.::11 April 2007 - Olaf's Quest Slippery Bridge::.

[jondea0]

The problem was that they didn't take into account sequential odds. It's a common mistake.

 

 

 

Think about it this way. I have level 67 agility. Perhaps that means I have a 67% chance of making it across each step. For any given step, that's not a big deal. However, as Jagex noted, there were 12 steps. Given that, the odds of me making it across ALL 12 steps was: .67^12 (i.e., .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67 * .67). That would mean that I have a less than 1 / 100 chance of completing the bridge in its entirety.

 

 

 

Now imagine that the actual success level was much higher: 85% chance of success. That would still mean it would take me, on average, 7 times to cross the bridge. With a success level set that high, if they didn't take into account sequential odds, they would have assumed everyone would get through very quickly. Obviously, that's just not true.

 

yes well said... erm what did he say...

 

 

 

yes good point!!!

 

 

 

now i can do the quest with my boiling hate of agility

[blakdragon39]

Hmm... I did the quest yesterday, and I didn't complain :D

 

 

 

Of course, I got across the bridge first try, and had no clue that people were having so much trouble with it o.o Good update though :) I like where they say the didn't 'nerf' the quest, lol.

[Latinoking]

Hmm... I did the quest yesterday, and I didn't complain :D

 

 

 

Of course, I got across the bridge first try, and had no clue that people were having so much trouble with it o.o Good update though :) I like where they say the didn't 'nerf' the quest, lol.

 

 

 

they said "neft" because they been nerfing stuff lately *cough* achor *cough*

[meb]

Lol I didn't fail once and I did the quest yesterday...

[dude_of_war4]

you people are failures, i did it in 3 tries with 61 agility

[12pure34]

I fell 5 times. I did complain, but the more happy I am I finished it :D So really, a good thing Jagex noticed this and fixed it. And for all those, like me, who did it after all. Good job :)

[hephaistos50]

you people are failures, i did it in 3 tries with 61 agility

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

The fact that I wasn't as lucky as you doesn't mean I'm a failure...

 

Failed about 20 times yesterday, but I kept trying and eventually I succeeded. Never complained they should nerf it.

 

 

 

I think I'm just going to see this as a personal achievement and

 

as a sign of my determination.

[pure_fett]

Hmm... I did the quest yesterday, and I didn't complain :D

 

 

 

Of course, I got across the bridge first try, and had no clue that people were having so much trouble with it o.o Good update though :) I like where they say the didn't 'nerf' the quest, lol.

 

 

 

 

 

+1

[cleanleper]

I didn't fall at all going across the first time, but I did fall coming back, which was alright since I wanted out of the dungeon anyway!

[Alg]

there goes my excuse to train agility...

[i123i]

I fail to see how underground pass was hard....Back a couple of years ago I tried it on my acc with 1 agility and made it to the second demon, 6 hours later I couldn't make it to the third still lol(tbh the quest is np with 32 agility)

[thehate]

so what do you guys actually have against training agility? :P i wondered that already when i was first to hit 99 agility, as i did it with 8 million xp margin to next... it is a nice skill

[Chrisaster]

People on the RSOF whine about not having high leveled / hard quests, Jagex releases ONE simple quest with just ONE hard part and what do you get?

 

 

 

WHINERS.

 

The people who whined about not having high leveled / hard quests are now whining because this part is too hard. What's next, 'pls nrf' Imp Catcher fr us?1!?/'

[sheepdean]

wasted 20 mins on that bridge to get over, when i could have just waited :evil: . ah well, reward wasn't too bad

[Golvellius]

Way to cave to the whiners... :roll:

 

After failing the underground pass like 10 times in a row with 50ish agility, I learned good agility is necessity.

 

Apparently, I should have just wrote posts on the forums saying, "OMFG WTH with the pass".

[Berrakus]

What's next, 'pls nrf' Imp Catcher fr us?1!?/'

 

 

 

Actually the Rants board on the Official Forums is funny right now. People are sarcastically creating threads like "Cook's Assistant Too Hard!!!" and "Sheep Shearer Needs To Be Nerfed Too!!!"

[petert1985]

i like how everybody complains about the bridge, and i never failed it and did the whole quest in about 10 mins, i even ended up 3 hitting the end boss :D

[T. Skill]

Pfft took me three tries with 61 Agility before Jagex changed it...

 

Ah well, as long as they don't start messing around with quests like MEP2 and Underground Pass I'll be happy. :)

 

 

 

If they do that I might just quit...

[Latinoking]

What's next, 'pls nrf' Imp Catcher fr us?1!?/'

 

 

 

Actually the Rants board on the Official Forums is funny right now. People are sarcastically creating threads like "Cook's Assistant Too Hard!!!" and "Sheep Shearer Needs To Be Nerfed Too!!!"

 

 

 

Rofl He's Right

[Latinoking]

People on the RSOF whine about not having high leveled / hard quests, Jagex releases ONE simple quest with just ONE hard part and what do you get?

 

 

 

WHINERS.

 

The people who whined about not having high leveled / hard quests are now whining because this part is too hard. What's next, 'pls nrf' Imp Catcher fr us?1!?/'

 

 

 

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[nine naked men]

I did it yesterday. Luck favoured me rofl. 34 Agility.

[SirHartlar]

I don't half feel sorry for Jagex...

 

 

 

They get a ton of abuse from players whining the quest is too hard because their agility is too low. Jagex does a decent thing: apologises about making a 'mistake' (although I believe they might have felt pressured into it) and then makes the quest a little bit easier for everyone.

 

Then what do they get? A forum full of sarcastic suggestions which completely humiliates them. Jagex can't win. :(

[Latinoking]

I don't half feel sorry for Jagex...

 

 

 

They get a ton of abuse from players whining the quest is too hard because their agility is too low. Jagex does a decent thing: apologises about making a 'mistake' (although I believe they might have felt pressured into it) and then makes the quest a little bit easier for everyone.

 

Then what do they get? A forum full of sarcastic suggestions which completely humiliates them. Jagex can't win. :(

 

 

 

Jagex will always fold to whiners :shame:

[SirHartlar]

I don't half feel sorry for Jagex...

 

 

 

They get a ton of abuse from players whining the quest is too hard because their agility is too low. Jagex does a decent thing: apologises about making a 'mistake' (although I believe they might have felt pressured into it) and then makes the quest a little bit easier for everyone.

 

Then what do they get? A forum full of sarcastic suggestions which completely humiliates them. Jagex can't win. :(

 

 

 

Jagex will always fold to whiners :shame:

 

 

 

I really don't understand how that emoticon is appropriate but anyway I'll ignore it and carry on.

 

 

 

Isn't that a bit sad? Jagex should have complete control over their game. If I recall correctly this is the first time they have actually caved in to people whinging, I hope it doesn't happen again. Making a quest a bit easier for lower levels is one thing but if Jagex don't have a backbone the game could go bottoms up.

 

 

 

Imagine what the core of a game essentially controlled by a 12 year old could become. I don't won't to think about the uzi wielding Barbarians. I DON'T WANNA! :uhh:

[Barihawk]

The way I see it, they aren't even caving in to whiners.

 

 

 

For such an easy quest, you shouldn't have a 1/100 success rate. I mean, the agility traps in Desert Treasure and Underground Pass have higher success rates than that.

 

 

 

The difficulty did not fit the reward, so they changed it. Big Whoop. I made it just fine yesterday, and could care less.