I am sorry to say because even though they are humans they deserve to live under the bridge. Why should the government fork out to build them houses when they have wrecked lives. It is called justice.

 

 

 

No, they already served their time. We aren't saying the government should build them houses but they should be able to live somewhere and not be forced under a bridge.

 

 

 

Again, they already served their time and they were released. Its no longer 'justice'.

 

 

 

TIME SERVED DOESN'T END AFTER A 15 YEAR STRING IN PRISON.

 

 

 

Does the victims pain just END after a certain period of time? No. It'll be with them for life. Part of these guys' parole is that they have to see their PO and check in with them, and that they cannot live anywhere near children. This, apparently, is the only way they've found for now to make this possible. What do you want, honestly? The government to build them all a house to live in and give them money and food so that they can stay away from people? It'd be nice, but it'd also be a reward for them, not a punishment.

 

 

 

The ideal "justice" would have been these guys being put to death to begin with. Sorry, you don't rape a kid and expect anything less. Would YOU?

Seems fair to me. If they don't want to live under a bridge, maby they should leave miami (unless thats not allowed in which case it's a little harsh)

what the police there should do is find housing that's affordable for the offenders which obeys the "nowhere near children" law.

 

 

 

this would get them a home, stop the risk of more children being abused, and less worrying near the bridge.

I am sorry to say because even though they are humans they deserve to live under the bridge. Why should the government fork out to build them houses when they have wrecked lives. It is called justice.

 

 

 

No, they already served their time. We aren't saying the government should build them houses but they should be able to live somewhere and not be forced under a bridge.

 

 

 

Again, they already served their time and they were released. Its no longer 'justice'.

 

 

 

TIME SERVED DOESN'T END AFTER A 15 YEAR STRING IN PRISON.

 

 

 

Does the victims pain just END after a certain period of time? No. It'll be with them for life. Part of these guys' parole is that they have to see their PO and check in with them, and that they cannot live anywhere near children. This, apparently, is the only way they've found for now to make this possible. What do you want, honestly? The government to build them all a house to live in and give them money and food so that they can stay away from people? It'd be nice, but it'd also be a reward for them, not a punishment.

 

 

 

The ideal "justice" would have been these guys being put to death to begin with. Sorry, you don't [assault] a kid and expect anything less. Would YOU?

 

 

 

Look I'm not going to argue with you if the sentance was long enough, ok? The point is is that THEY DID SERVE THEIR TIME no matter how short it was. Acording to the court they were deemed safe.

 

 

 

Did they deserve more time? Yes I would say so. However this is not about what this post is about so stop trying to turn it into that.

 

 

 

 

 

The whole point is is that putting them under a bridge is pointless. They aren't 'learing a lesson' and they most certainly aren't being "kept away" from children in a place as unprotected as a bridge. What this is is simply unesisary and means that even if they could reform themselves they most certainly won't now.

I'm willing to bet that prison is punishment. You could always prove us wrong and commit a little theft, go to prison, and then maybe you could tell us about how wonderful it is. Or, if things there are as I perceive them to be, you would come back talking about how it was hell and about how you never want to go back.

 

 

 

I was younger when I was in a scandinavian prison for a bit over a month (tax-related). And I can assure you there is no such thing as punishment in the jail, you can do almost anything you could do outside jail. They even had broadband internet access, supervised though, in the library. That was years ago when internet access wasn't even that common in normal families. What the heck is that?

 

 

 

Then there's the special cells for people with no hope of turning for the better, and that's a real punishment. It doesn't even have windows. You just sit and sleep inside 4 corners all week and get out for about an hour a day if that. You eat meals in the room. I've only seen that place but I pray I or you wont ever have to go there.

 

 

 

And who go there? Maybe 10-50 people a year, like seriously mentally ill mass murderers etc. and people who have escaped from prison multiple times. "Normal" murderers and child abusers don't go there.

