2008 Presidential Elections

[Alabama]

Barack Hussein Obama

 

 

 

First name can rhym with Iraq

 

 

 

Middle name is Hussein

 

 

 

Last name rhyms with Osama

 

 

 

Weird....

 

 

 

Not to mention he spent 4 years of his childhood living in Indonesia where he attended a radical muslim elementary school.

 

 

 

He will never ever be president of the US and will lose in the upcoming Democratic primaries, but for some reason if he becomes president Im leaving the country.

 

 

 

Turn to your TV and change the channel, FOX isn't an intelligent way of gathering information.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I'm for Obama. Hillary, as stated above, is a hypocrite who will say anything to pease the crowd in front of her, so I don't honestly understand her motivers fully, and I'm not willing to take that sort of risk.

 

 

 

I never watch fox news simply because its "pop" news. I get my news from a handfull of other sources and Ive done my own research on Obama.

 

 

 

The truth about him is that during part of his childhood he was raised in Jakarta, Indonesia where he attended a muslim school. Is there anything wrong with that? No....but what makes it so interesting is that in recent years America has become very distant with muslim nations and muslim terrorism has become a big issue for us.

 

 

 

Anyways, I agree with you on Hillary. She will please whomever she is speaking to.

[Defender2516]

Barack Hussein Obama

 

 

 

First name can rhym with Iraq

 

 

 

Middle name is Hussein

 

 

 

Last name rhyms with Osama

 

 

 

Weird....

 

 

 

Not to mention he spent 4 years of his childhood living in Indonesia where he attended a radical muslim elementary school.

 

 

 

He will never ever be president of the US and will lose in the upcoming Democratic primaries, but for some reason if he becomes president Im leaving the country.

 

 

 

Turn to your TV and change the channel, FOX isn't an intelligent way of gathering information.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I'm for Obama. Hillary, as stated above, is a hypocrite who will say anything to pease the crowd in front of her, so I don't honestly understand her motivers fully, and I'm not willing to take that sort of risk.

 

 

 

I never watch fox news simply because its "pop" news. I get my news from a handfull of other sources and Ive done my own research on Obama.

 

 

 

The truth about him is that during part of his childhood he was raised in Jakarta, Indonesia where he attended a muslim school. Is there anything wrong with that? No....but what makes it so interesting is that in recent years America has become very distant with muslim nations and muslim terrorism has become a big issue for us.

 

 

 

Anyways, I agree with you on Hillary. She will please whomever she is speaking to.

 

 

 

Can I ask what websites or where do you get your research information from? I rarely trust Media as they are only intrested in making a buck. Hell they would kill your mom if it gave them money.

 

 

 

Send me a Pm please.

 

 

 

~Defender~

[Kwisatz]

I'm no political analyst, but I know this much - if Hillary gets elected, I'm going overseas for college. Her having said what she's said about her stance on videogames and her desire to ban them, not to mention the wholly arbitrary declaration that Pac-Man is 75% violent, I don't think she can be rational about ANYTHING. If she can undermine free speech in a medium of entertainment and misconstrue something like Pac-Man, think about what she'll do to REAL issues.

[Nitramosma]

The main thing that scares me about Hilary is that I'm going to Rochester, New York for college this fall. She is going to be one of my senators :x

 

There is no way in hell that that crazy woman would get elected for president. I'd be quite shocked if she even got the Democratic party's nomination. I think the democrats will pick someone more sensible.

 

 

 

As far as Republicans go, I think either Guiliani (sp) or McCain will be the nominee. Personally, I want Guiliani for president.

[Agunimon979]

Al Gore: He has an unhealthy obsession about global warming propaganda, atleast Bush doesn't go overboard on saving the environment

 

 

 

What's unhealthy about wanting to preserve the planet?

 

 

 

Whats unhealthy is overdoing it.

[Barihawk]

Barack Hussein Obama

 

 

 

First name can rhym with Iraq

 

 

 

Middle name is Hussein

 

 

 

Last name rhyms with Osama

 

 

 

Weird....

 

 

 

Not to mention he spent 4 years of his childhood living in Indonesia where he attended a radical muslim elementary school.

