pulli23

I hope you're not serious here. Rules aren't here to limit people they are here to protect people. No trolling is needed to prevent discussions of getting into a stalemate with emotional arguments and never finding a good conclusion. As I said countles times: if you can't get your point across within the rules here, you should mayb rethink about your point: is it actually good? - I don't have arguments of why it is good. Also not having rules creates an atmosphere where not the one with the best arguments wins: but the one with the most friends. On top of that: if you think many people are in need of a forum which has complete unruled discussion boards, feel free to create one. If there's a "market" for this people will come and it will be succesful, no one is holding you back!

Exp still isn't great. When you add the low charms, effigies, and crappy drops, they aren't really worth it. uhm well they do drop rune arrows and a few more alcheable quite often.. As well as a decent crimson drop-rate.. I'm just stunned you skip them: this means you skip almost everything? - And only do around 5 different tasks? Greaters and the like are even worse profit..

aubury walks I believe? - The idea is to have the flag "visually" in front of the bots, so the bots force a click on the flag.

Speaking only for myself, I'm not sure I agree with this reasoning. If someone cannot update something, then someone else makes a derivative of it - someone that is active and can actually keep it up-to-date - and that essentially becomes the new guide. It happens all the time (surprisingly enough) with guides on other forums, more so with programs and programming projects. Just because someone can't update it doesn't mean it should be removed. I just don't agree with that notion. *slinks back to corner* Except he didn't approve of his guide staying and didn't give permission for someone to make a copy of his work. As the tip.it guidelines explicitelly say, you DO give tip.it ownership to copy. I think it's time you do a little research in the matter and then come back. There are so many statements here which disgust me because they show an utter lack of knowlenge about how IP works. Also not giving permession to make copies, or increase the knowlenge of the guide is morally wrong. As it prefents innovation for the group in spite of personal gain.

You people need to grow up. First of all let me get this clear, the clasule written on the tip.it section doesn't give TIP.IT exclusive ownership & IP over the information you post: it however gives them IP over the COPY of the guide: they can repost it, they can remove it. Having this property is necessary for any forum (or actually any site with user input) as it makes moderating possible (without it a mod can't remove any post unless he can explicitely point it is against a certain rule). And these rules are quite normal, I dare you to find a forum/blog site where there isn't a similar clasule in the end user agreement. Is this fair? - Yes, YOU choose to post here, you choose to use the software tip.it build, you use the network to distribute your information which tip.it build. Writing a guide is only 1 part on getting information across; getting people to read it can be much more difficult (which I think you'll soon experience). This is the reason publishers are so important. So no, you aren't "god" when you wrote a good guide. I've done quite a bit of indie-game development, and a game takes often a lot more efford to polish & create. However whenever you post on a site (any, like yoyogames, kongregate, freegamenow or whatever) you are giving up your IP for that copy. This is completely normal, no one ever makes a problem. So if you think this is problematic: good luck in life.

First of all let me get this clear, the clasule written on the tip.it section doesn't give TIP.IT exclusive ownership & IP over the information you post: it however gives them IP over the COPY of the guide: they can repost it, they can remove it. Having this property is necessary for any forum (or actually any site with user input) as it makes moderating possible (without it a mod can't remove any post unless he can explicitely point it is against a certain rule). And these rules are quite normal, I dare you to find a forum/blog site where there isn't a similar clasule in the end user agreement. Is this fair? - Yes, YOU choose to post here, you choose to use the software tip.it build, you use the network to distribute your information which tip.it build. Writing a guide is only 1 part on getting information across; getting people to read it can be much more difficult (which I think you'll soon experience). This is the reason publishers are so important. So no, you aren't "god" when you wrote a good guide.

because this is Jagex we're talking about. We're lucky if nothing breaks during an update....sure speaks for their competence. What I can't figure out is why does Jagex continue to hire such crappy programmers? #-o No other software-based company I can think of has a track record as bad as Jagex. this is a blatantly false statement. Runescape is surprisingly bug-free for it's size (partially this is caused by JAVA which prevents them having to spent time on more difficult memory management). The software they produce is of very solid quality. What you can discus however is the that the design isn't well thought out; and they should maybe spent some time on getting a software engineer with a good background - to supervise the interface development.

Well for green's idea: would a "list" not simply work? - if it's a quick lookup list (just a wep page with only names) a ctrl+f can so fast find if the person in question is a "member"?

Difference between fury & glory is "neglecteable" (also considering the utlity glory brings). IF you can achieve 85+ herblore with the coins you get that is worth much more than the fury. (Though any lvl below that is "useless")

using normal routes? - yes. Maybe if you finish love story quest you can use chipped house tablets to circumvent this! But I really have to ask: if you have troubles with "Dad", why are you even considering going to GWD?

sorry to hijack, but if you consider dusties bad for xp, you should consider any task where you can't use cannon bad for xp.. At dusties you'll hardly ever miss, so you (near) maximize your slay potential considering only the rapier/whip.