 

 

 

The only "punishment" I could think of is that most of the time the food is crap. That doesn't constitute as a punishment either, at least you get to eat something for free. Getting to eat only every second day would be a punishment.

I doubt a month in a Scandinavian prison over tax issues can compare to years in an American prison for a child molester.

 

 

 

...anyway, my $0.02:

 

 

 

1) Besides being punished, criminials should also be rehabilitated, if possible, to become productive members of society.

 

2) The article states that circumstances are actually making it hard for parole officers to track these people. This means that the current situation is doing nothing to protect them from society.

 

3) The guys, even though they're convicted criminals, are still entitled to some basic rights. Would I want them living next to me if I had kids? Probably not. Would I want to shoot them on sight? Hell no.

I find it interesting that those people objecting to Sharia law a month or so back are now proposing the barbaric slaughter of citizens for committing crimes. I admit what they did was barbaric, however death is rarley the answer.

I find it interesting that those people objecting to Sharia law a month or so back are now proposing the barbaric slaughter of citizens for committing crimes. I admit what they did was barbaric, however death is rarley the answer.

Its the current craze isn't it? Its like a competition on who hates sex offenders the most.

I am sorry to say because even though they are humans they deserve to live under the bridge. Why should the government fork out to build them houses when they have wrecked lives. It is called justice.

 

Wrecking a life of one who has wrecked the life of another is not justice. It's not even excusable, or any better.

I'm willing to bet that prison is punishment. You could always prove us wrong and commit a little theft, go to prison, and then maybe you could tell us about how wonderful it is. Or, if things there are as I perceive them to be, you would come back talking about how it was hell and about how you never want to go back.

 

 

 

I was younger when I was in a scandinavian prison for a bit over a month (tax-related). And I can assure you there is no such thing as punishment in the jail, you can do almost anything you could do outside jail. They even had broadband internet access, supervised though, in the library. That was years ago when internet access wasn't even that common in normal families. What the heck is that?

 

 

 

Then there's the special cells for people with no hope of turning for the better, and that's a real punishment. It doesn't even have windows. You just sit and sleep inside 4 corners all week and get out for about an hour a day if that. You eat meals in the room. I've only seen that place but I pray I or you wont ever have to go there.

 

 

 

And who go there? Maybe 10-50 people a year, like seriously mentally ill mass murderers etc. and people who have escaped from prison multiple times. "Normal" murderers and child abusers don't go there.

 

 

 

The only "punishment" I could think of is that most of the time the food is crap. That doesn't constitute as a punishment either, at least you get to eat something for free. Getting to eat only every second day would be a punishment.

 

So you're saying you would be perfectly fine with spending 15 years or even life there? I mean, hell, free food and internet, why don't we all just get ourselves thrown in prison? The reason I would never want to go to prison is because it takes away my freedom. I would never like prison simply because there are more important things to me than video games, free food, and a place to stay. I have friends and family that I would want to see. Oh yes, in prison you have rights to visitation but I don't want to have set hours and time limits for family and friends. It's interesting to listen to you speak about how prison isn't punishment simply because it has a few of the luxuries that we have.

Seems fair to me. If they don't want to live under a bridge, maby they should leave miami (unless thats not allowed in which case it's a little harsh)

 

 

 

They can leave Miami, they just can't leave Dade County. And from what I read, under that bridge is the only place in Dade County they can legally live without being too close to a location where children may congrigate. Thus they have to be there by a certain time every night and cannot leave until morning. Once their parole is up they can leave the county, however they are then a registered sex offender and either have to have permission to move into an area with children, everyone has to be notified that a sex offender is moving into their area, or they just plain can't move into some areas.

 

 

 

Not being able to move into certain areas is okay with me, but forcing them to live under a bridge and not be able to work (thus having to beg for what they can get) is cruel and unusual punishment in my eyes.