 

 

 

He will never ever be president of the US and will lose in the upcoming Democratic primaries, but for some reason if he becomes president Im leaving the country.

 

 

 

Turn to your TV and change the channel, FOX isn't an intelligent way of gathering information.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I'm for Obama. Hillary, as stated above, is a hypocrite who will say anything to pease the crowd in front of her, so I don't honestly understand her motivers fully, and I'm not willing to take that sort of risk.

 

 

 

I never watch fox news simply because its "pop" news. I get my news from a handfull of other sources and Ive done my own research on Obama.

 

 

 

The truth about him is that during part of his childhood he was raised in Jakarta, Indonesia where he attended a muslim school. Is there anything wrong with that? No....but what makes it so interesting is that in recent years America has become very distant with muslim nations and muslim terrorism has become a big issue for us.

 

 

 

Anyways, I agree with you on Hillary. She will please whomever she is speaking to.

 

 

 

Check your research. Obama is now a devout Christian. He is not Islamic.

 

 

 

And Fox News is just as good a news organization as CNN or any other. It's actually a liberal news station like any other that hires conservative talking heads to make things interesting.

 

 

 

I would like a guy like Ron Paul to run the country, although my vote will more than likely go towards McCain. I would be happy if Obama was elected if we just HAVE to have a Democrat in the Oval Office.

[cryztalwing]

part of an interview with Presidential Candidate Ron Paul..

 

 

 

WND: At what point do such agreements (the Security and Prosperity Partnership) with other nations actually endanger the sovereignty of the United States?

 

 

 

Ron Paul: It's incremental. It sneaks up on us. When we joined the WTO I objected and they said it's no big deal, they won't force us to do anything. They try to reassure you. Yet to be an upstanding member of the WTO we have already changed our tax laws. We have gone to war under U.N. resolutions. As a matter of fact, this excuse of giving the president the authority to go to war and Congress ducking their responsibility, it was to give the president the authority to enforce U.N. resolutions, so it's subtle but it's there, and it's not legal in the sense that they say a treaty is the law of the land so we join the U.N. and you have to do these things. But you cannot amend the Constitution with a treaty. I think it's already happening. I think it's going to get a lot worse. This Security and Prosperity Partnership is something most members of Congress are totally unaware of and when you tell them anything about it, they say that's all conspiratorial and it's not true and they don't care. The American people are facing some serious problems because of the fact members of Congress aren't alert to what's happening.

 

 

 

 

 

You can read the rest of it here...

 

 

 

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=56526

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

an interview Presidential Candidate Tom Tancredo

 

 

 

President Bush believes America should be more of an idea than an actual place, a Republican congressman told WND in an exclusive interview.

 

 

 

"People have to understand what we're talking about here. The president of the United States is an internationalist," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ it's an idea. It's not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where this guy is really going."

 

 

 

Tancredo lashed out at the White House's lack of action in securing U.S. borders, and said efforts to merge the U.S. with both Mexico and Canada is not a fantasy.

 

 

 

"I know this is dramatic ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ or maybe somebody would say overly dramatic ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ but I'm telling you, that everything I see leads me to believe that this whole idea of the North American Union, it's not something that just is written about by right-wing fringe kooks. It is something in the head of the president of the United States, the president of Mexico, I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it. ...

 

 

 

"And they would just tell you, 'Well, sure, it's a natural thing. It's part of the great globalization ... of the economy.' They assume it's a natural, evolutionary event that's going to occur here. I hope they're wrong and I'm going to try my best to make sure they're wrong. But I'm telling you the tide is great. The tide is moving in their direction. We have to say that."

 

 

 

Tancredo was in South Florida joining the likes of media giants Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter at a four-day event called "Restoration Weekend" which concluded today. The gathering was hosted by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

 

 

 

Tancredo pointed to Florida's largest city as an example of how the nature of America can be changed by uncontrolled immigration.

 

 

 

"Look at what has happened to Miami. It has become a Third World country," he said. "You just pick it up and take it and move it someplace. You would never know you're in the United States of America. You would certainly say you're in a Third World country."

 

 

 

He said quickly changing demographics can cause big problems, and specifically cited the "Islamization of Europe" in recent years which has led to conflict across the continent.

 

 

 

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=53023

[mad4u689]

 

I never watch fox news simply because its "pop" news. I get my news from a handfull of other sources and Ive done my own research on Obama.

 

 

 

The truth about him is that during part of his childhood he was raised in Jakarta, Indonesia where he attended a muslim school. Is there anything wrong with that? No....but what makes it so interesting is that in recent years America has become very distant with muslim nations and muslim terrorism has become a big issue for us.

 

 

 

What exactly does "your own research" include? I hope it doesn't refer to that ridiculous e-mail forward that's been going around about how Osama's father was a fundamentalist and Osama went to a radical Muslim school, because it's so blatantly untrue and also racist that it's painful to read.

 

 

 

I just finished Obama's second book, "The Audacity of Hope," which explained a lot about his views on the country as it is and where he'd like to see it going - and also a bit about his own personal life. He was raised in a fairly secular household; his mother did not believe in organized religion. While in Indonesia, he attended an officially Muslim school for two years and an officially catholic school for two years, but neither emphasized religion very much, and his mother sent him to them because they were decent schools where he could learn such things as *gasp* biology. So he was raised outside of organized religion, but later, he found spiritual comfort with the historically black churches in Chicago, realizing that religion could fit in with social progressiveness and community. He was later baptized into such a church.

 

 

 

So, he's not a Muslim. However, even if he were, what would be wrong with that? Since our current conflicts and "war on terror" has much to do with Arab Muslim extremists, wouldn't it be good to have someone who understood Islam a little better, but was still patriotic and committed to the American way? Wouldn't it be helpful? As it is, I think the fact that Obama spent some of his childhood in Indonesia is a good quality to have in a President, just because it offers some firsthand understanding of the roots of radical Islam. Some Americans are under the impression that obliterating Islam entirely would be a good thing. Even Bush seems to regard it as something of an "evil empire" and his entire foreign policy is founded on racism and religionism. Obama hopefully would represent a change from that - someone who believes in America and wants to stop terrorism, but who would do it in a sensitive, legitimate and nonracist way.

[jackattack]

oh god hillary clinton better not win. :ohnoes:

 

 

 

 

 

barack im ok with anyone see that movie with chris rock where hes president?

[Capone_Sabre]

The ignorance on this topic is staggering. :?

 

 

 

Indonesia is a peaceful nation. I spent 2 and a half years living there. It's one of the most laid back, friendly and safe places I have ever been. You can walk anywhere, buy a beer anywhere. The same can not be said for London, or most western cities.

 

 

 

Indonesia is a world away from the middle east. There are extremists there of course, just like there are in every western country. But 99.99% of people there are friendly, peaceful Muslims/Buddhists/Hindus/Catholics who just want to get on with their own lives.

 

 

 

Obama will not give an insight into how the roots of Muslim extremism start because he probably never came across it! If you want someone who has first hand experience of that, elect a President who's lived in Iran. Or North London.

 

 

 

Most Americans don't even own a passport. A President who's lived abroad will actually have some knowledge about the 96% of people in the world who aren't American, unlike your current chimp. He is not a terrorist planning to bring America down from the inside just because he went to a Muslim school abroad. -.- That is one of the most ignorant and racist things I have ever heard.

[jackattack]

The ignorance on this topic is staggering. :?

 

 

 

Indonesia is a peaceful nation. I spent 2 and a half years living there. It's one of the most laid back, friendly and safe places I have ever been. You can walk anywhere, buy a beer anywhere. The same can not be said for London, or most western cities.

 

 

 

Indonesia is a world away from the middle east. There are extremists there of course, just like there are in every western country. But 99.99% of people there are friendly, peaceful Muslims/Buddhists/Hindus/Catholics who just want to get on with their own lives.

 

 

 

Obama will not give an insight into how the roots of Muslim extremism start because he probably never came across it! If you want someone who has first hand experience of that, elect a President who's lived in Iran. Or North London.

 

 

 

Most Americans don't even own a passport. A President who's lived abroad will actually have some knowledge about the 96% of people in the world who aren't American, unlike your current chimp. He is not a terrorist planning to bring America down from the inside just because he went to a Muslim school abroad. -.- That is one of the most ignorant and racist things I have ever heard.

