Macroer/ New quest idea!!! Please read, help needed!

[Zaaps1]

Great idea! 20th support pl0x? :XD:

 

 

 

To the above, a skiller wouldn't do imp catcher, note the imps you have to kill would give combat exp. You could buy um, but the quest itself gives magic exp. Good idea though, and I like the questpoint idea.

 

 

 

An idea for the quest: You must find out what the disease is. Then you must make a potion to cure the yew trees. If your a member, you can simply make the potion with, oh, say 30 herblore, if not you must pay the Oracle 10k to make it. Chances are, a macro wont have 10k (if they took the time to get it they would be slowed down even more) but a skiller would defiantly be able to get 10k. A problem then may arise with macros simply going through the Stronghold of Security, 15k perhaps then?

 

 

 

To get the ingredients, you must run past many monsters. (Say the Oracle teleports you to a special area to get the herbs or such). For every person, the herb spawns in a different location. In addition, there are many decoy herbs there. You can only tell the difference by either a) Examining then, B) If your a member, use 27 herblore to identify the herb, then all the other decoy herbs will disappear.

 

 

 

Then, once you have the potion, you must bring it to 3 yew trees. 3 RANDOM yew trees. For each, the oracle gives you a map to show which one your going to. Once you give the potion (3 doses btw, you can't drink it however, member can use it on plants in farming to remove disease.) to the last yew tree you must contain the disease inside the vial. To do so you are transformed into miniature size, then you can either kill a VIRUS (level 30, 40hp, not hard to kill) or run past them (for skillers for those who cannot kill the viruses yet), make your way past a maze of goo. While in the maze, you take random damage. Only a little, like a 2 or 3 and not too often, but enough so the viruses have a chance to kill the macros on the way back (or die in the maze). At the end of the maze, there's a kind of "follow the cup where the coin is in" deal, except with the virus extract. Get it right, run back out of the maze, past the viruses and step into the portal.

 

 

 

Give the vial with the disease in it to the Oracle and quest complete 8-)

 

 

 

I hope this will slow down all the macroers (the idea not the quest I said above), and if Jagex doesn't add this then they should check what's in their morning coffee.

[schmuall]

I think a quest would be a wonderfull idea, that would delay autoers alot.

 

 

 

Maybe there was a termite infection in the yew trees, and you had to cure it with an insect repelant, which would be given to you by a wizard, but he doesn't care about you, and makes you go get 8 items (nothing expensive, of course) before giving it to you. You then have to use it on the yew trees, to get rid of the termites.

 

 

 

Now, that wizard will be Miztog, who you have to give the beads to to complete imp catcher. You will have to complete that quest first. (Watch the autoers try to make a script for this!)

 

 

 

Furthurmore, I think that the quest should have a 12 quest point requirement. I have the Quests you could do as a lv 3 skiller listed here.

 

 

 

Cook's Assistant-1 QP

 

Doric's Quest- 1QP

 

Ernest The Chicken- 4 QP

 

Goblin Diplomacy- 5 QP

 

Sheep Shearer - 1QP

 

Witch's Potion - 1QP

 

Imp catcher - 1QP

 

There are more you could do, but these are the ones i'd requemend.

 

 

 

Having the Imp Catcher and Quest Point requirements is a great idea MrBowser. Like you said, writing a script to complete Imp catcher would be crazy and if you remember the imps hardly drop beads, so this wuold effectively slow all of the autoers down. I still don't see how anyone could write a script for Imp catcher. All of your ideas for this were great. Good job!

 

 

 

I'm really, really greatful for your help on this guys but I have to say there is 1 small problem. I was training mage on my pure (dtji3) on the lesser in the wizards tower and I saw HUNDREDS of bots and lvl 3's with woodcutting in the highscores completing the imp catcher quest. I don't know how they do it but they are. Seriously, just go up there and wait for about 10 minutes and you're practically guaranteed to see it happen.

 

 

 

But thanks for the help!

[MrBowser]

It's not the imp catcher quest; It's the Rune mysteries quest... And I doubt that you looked at them in the highscores; I'm sure you just assumed. They would be going to do the quest so they can mine ess...

 

 

 

First of all, If any lv 3 did complete Imp Catcher, they would have to be a real person, wether a skiller, or a chinese goldfarmer, it would have to be a person controling the character... There is no way you could get the beads for imp catcher with a program... Now, it would be possible for them to start buying Beads 1-5kea, which would make a market for them, so I sugest making beads untradeble.

 

 

 

About the killing imps = combat xp, and the mage xp from Imp Catcher,

 

 

 

JAGEX HAS STATED THAT ALL-AROUND CHARACTERS WOULD HAVE AN ADVANTAGE OVER THOSE WHO FOCUSED SOLEY ON ONE SKILL.

 

 

 

So, if you want to cut yews, suck it up! You're gonna have to get a mage lv of 8, and maybe 1 combat lv...

 

 

 

To the thing about paying money, the autoers will just get it traded to them from another character they control.

 

 

 

The herb thing also is far to complicated for a non-member's quest.

