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Nice one, you've got him cornered :-) Mmm, not quite. You forgot about marginal utility. While one santa hat can be worth 21m, what good is a second unless he is Zaphod Beeblebrox? True, except that the marginal utility of a 2nd santa hat is practically the same as the first one. A rare will not provide extra income (at least not these days) as their primary fonctions are looks (and status) and as investments. Since the introduction of the G.E., all rares have dropped a lot so anyone buying them as investment either wants the looks and status over the cost (or lower value if you will) or believes they have reached the bottom and can only go up (speculation).

I can tell you my santa hat has a value to me of 21m - I will not sell it for less. Once again - what is something worth? I may never sell my santa hat, but I haven't lost anything, 'cept maybe the opportunity cost. What is a market? Its where people get together and decide what they're willing to pay for things. What is a stock worth? Well, whatever someone is willing to pay for it, and someone is willing to sell it for. If a company goes bankrupt, it's stock price will plummet to 0. Why? Its because its worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, and a bankrupt company has little to no value. It would be really funny to see the former CEO of Enron make a speach to the investors saying don't panic even though no one will buy your stock, they have a sentimental value of 1 mil each and you are all rich! The example of a company going bankrupt is the same to a rare plummeting to low value. If noe one is willing to pay that sentimental value of your santa hat, then you have no hope of getting back the GOLD COINS you paid. If you are willing to pay 21 millions for a santa hat, I'll be glad to sell a ton of those. If you are not willing to buy another santa hat for 21 millions, then Santa hats are not worth 21 mil to you. If you are willing to pay market price for a santa hat then, the value of all santa hats to you is market price. And with the introduction of the G.E., the price your willing to pay is related to the market price and the 5% higher and lower.

I am glad I was wearing a god cape at the time. Fire cape would have been a real pain to get back. Yeah when you DC, the grave dissapears. Since then, I got 13k chaos, 9k deaths and 6k bloods from slayer. I'll waste those on 99 magic when I buy back ammy and hat (95 atm).

sleeping bag was for the fatigue system... that was pretty painful.

I was extremely lucky to have gotten those through the G.E. (weeks after its release) and only found out how much they were worth on the streets when I lost them. I have not combat-maged since then (called it RS-trauma!). I might buy them back once the randoms are fixed.

Since those cards or whips will never rise to their initial price, you have no chance of getting back the worth they have to you. So you lost money and that money was exchanged for fun, better training experience and "status". Your bank value has dropped no matter how you value your items. You can balance that lost with the "experience of having that item" brought you, but you cannot possibly tell us that your santa hat has a value of 21m. In finances and accounting, managers have to re-evaluate their assets based on market fluctuations to give a realistic view of the value of their companies and write off assets which value has dropped to zero. No matter how sentimental you may feel towards your first computer, the truth is, it's already lost most of its value. The same applies in RS.

Nicely summarised - 10/10 Now we let the thread die

If Jagex are obvious morons... then you are an obvious cheater. Play by the rules before you come complaining. You gave your password away, you are to blame. Your friend has most likely hacked your account or is dumb enough to have got keyloggued.

That is something that should be upgraded. As well as instant attack familiars. The G.E. friends adding glitch is awful. The morphing tools not stacking in bank is kinda lame. Some G.E. prices are still way incorrect (addy arrows ++ at 1150 gp ...I mean come on). Some items should be given additional uses (nails...why do we get rune nails as rewards when they are nearly useless). The sell 50 feature in-store was nice, a sell 100 or 500 would completly destroy the junk market... or at least get rid of a majority of bank filling items.

The point Compfreak will make is that you could have made more cash and combat xp at armored zombies/aviansies for the cost of all the slayer XP you got. The whole debate is how you value slayer XP. For anyone who wants to max out at 2376 total level, slayer xp will be extremely important. For someone who wants to pk at high combat or team up at GWD, slayer xp might be insignificant.

yeah, I don't look back on classic as being the best era of RS as some on these boards do (mainly pkers I guess). OT : Why max out 200 mil in a skill... the "fame" I guess. Even though with more than 30 maxed out cookers, the point is rather moot. Or total XP, the higher the XP/Hour taking into consideration the cost is what motivate the Uber-Maxed out (2376 total and 600Mil xp +) to get those skills to the limit. Off topic: After the post about the guy who got 200 mil Xp attack on abbyssal demons, I'd love to see the loot of someone getting 200 mil XP Ranged on aviansies... talk about smith XP!

So basically 99-90 is for getting the ringmaster costume only right? Seems like I'm doing already what I should be doing. Just looking for anything that could make agility level faster ....without training it!

I was maging steels a while ago for slayer and I had 3rd age ammy and mage hat equipped... Jekyll appeared and I couldn't talk to him because of the fire breath... I had emptied my prayer ealier so I had no option but to run... I lagged out and ended up in lumby without my 3rd age items... I was very pissed for a long time after that.

wasn't it the blood chest the most profitable? It's been a long time, I'm not sure on that one.

I do my weekly circus mainly for agility XP as I hate the skill. ATM, I usually do every lvl (from 10 to 99) with my 10 sets of emotes for all three skills. As I don't care about the costume and only want the best XP and I don't want to spend too much time there (I'm not gonna wait for thw crowd to give me pointers...) here's my question: To get max XP at the circus, should I just do 99s and 90s with 10 sets of emotes? or keep doing what I do (from 10 to 99 with 10 sets of emotes)? Don't post a link to tip.it's guide, I read it and it mentions the first option as better to get costume, I don't want it, just want the best XP and the guide doesn't say if there's a correlation between costume and Xp rewards...

Seems you liked the post about farming... I will add in the evil turnips - the seeds cost 200 gp each, they don't need payments or compost and never die. End result is something that can be sold for 3k on the G.E. - they are near the beladonna spot west of draynor manor and have a growing time relatively low. If you plan on making super compost, always browse the G.E. to find the most cheapest fruit to use (depending on the mood swings of farmers, calquat fruit and roots are usually the cheapest available).

I see slayer ranged training being good when you "upgrade" to another slayer master and start getting harder task to melee. This is mainly for low-mid and 115 and lower combat. Getting used to your new master and camping the new harder monster in ranged is better in my opinion. Though at some point, you'll plateau and melee will become faster (less food needed, less banking...). At this point, it's time to upgrade to a new master again. Once you reach a certain level combat-wise with either 68 summoning, guthans or SGS, melee will become the fastest methods for slaying.

He used the wrong formula. He gave 1 xp to HP per hit. The right formula would have been to use 1,33 xp to HP per hit. So instead of dividing 50k HP xp by 25, he should have divided by 33,33. That would have given him the same number and he wouldn't have posted it because he'd realised they both give the same answer.

Since your RC lvl is quite low, it's a good idea to craft the rune you will need. Though once you reach 44 RC, it's better to RC nats, sell them and buy cosmics. (more RC xp, more cash too).

Using melee armor to train range is idiotic... It's like taking your car on the railroad... you can do it and it's your choice, but on the next morning's paper they will say an idiot died...

swap that skill cape for a god cape that actually gives you a magic bonus (attack). As for the ring, wealth or mage bonus. It's up to you and your trust in ROW.

the best place to kill them is the ogre enclave. bring a ring of dueling to bank in castle wars. There's plenty of dragons to kill there and much less competition. If you have high agility, then taverly using the short cut is faster though. Unless you have 80-85+ melees I'd suggest ranging them, the trick is to find the several safespots first. These are excellent money for a slayer task, but the counterpart is a slow xp rates as you are banking regularly (hides + bones... or just the hides if you bury the bones). Good luck with those, I'm just sad Duradel doesn't assign them anymore, they were a nice change and a nice profitable task.

Training slayer after 90 is also wasted experience, isn't it? If you were going to get 99 slayer, you're already planning on getting experience that's meaningless except as a status symbol. If that's the case, what's wrong with getting straight 99s in melee, range, prayer, and/or summoning beforehand to achieve the fastest possible slayer xp, and then using slayer to raise your rank in the hiscores? Nothing wrong with that, except you will get 99 slayer (or your desired slayer level) much later than if you trained your combat along with training slayer. It's a matter of choice at this point. Lots of skills are wasted experience past their max achievement if we follow that chain of thought. I.e farming at 85, crafting at 90...