Oh yes, in prison you have rights to visitation but I don't want to have set hours and time limits for family and friends. It's interesting to listen to you speak about how prison isn't punishment simply because it has a few of the luxuries that we have.

 

 

 

Normal people 'work' to get those luxuries, those guys 'break the law' and get it for free. Not all criminals have friends or family, who knows if some of them get jailed on purpose in wealthier countries :?

Oh yes, in prison you have rights to visitation but I don't want to have set hours and time limits for family and friends. It's interesting to listen to you speak about how prison isn't punishment simply because it has a few of the luxuries that we have.

 

 

 

Normal people 'work' to get those luxuries, those guys 'break the law' and get it for free. Not all criminals have friends or family, who knows if some of them get jailed on purpose in wealthier countries :?

 

 

 

I sometimes wonder if some people don't get jailed on purpose. Say an elderly person is nearing the time when they'll have to head for a retirement home. But instead of forcing their family to pay for them, they could go break the law and go to prison. Free room, board, some decent luxuries and your family might visit more often than if you were in a retirement home because it's so "horrible" to be in prison.

Oh yes, in prison you have rights to visitation but I don't want to have set hours and time limits for family and friends. It's interesting to listen to you speak about how prison isn't punishment simply because it has a few of the luxuries that we have.

 

 

 

Normal people 'work' to get those luxuries, those guys 'break the law' and get it for free. Not all criminals have friends or family, who knows if some of them get jailed on purpose in wealthier countries :?

 

I'd like to point out that though criminals may not have family and friends that they would like to see, they probably still have plenty of reasons as to why being free is much better than being stuck in a correctional institution for many years. I'm just pointing out that you make prison sound like a utopia of sorts. A place where we should want to go. Which is why I don't understand why you're not there. You seem to love it so much.

 

 

 

At deloriagod, I'm sure some people get jailed on purpose but I would assume that the majority who do would only do that if they felt threatened and made the decision that prison would more than likely be safer than their own home. In those scenarios, though, the subject is probably a criminal anyway.

they probably still have plenty of reasons as to why being free is much better than being stuck in a correctional institution for many years. I'm just pointing out that you make prison sound like a utopia of sorts.

 

 

 

Why do some people like you have this huge urge to defend those people? They raped children, robbed honest people out of millions of dollars, killed innocent bystanders...

 

 

 

Their opinion doesn't matter. They chose to do it and should be punished to the full extent of the law, or are you proposing they should be given balloons and a ticket to Disneyworld? "Being stuck in a correctional institution"... Jesus, they should be happy they get to live!

 

 

 

A place where we should want to go.

 

 

 

You obviously have no idea about real poverty, or maybe you just haven't experienced it. A western prison, to a person in a third world country who earns $1 a day is a paradise, family or not. Those people don't even dream of buying books or having internet access.

reminds you of errr billy goat gruff anyone?

they probably still have plenty of reasons as to why being free is much better than being stuck in a correctional institution for many years. I'm just pointing out that you make prison sound like a utopia of sorts.

 

 

 

Why do some people like you have this huge urge to defend those people? They raped children, robbed honest people out of millions of dollars, killed innocent bystanders...

 

 

 

Their opinion doesn't matter. They chose to do it and should be punished to the full extent of the law, or are you proposing they should be given balloons and a ticket to Disneyworld? "Being stuck in a correctional institution"... Jesus, they should be happy they get to live!

 

 

 

A place where we should want to go.

 

 

 

You obviously have no idea about real poverty, or maybe you just haven't experienced it. A western prison, to a person in a third world country who earns $1 a day is a paradise, family or not. Those people don't even dream of buying books or having internet access.