Well I agree with that: but the problem I see also with "randomers" is that they have no "drive" to actually perform well: if they leech they can just leave into anonimity :/.. With tip.iters you're more easily hold them responsible. - The only way I can think off it now is to only join non-guests (and only keep tiffers members), though this is far from ideal (many people want to have another clan as their main). (Just now I see someone creating a dung who I wouldn't join even if I was paid).

hmm with the increasingly amount of "randomers" who join are we going to have some quality control?

does the time difference come from the difference in ticks or something? - Still seems a bit "weird" to me...

it's not free lacking 2 parts of the freedom a user should have!

I mean: making vials of water > unfinished and unfinished > finished potions is the same speed?

The license has explicitelly been stated to be not compatible with GPL. @Low_C: consider this my reply to you to. The new license states explictelly you can't redistribute, grimy will be able to change the data once it is on your PC (DRM). Information should always be free.

Hi there, As grimy decided to go closed source & DRM with his spreadsheets, I'll have to recreate them (and publish under something like GPL or GFDL). However having less experience in the game than most I'm here to ask a few questions: -How many herbs can you clean per hour? -How many unfinished potions can you make hourly? (And I believe making finished potions from unfinished is the same speed). Thanks in advance, pulli23

The problem is that warning somebody for being wrong is not the way things should work. Hell half of the users of the forum would be banned by now for posting wrong information at one point or another. Warning for being wrong is not in the rules and will never be. It is up to the more respectable users to be the 'bigger man' and walk away. If you can disprove their claim in a sensible and non offensive manner by all means do, but if you cannot and their argument is subjective, say so and move on. To you their argument may be 'blatantly wrong', but unless you prove it, they won't know. Danq, the following statement is not intended as a flame or anything. This is directed to the efficiency community. How many of the "efficiency trolls" in the community would cite Danq as a major source of their frustrations, and likewise a major motivation to vent their frustrations on anti-trolls. Raise your hand if you, both support efficiency and consider Danq to be a major instigator of efficiency based flame wars. Not because he actually tries, but because Danq unwittingly says things that are horribly rude and patronizing. And once again, my apologies Danq. I would try to word this differently, but I'm sure we've already spoken on the matter far too many times in the past. With all due respect: but this is baiting for a forum ban. Creating "petitions" like these undermines the ability of moderators to operate, leaving the admins in the split of either banning a large part of the forum or having to fall off their moderators.

Not attention, also money is a bit useless to a point (hence people use expensive methods). So you give an importance factor for each "function". And because the factors are personal efficiency is also a personal thing.

WHY would you need to test the filter?

Where do you live? Last time I went to the bakery a bread was 2.30. - And that's the same price since the start of the year!

I'm studying aerospace engineering.. Here efficiency is always the questions to ask.. However efficiency is nothing without looking at the circumstances: soemthing is only efficient under certain circumstances. If you don't grasp this I will have to keep calling you a "clown" since further discussion is not really possible.. It's like those who are answering (when I ask for the average drop rate of item X): "it's random"; Or trying to discuss fundamental physics (bing bang) with theists.. First of all if you read the OP you would have seen that any comments that are inflammatory towards a persons religious beliefs are against the rules. Im a theist and im offended, mostly because I do undedrstand your "bing" bang theory. Secondly I'm studying exercise science and so I deal with efficiency a lot as well, namely efficiency of movement VO2max etc. So I am well aware that efficiency is determined by its context. Your ad hominim arguements about my intelligence however don't make your point valid. Namely because we all have the same context, that being a game. And the only way to measure the efficiency of something is with definite quantitative numbers. The numbers we have to work with in this game are gp, exp, and time. Trying to incinuate that something like killing green dragons is more efficient gp/hr versus killing TD's for gp/hr on the basis that you lack the skill to do so is nonsensical. Your inability to kill TD's from lack of skill does not change the fact that it is indeed better gp/hr. Don't try to act like efficient ways of playing this game are anywhere close to as complex as something like aerospace engineering. Edit For clarification we reserve the word "best" for describing things that can be measured quantitatively, because on matters of opinion it loses all its capabilites to describe anything. If I enjoy killing lvl 2 men it doesn't make it the best money maker. It makes it my favorite. It is ok to have something that is your favorite that isn't the best, just don't call it the best, call it your favorite. Wait, you know that efficiency is based upon a context.... Yet you don't see the fact that the context also includes what a human can and what a human can not do? Just like choices made by goverments (in the form of taxes) change the fact which plane is more efficient at which country. In runescape efficiency is not only determined with cost & time analyse; As said difficulty (which in runescape itself manifests as possibility to do "spike" loads as well as the ability to continue the method for long times) also is an important factor. You can try to refuse this, but whenever you give advice about what is more efficient you should always take this into account - if you can't calculate it: that is fine but always add the note then: "this method is very difficult, an easier method is ...." so the poster of the question can still determine wether or not the method is most efficient for him. This might sometimes tip the balance in favour of other methods, and unless you can prove it is "ridiculous" you can never completely write down a method to do something. For example IF prayer flashing would become very, very important (ie prayers are needed, yet prayer potion price is many times as expensive as they now are) a person might be more efficient using a longsword (or maul) over the rapier: with a slower speed he would be able to flash his prayers better, leading in less (taken) damage or more dealt damage!

I bought 50k the other day, just to have some in case of need, don't PLAN to use them..

slayer? + why are they used? For non combat magic (mainly lunars) mud staves are best.. For combat magic only very few people use "earth-based" spells.