 

 

 

In hindsight, all non-member's quest are super simple.

[Zaaps1]

 

 

 

The herb thing also is far to complicated for a non-member's quest.

 

 

 

In hindsight, all non-member's quest are super simple.

 

 

 

Well, it's a start at least. :D

 

 

 

Maybe you must pay the fee to enter the area, then collect the potion which is already inside.

[sylvawarrior]

runescape should make it so you cant cut yew logs without being over lvl 15

[None2None]

runescape should make it so you cant cut yew logs without being over lvl 15

Ha, and screw over skillers? great idea =D>

 

 

 

(I hate people like you who are that closed minded ... At least schmuall took us into account...)

 

 

 

and schmuall, I heard you say that writing a script would be hard... and to be completely honest, you're relying on the fact that macroing programs arn't able to take things from the client, which I believe they can... Therefore they could easily get all the IDs for the quest and etc.

 

 

 

TBH - Writing a script would be cake... Knowing a bit of Java myself... If I had the resources, I bet I could make a script to do the whole quest in less than 500 lines of code :?

 

 

 

So I don't support the idea in general, sorry... It will just have to be more direct in shutting down the bots, not patching the game...patches can just be opened again. But if nothing's there to open them, they can't be...

 

 

 

I personally believe the idea's too small to work for more than a week... We just need something perminent.

[MrBowser]

OH, so you're going to make code to hunt imps, and about 20 of them,are you?

 

 

 

Good bloody luck!

[deyan2]

Well my idea isn't the same, but comes close near:

 

 

 

You need to have 10 questpionts and completed the yew logs quest to cut this tree. 



This way skillers can do whatever they want to (after completing some quests offcourse) while autoÃÆÃâÃâërs wouldn't like the update because they don't want to waste much time on their account, just powerwoodcut (or use other autosoftware offcourse) before they got banned, that's the way they are thinking. This way you slow down autoÃÆÃâÃâërs a bit so they will not be be able to make 100's of accounts at the same time, they first need to complete a few quests one by one on every single account before they are be able to do the things they are not alloud to for a short time. I think the best thing is that there comes out a totally new quest which requires lvl 60 woodcutting (and 10 QP) even before you are be able to start the quest. This way Jagex can allready ban them for autoÃÆÃâÃâïng on normal trees, oaks and willows, so they haven't got any cash at all and only wasted time. This might also work in the memberarea, simply let the green dragonhunters complete a few quests before they are alloud to kill green dragons. 



Offcourse this is only a way to slow them down a bit and it won't be possible to remove all the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs ingame this way unlike my first idea but whatever, although I shouldn't like this update as well (I don't really like doing quests), I would still appriciate it if loads of the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs are gone or slowed down. Nevertheless I still think it is better to let them pay for every single account because it doesn't only take time for them to let them macro, but that will even cost them cash if they have a bit of bad luck. ;) 



"Omg I just started a new account, now all the willow trees ingame are full of autosoftware, it's hardly impossible to train to wc lvl 60 now :@" 

*(You should have liked my first idea, but whatever... There is a place in F2p with loads of willows close near each other without any single autoer at all, go to falador east bank, walk south, just around the wall around falador, then go west, you will see the crafting guild, go another more west and you will find loads of willows together without autoÃÆÃâÃâërs ;) and yes in F2p). 





The quest might be something like this: 

requisites before starting the quest: 

- 10 QP (you can easely get from other quests, every normal player can, also skillers and guys like that) 

- Wc lvl 60 (they get that while autoÃÆÃâÃâïng on willows, oaks and even normal logs, if they get caught autoÃÆÃâÃâïng on that than they will probably never ever make it till the yew trees) 

- Having a item good normal players can make that isn't buyeble in shops, like a rune axe for example *this is just a example, it might become a totally other item also, there also isn't sayed that you might lose this item during the quest* (this item will be the evidence they are actually part of the game by trading other persons and not autoÃÆÃâÃâërs who get their axe from "Bob axes" and are just powerautoÃÆÃâÃâïng and nothing else till they got banned. Next to that Jagex will more easy be be able to see who is the "main" from all the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs, because autoÃÆÃâÃâërs won't take time to find a normal player who is selling this item, but they will probably get it from 1 main. So if there exist 100 accounts like auto1, auto2, auto3,4,5,6.....99, auto100 and they all get their rune axe from this main than this main will most likely really be the owner off all the accounts and can get banned also so he doesn't have any advantage out of his actions and the coolest thing is that the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs will automatically show who is their owner this way!!!) 









Bad points: 

- AutoÃÆÃâÃâërs can still give it a try by completing these things and go on autoÃÆÃâÃâïng anyway 

- Some pure wcers will have a little trouble now, they can't powertrain a normal way any more and must now complete a few other things also. 

- AutoÃÆÃâÃâërs will have higher other skills as woodcutting now and that will make Jagex more doubting or they actually really are autoÃÆÃâÃâërs. 