 

 

 

Youre on his side arent you! did he pay you to say that? :twisted: havent you heard that he was the mastermind behind 911?

[Adam007]

Barack Hussein Obama

 

 

 

First name can rhym with Iraq

 

 

 

Middle name is Hussein

 

 

 

Last name rhyms with Osama

 

 

 

Weird....

 

 

 

Not to mention he spent 4 years of his childhood living in Indonesia where he attended a radical muslim elementary school.

 

 

 

He will never ever be president of the US and will lose in the upcoming Democratic primaries, but for some reason if he becomes president Im leaving the country.

 

 

 

Turn to your TV and change the channel, FOX isn't an intelligent way of gathering information.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I'm for Obama. Hillary, as stated above, is a hypocrite who will say anything to pease the crowd in front of her, so I don't honestly understand her motivers fully, and I'm not willing to take that sort of risk.

 

 

 

I never watch fox news simply because its "pop" news. I get my news from a handfull of other sources and Ive done my own research on Obama.

 

 

 

The truth about him is that during part of his childhood he was raised in Jakarta, Indonesia where he attended a muslim school. Is there anything wrong with that? No....but what makes it so interesting is that in recent years America has become very distant with muslim nations and muslim terrorism has become a big issue for us.

 

 

 

Anyways, I agree with you on Hillary. She will please whomever she is speaking to.

 

Do you have any idea even remotely how ignorant you sound in saying you wouldn't vote for someone because of his/her name? And his schooling is not an issue here. If anything it would help this nation become more open with muslim people, because after 9/11 they've been facing a lot of unnecessary stereotyping. How can you say you've done your own research on Obama but when citing why you wouldn't vote for him you just mention his name and his schooling as reason enough to leave this country if he got elected? It might just be me but do you really think that's any kind of valid reason whatsoever?

 

 

 

I am pro war. War is good. Without war this world would be just a pile of radioactive dust right now. If we didn't have war, who would mantain the terrorists? Would they go blowing up more countries? Think about it. I am all for bush, and I think he's done a great job.

 

So without wars, we'd all be destroyed? You think if we never invaded Iraq and started this war the terrorists would have bombed us? It really terrifies me that the Bush administration and the news have pushed this fear mongering into peoples' minds this far. You don't think it's warped at all thinking that the only way for us to have peace is to be in a constant state of war? Seriously both of you need to read 1984.

 

 

 

Anyways... to the topic.

 

 

 

Clinton - Overly polarized and sides with issues not on what is right, but what gives her the most political leverage. She's not what this country needs.

 

 

 

Obama - I'd love for Obama to win the democratic ticket and plan on voting for him. I think he has a great vision and a necessary fresh perspective.

 

 

 

Other candidates I'm interested in...

 

 

 

Ron Paul - I've never liked any republicans until now. Probably because he's more of a libertarian. But he speaks the truth constantly and consistently. If a republican were to win, I would love it to be Paul. I'd prefer Ron Paul way more than Clinton for office.

 

 

 

Bloomberg & Gore - Neither have announced any runs for the presidency but both I think out of any candidate out there would turn this country around in the best possible way. If either runs they'll have my vote.

[Lenin64]

I personally do not want Clinton to win. Our ties with Russia are bad enough already, I don't think she would be able to do anything but weaken them further. But that's just me.

[Tigra00]

A vote for McCain would be a vote for wasting money. The dude already blew 35 million dollars on his campaign and it hasn't even started yet. Not exactly the kinda' dude I want handling all our money-decisions. :P

[The Dark Lord]

Vampires, Witches, and Pagans Party, what the crap?

 

 

 

Do you want a Goth for president?

[00 Quanta]

Barack Hussein Obama

 

 

 

First name can rhym with Iraq

 

 

 

Middle name is Hussein

 

 

 

Last name rhyms with Osama

 

 

 

Weird....

 

 

 

Not to mention he spent 4 years of his childhood living in Indonesia where he attended a radical muslim elementary school.

 

 

 

He will never ever be president of the US and will lose in the upcoming Democratic primaries, but for some reason if he becomes president Im leaving the country.