 

 

 

The thing is that according to our constitution we cannot enforce cruel and unusual punishment. One could argue that forcing these men to live under the bridge is a form of cruel and unusual punishment. I'm not saying what they did is right and I'm not saying that they don't deserve more prison time. They made a mistake with their life. Everyone makes mistakes. The size of that mistake varies but everyone should be given a chance to go straight again. I'm all for giving them a longer prison time or having them castrated but they at least deserve a chance at life like a normal person. I know of poverty. I'll admit I'm not in poverty but I can see why prison would be better than poverty. That doesn't change the fact that these men don't want to go to prison. Think of a mother sending her child to the corner because the child broke a rule. I could walk to a corner right now and it wouldn't be punishment. The corner has everything that the child would need and the child would only be there for a minute but that doesn't change the fact that the child doesn't want to go. The child being forced to go to the corner infringes his/her freedom on a much smaller scale than prison. On a side note, I would like to say that prison has corrected many men and woman. I actually have a former prison guard for my algebra 2 teacher and he has told us stories of men who have come to prison one way and left completely changed. Once again though, I would like to reiterate that the constitution doesn't allow for cruel and unusual punishment which is why our prisons offer entertainment while still enforcing the prisoners to stay on the premises. Of course, if you don't like the constitution, then you could leave America providing you live here in the first place.

People hang out everywhere. Next they're gonna move them to a long jhon silvers. The horror :ohnoes: .

this makes sense if you think about it technically, they can't live close to where children congregate, they can't afford a house where the are required to live and so they just don't live under a house... however ethically this is screwed up, the government should somehow be able to conpensate for these poor ummm... sex offenders

this makes sense if you think about it technically, they can't live close to where children congregate, they can't afford a house where the are required to live and so they just don't live under a house... however ethically this is screwed up, the government should somehow be able to conpensate for these poor ummm... sex offenders

 

 

 

From what I understood, under that bridge is the only place in Dade County, that is far enough away from anywhere which children may congrigate, where they can live. There are literally no houses/apartments/condos/etc where they can legally live. With no residence they cannot get a job which means the government now has more homeless/poor citizens to add to it's statistics. I think they should send the sex offenders out of Dade County if there's no place suitible to live. (I'm not counting under the bridge asa suitible place since I doubt any of us would be willing to give up everything but the clothes we're wearing to go stay there for a few months).

Heard about this months ago.

 

 

 

Are we supposed to feel bad for them? Some here have said it's inhumane to make them live under a bridge...Tell me, did they not sacrifice their humanity by taking someone elses and raping them like they were a worthless peice of meat?

 

 

 

I submit that, yes, yes they did. Anyone who sympathizes with these guys is nothing but a bowl full of Stupid Flakes. They can't [assault] someone and then expect pity later because they have to live under a bridge. Don't like it? Punch your P.O. in the arm and go back to jail.

 

 

 

+1, if you stoop so low as to rape a child, then the punishment should be just as sick, throw back under the bridge the bastards.

I think this is wrong. Though they may have made a stupid decision, they don't deserve to leave one prison and enter another that is possibly worse. What does everyone else think?

 

 

 

 

 

its not exactly just a stupid decision. but it is wrong to put them under a bridge. :shame:

ya i agree. the judge went a little too far with this one.

Heard about this months ago.

 

 

 

Are we supposed to feel bad for them? Some here have said it's inhumane to make them live under a bridge...Tell me, did they not sacrifice their humanity by taking someone elses and raping them like they were a worthless peice of meat?

 

 

 

I submit that, yes, yes they did. Anyone who sympathizes with these guys is nothing but a bowl full of Stupid Flakes. They can't [assault] someone and then expect pity later because they have to live under a bridge. Don't like it? Punch your P.O. in the arm and go back to jail.

 

 

 

+1, if you stoop so low as to [assault] a child, then the punishment should be just as sick, throw back under the bridge the [bleep].

 

 

 

So after they've served their court ordered time, they should be forced to live like total [cabbage] until their parole is up? Why shouldn't they go molest another child to get back in jail where they'll live more comfortably? Hell, they could off the kid while they're at it and get another one to try for a life sentence. Yup, threating them like [cabbage] when they could just break the law and get into a better place is a great idea :roll: