Platinum_Myr

True, but a bit more difficult to steal the mac address of a random person on rs for hacking.. still easily doable if you get keylogged. Two-step verification with a phone is the right solution... Separate device, random code each time. Easy to implement.

My guess is they register mac address, as this is unique per computer for sure, though that can be faked if you know what you are doing. Still it requires an attacker to know the mac address.... But it's still susceptible to remote attack.. Just use a two step verification process >.>

Ofcourse it did, until prices die down as the gear enters the game. Once it's had a while to settle I don't think it will stay the best money maker, but we'll see. At least now there's more different drops so it means more likely to get one of them instead of nothing.

I assume it tests the same way it can tell whether you're on the same computer or not. You can't log in from two accounts on the same computer without spam loading them at the same time..

Which makes it completely useless instead of only mostly useless.

Dungeoneering is basically p2p. It can be done f2p but is a lot faster p2p and also has some extra floors, rooms and puzzles.

Go Go Go

That's a lot of different activities :o

Why the heck does it not just txt a verification code to a cellphone number... :c (and text a new random one each time so you can't keylog) Could even have it able to call a homephone and have automated voice read out numbers... And I wouldn't bother even turning it on if I was using multiple new computers like at libraries all the time

Why did they have to update the player models so badly? >:c

Nope. Unless they slipped it in very quietly two or so weeks ago. Actually yes, they DID slip it in a few weeks ago. That sounds rather dumb. Amg I r maxed combat cause I has 99 summon and 99 def...but I can't kill anything worthwhile cause I am pure and can only wield noob weapons! Going to guess that you haven't seen steel titans demolishing everything they walk across in the beta :P Can't say I have, though with no more 100% protect prayers etc. I still can't see that ending up too well longterm cause you'd suddenly be like 1 hit by most stuff. What part of 99 defense?? You only lose weapons not armor... Yes being 99 summon + 1 defense will be bad but not necessarily being 99 sum, 99 defense.

The amulet names are saradominesque so I expect them to be sara drops.

I disagree. In most cases you have to know precisely how a program works to effectively 'break' it. They knew the methods behind injection and reflection bots, so they designed a way to (temporarily, although they claimed it'd be permanent) break them. However, as expected, a work-around was found and they returned. True, but on a scale, it takes more effort to detect bots than to break them, I would imagine. To reliably detect bots you have to be able to tell that the game input or the server input is a bot and not a human. To break a bot you just have to make it not function. For example, a bot is broken every time there is an update as it no longer functions due to new server code. Yes, this isn't a permanent break but it is a break in the bot for long enough for a human to update it against the new server. It isn't a permanent break, but I don't believe anything is a permanent break. A human can play, therefor theoretically a bot could be programmed to emulate the actions of a human perfectly. We just don't know necessarily know how yet.

I do them, they are worth it, even if I don't remote farm every single farming tick. I rarely end below 50vg per seed after 100 seeds (replanting the scroll of life seeds anyways) If you remote farm every single tick (so you have zero deaths 100%) then you will likely get a ton of profit, (assuming greenfingers 1 + jujus)

Breaking bots is actually more likely to be easier than testing, since bots have to rely on game architecture not changing, where as detecting bots relies on bot architecture not changing. Both are important and banning instead of just breaking is important. But I think breaking is just as important as banning, since it is simpler. (Simpler in that you don't have to know how they work to break them, where as you have to know how they work to detect them)

If you have the ability to opt into it then I would definitely recommend it. If the Botany bay bot nuke is as successful as Jagex believe it to be then the goldfarmers are going to turn to account thefts for their gold stocks. At least until bot developers overcome the new deterrents. I hope they last for a good time, and/or make it not worth the trouble. I personally believe nothing Jagex does can successfully break all bot programs permanently (unless they can keep innovating faster than the developers can work around it). But it might be possible to do something that makes bot developers and gold farmers move to a new game.

I remember herblaw being added...

Yes. However, you can make a decent system using entropy and a key generator. As long as you can protect that key it is stronger than the password because a player is unlikely to copy it to someone else. (and it is much more difficult to bruteforce the key)

Those aren't USB flash drives that they use. Ive said calling them "usb dongles," is misleading. They dont connect to a computer at all. Blizzard, Sony, and Square Enix all use a modified VASCO Digipass drive, which are the best and pretty much the only company who will make deals with game developers. When Blizzard launched the WoW authenticator, they pointed to the price ($6.50) as providing zero profit for Blizzard, due to the cost of getting the dongles and systems from VASCO. That's why the mobile authenticators are free. If Blizzard and Sony don't have the ability to create it themselves, and thus had to go to a third party, I highly doubt Jagex could avoid the same pitfall. If you want a non-mobile authenticator, expect to pay $6-7 for it. That's not the only type of authentication. A good backup method is to use entropy to generate a key value pair that you associate with your account. This could be done with simple software on the device, or stored as a raw binary file and distributed. It would be fairly cheap now, a very tiny flash drive can hold enough data. That extra authentication could be added if a user desired. Password safe software uses this method a lot. I am not sure how secure it is compared to the VASCO system though.

Any good method would require a physical item which they simply haven't wanted to distribute because the physical item costs money to make.

I was actually implying merching, staking, gambling, or getting ridiculously lucky with a clue scroll (things along those lines). I am sorry if that was not intended however those are the only methods I can think of that would provide the gp for nex armors. I am not looking for instant gratification, or saying that slayer isn't profitable. What I am saying is that the price difference between bandos and torva is very high. I choose not to attempt staking or gambling or merchanting because I feel that these would devalue my player experience. Mithril dragons have never been good to me. That is of course just my experience and it isn't based on any evidence. However, I don't want to do a 1-2m/hr task for 200+ hours in order to have nough to purchase the items. I was really only commenting assuming you were referring to merchanting/staking as the source of money. I was wrong to make that assumption.

Or those players can learn to play the game. Money is way too easy to make. I've gone from 0gp to Nex set (with divine) twice. It isn't hard, just everyone wants instant gratification which is not how life works. Not everyone knows secret magic to earn money like you do. Some of us choose not to use methods that we feel would devalue our own experience (and yes I know you can just reply to this with "then gtfo")

But it also seems to be fairly horrible at muting bots. (Obviously the gibberish is the reason)

Yoko, the world changes. The internet is everywhere, and entrenched. While social experience on the internet is not the same as social experience face to face, you can't simply right off everything done on the internet as useless. Let's assume that I work for 8 hours a day, and sleep for 6-8 hours a day. That leaves me with 8-10 hours with which to do what I want. While you may view runescape as a waste of time, (whether individually or socially) doesn't matter. I could hold the same opinion of people who practice track, or sports, or music, or art. Just because you can't understand how gaming can be part of the social sphere, doesn't mean it isn't. It is and will continue to be part of the experience of life. Choosing to play runescape or any other video games isn't what is unhealthy. Blowing off relationship with people to do other stuff consistently is unhealthy. Want to know something? There are always people who will do this. There will always be people who make poor decisions, (drugs, theft, etc) I, for example don't really believe that going out every night with friends and drinking at clubs is any more productive than video games. I'd consider this more unhealthy for me. I'm not trying to create a moral relativism, but what you seem to be going after happens in so many spheres already. Running around a track for thousands of hours in order to win time at a race.. That is pretty much about as useful as being #1 in a video game. Would you consider olympics and the culture we have around this to be any worse than video games? Because based on your arguments that is what it sounds like.

I started sometime before 6th grade :o