 

 

 

let me guess...U sided so much with Bush that it turns u into one of those people who hate muslims now too? because if u do...I should slap u. :roll:

 

 

 

Barack Obama is a good person, and I would want him to be president....

 

 

 

I don't want Hilary Clinton to win at all....

[unknownmasterofnothing]

He's right..everybody goes off on bush, but it's better than what we could have had...John Kerry's a complete joke :lol:

 

Pretty much the opposite.

[hellbellz]

Barack Hussein Obama

 

 

 

First name can rhym with Iraq

 

 

 

Middle name is Hussein

 

 

 

Last name rhyms with Osama

 

 

 

Weird....

 

 

 

Not to mention he spent 4 years of his childhood living in Indonesia where he attended a radical muslim elementary school.

 

 

 

He will never ever be president of the US and will lose in the upcoming Democratic primaries, but for some reason if he becomes president Im leaving the country.

 

You sound like a rascist. :roll:

 

 

 

His religion, where he grew up, ethnicity has nothing to do with the presidential election. Sex doesn't matter, either.

[sephiroth_king]

Okay, so whenever someone comes out with a thread like this, at least 7 people say bush as a moron. First. Get off the frickin' bandwagon, just because everyone else is saying "We hate Bush" doesn't mean you should.

 

 

 

If he was a moron, then I guess he didn't put our troops in the middle east to fight off the towel heads, the ones that smashed our towers to nothing and made millions of people join oblivion. I guess, if many people hated him so much, he was never elected for another term. I guess, in a true reality, that he was never elected in the first place, 9/11 didn't happen, and we are all living in a fake universe created by machines in the matrix. Face it [wagon] wipes, if he wasn't such a good president, then I dunno how he even ended up as president twice. Indeed, I'm a bush supporter, and those of you who say a toothbrush could do better, you are basically saying you can do better. Face this reality/scenario:

 

 

 

You are the president, and your nation was attacked, pressure was pressed upon you, then I suppose you would say: "Let's not attack them." No. Your first choice would be, in blind fury or shielded fury (Where you look calm but are pissed), "This war will be a long one. It won't be a little while, but many years to come." Then thousands of people cheer.

 

 

 

Many years later, you have idiots prancing on the street, going: (Insert your last name here) is a moron!!!!" And [wagon], like at my school, saying "The main reason why we are over there is to look for imaginary nucs!"

 

 

 

Here's a true story. I argued with my friend. A hardcore democrat, who is bent to thinking irrational. He negates 9/11 in his mind, thus ignoring it completely. We where having an argument (I was winning) and he said the same thing over and over: "The only reason we are over there is to hunt imaginary weapons." I yell "What about 9/11?!" He shut's up instantaneously. 5 seconds later: "Republicans and bush are stupid!" I ignored this, but he crossed the line when saying: "You will never understand what it's like to lose someone in the towers!" Well did you? Simple question ending with a no. Thus, I smashed his face and broke his nose (Oops). Never again did he call bush a moron around me. And never again did I resort to violence unless needed.

 

 

 

It's democrats like him that, if I don't lose anyone special from the towers, why should we care? that make me mad. I remember that day we all became a union, no democrats or republicans, because in everyone's eyes, we wanted to simply blow the middle east off the map. But bush did the right thing and went to war. Then, years later, idiots are jumping on the bandwagon and saying bush is a moron. Think: I bet you didn't think that way when 9/11 happened.

 

 

 

I'll end on a strange not. What if there are nucs, and after bush is out of office, they use them? Then, the idiots will scream: "OMG Bush should have found those weapons!" Tsk.

 

 

 

I wouldn't vote for either, but if I had to choose, Obama. Hilary is a lying piece of crap, I remember when she said that we should stay in this war, and the dems booed, but the reps. were happy. But I know she won't uphold that. She'll withdraw the troops and we'll all die. :-w But neither will win; this country is to racist, everywhere you look there is one. Down south, from where I live up in new england, it doesn't stop. I hope, one day, we will be ready, and a black person/woman will be president.

[Capone_Sabre]

If he was a moron, then I guess he didn't put our troops in the middle east to fight off the towel heads

 

 

 

But neither will win; this country is to racist, everywhere you look there is one. Down south, from where I live up in new england, it doesn't stop. I hope, one day, we will be ready, and a black person/woman will be president.

