to the random nest. Maybe not but possibly! Finally a use for the eggs I already got.. I knew there would be a point eventually. :thumbsup:

Whatever I feel like at the time. If i know they are training for something like 99 fm I might give them some maple logs. If I know they barrow alot and probably prefer to barrow I might aswell give them a few hundred prayer pots. If I dont know I just let them choose a rune item or two they want and I smith it for them.