 

 

 

How ironic.

[00 Quanta]

Okay, so whenever someone comes out with a thread like this, at least 7 people say bush as a moron. First. Get off the frickin' bandwagon, just because everyone else is saying "We hate Bush" doesn't mean you should.

 

 

 

If he was a moron, then I guess he didn't put our troops in the middle east to fight off the towel heads, the ones that smashed our towers to nothing and made millions of people join oblivion. I guess, if many people hated him so much, he was never elected for another term. I guess, in a true reality, that he was never elected in the first place, 9/11 didn't happen, and we are all living in a fake universe created by machines in the matrix. Face it [wagon] wipes, if he wasn't such a good president, then I dunno how he even ended up as president twice. Indeed, I'm a bush supporter, and those of you who say a toothbrush could do better, you are basically saying you can do better. Face this reality/scenario:

 

 

 

You are the president, and your nation was attacked, pressure was pressed upon you, then I suppose you would say: "Let's not attack them." No. Your first choice would be, in blind fury or shielded fury (Where you look calm but are pissed), "This war will be a long one. It won't be a little while, but many years to come." Then thousands of people cheer.

 

 

 

Many years later, you have idiots prancing on the street, going: (Insert your last name here) is a moron!!!!" And [wagon], like at my school, saying "The main reason why we are over there is to look for imaginary nucs!"

 

 

 

Here's a true story. I argued with my friend. A hardcore democrat, who is bent to thinking irrational. He negates 9/11 in his mind, thus ignoring it completely. We where having an argument (I was winning) and he said the same thing over and over: "The only reason we are over there is to hunt imaginary weapons." I yell "What about 9/11?!" He shut's up instantaneously. 5 seconds later: "Republicans and bush are stupid!" I ignored this, but he crossed the line when saying: "You will never understand what it's like to lose someone in the towers!" Well did you? Simple question ending with a no. Thus, I smashed his face and broke his nose (Oops). Never again did he call bush a moron around me. And never again did I resort to violence unless needed.

 

 

 

It's democrats like him that, if I don't lose anyone special from the towers, why should we care? that make me mad. I remember that day we all became a union, no democrats or republicans, because in everyone's eyes, we wanted to simply blow the middle east off the map. But bush did the right thing and went to war. Then, years later, idiots are jumping on the bandwagon and saying bush is a moron. Think: I bet you didn't think that way when 9/11 happened.

 

 

 

I'll end on a strange not. What if there are nucs, and after bush is out of office, they use them? Then, the idiots will scream: "OMG Bush should have found those weapons!" Tsk.

 

 

 

I wouldn't vote for either, but if I had to choose, Obama. Hilary is a lying piece of crap, I remember when she said that we should stay in this war, and the dems booed, but the reps. were happy. But I know she won't uphold that. She'll withdraw the troops and we'll all die. :-w But neither will win; this country is to racist, everywhere you look there is one. Down south, from where I live up in new england, it doesn't stop. I hope, one day, we will be ready, and a black person/woman will be president.

 

 

 

I find Barack Obama as the man with higher chance than anyone in becoming president next year...U look at all the black people voting for him....then u look at all the people who find Hilary as a fake and a liar

[highlanders]

The republicans will most likely win again with Rudy Giuliani.. After all, things are looking pretty bad for the democrat party, either a black or a woman.

[Tetsuya]

Giuliani already came under heat from the NYC firefighters. I think it really could hurt his chances. If he's seen as a bad mayor he would be seen as unfit for president.

 

 

 

Anyways, between Obama and Clinton I would most definitely side with Obama. But I'm already a Ron Paul supporter.

[KCHughes]

As much as I love American politics (gag) Sergei Ivanov is a shoo-in. Outstanding democratic and human rights record, very friendly with the West, fresh ideas for the economy that Putin laid the ground work for, and tough on organized crime. He's perfect. Russia will be back on top before you silly Americans know what hit you. :lol:

[00 Quanta]

Russia will be back on top before you silly Americans know what hit you. :lol:

 

 

 

NUKES.