Good points: 

- AutoÃÆÃâÃâërs will get more trouble 

- There doesn't exist software to complete such a lot quests (most green dragon autoÃÆÃâÃâërs for example also haven't finished dragonslayer for example, unlike normal players), so autoÃÆÃâÃâërs will have to put some time in every single account themself instead of letting software doing the work. 

- There won't be 100rds of autoÃÆÃâÃâërs from one person started at the same time any more (or those scriptwriters will have a lot of work soon). 

- The main will be traced more easy. 

- A update for F2p 

 

 

 

I hope you can do something with this text, you may have it, I don't care if you claim you tought this out, or if you say that I actually tought it out.

 

I just want that this update will ever come ;) :D

[Zuit]

i think you are been a bit too kind by only haveing 1 quest. why not make them do a quest for willows aswell that would really slow them down :-k

 

 

 

or even better make them have a str lvl for the different axes e.g 40 for rune (i know that this would anoy skillers but its there fault for now training all skills)

[deyan2]

i think you are been a bit too kind by only haveing 1 quest. why not make them do a quest for willows aswell that would really slow them down :-k

 

 

 

or even better make them have a str lvl for the different axes e.g 40 for rune (i know that this would anoy skillers but its there fault for now training all skills)

 

If you make quests for willows also than they will get their QP faster so nah, not a good idea. Skillers made their choises, I think they shouldn't suffer because of the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs... :notalk: :wink: :)

[Zuit]

i think you are been a bit too kind by only haveing 1 quest. why not make them do a quest for willows aswell that would really slow them down :-k

 

 

 

or even better make them have a str lvl for the different axes e.g 40 for rune (i know that this would anoy skillers but its there fault for now training all skills)

 

If you make quests for willows also than they will get their QP faster so nah, not a good idea. Skillers made their choises, I think they shouldn't suffer because of the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs... :notalk: :wink: :)

 

 

 

 

 

ok them make them do allthe f2p quests before they can cut yews

[deyan2]

i think you are been a bit too kind by only haveing 1 quest. why not make them do a quest for willows aswell that would really slow them down :-k

 

 

 

or even better make them have a str lvl for the different axes e.g 40 for rune (i know that this would anoy skillers but its there fault for now training all skills)

 

If you make quests for willows also than they will get their QP faster so nah, not a good idea. Skillers made their choises, I think they shouldn't suffer because of the autoÃÆÃâÃâërs... :notalk: :wink: :)

 

 

 

 

 

ok them make them do allthe f2p quests before they can cut yews

 

 

 

:roll: offcourse not, skillers can't complete all quests without raising combat. A combat lvl 3 person must be be able and alloud to cut yew logs I think ;)

[Omar]

But, wouldn't the macroers simply do it as real people? Like people actually clicking?

[Zaaps1]

But, wouldn't the macroers simply do it as real people? Like people actually clicking?

 

 

 

I'd really slow them down then wouldn't it? And that's the point. :wink:

[0ne_time]

personally, the original idea is good. But the ideas most people are adding on are HORRIBLE and THOUGHTLESS.

 

 

 

I support the original idea. I don't support needing 12 qp and having to have done imp catcher and all that stuff. Think like you're a skiller. You wont like that.

[ieatlotsofrice]

i support...why be a macro when you have to do all this stuff right?

[sammyboy894]

oops :oops: #-o double post

[sammyboy894]

i support i recon its a great idea :thumbsup: :thumbup:

[deyan2]

personally, the original idea is good. But the ideas most people are adding on are HORRIBLE and THOUGHTLESS.

 

 

 

I support the original idea. I don't support needing 12 qp and having to have done imp catcher and all that stuff. Think like you're a skiller. You wont like that.

 

I don't agree, most normal persons (also F2p) got over 20QP, but autoÃÆÃâÃâërs? No they don't... That's also the reason why green dragonautoÃÆÃâÃâërs don't have a rune platebody, simply because they think it's a waste of time to complete dragonslayer. If you are talking about "THOUGHTLESS" you really need to think twice where you are talking about. If you only have to complete one quest than the same thing will happen as with rune essence a long time ago :(

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

deyan2

[Drakolord7]

Its obvious no-one has post for a while so,

 

 

 

bump

 

 

 

and support if I forgot to say that before

[FalconBomba]

support as it is better than randoms. But I have to say this could be pretty easy to macro around with a bit better software. Also, this doesn't in any way hinder gold farmers.

 

 

 

(I know how to make macros, their pretty easy, never done it for rs or any other game but, they help when looking for research paper sources and such. It is like I have 20 fingers : )

[wizjany]

Why I support:

 

1. A new f2p quest (finally)

 

2. It gets rid of/ slows down macroing

 

 

 

I'd rather get a new quest than get rid of macroing but both together will do.

[jedislayer14]

nice idea, i thought it was going to be a quest where u need to report X amount of autoers before u can finish. o we could make a mini game for f2p wheru u get points on how many autoers u report that get banned, and u could get cool armor that is better than rune and untradeable (but not better than granet) that would own, and it would get people to report macros

[Omar]

Something is wrong with your idea, but I can't seem to pinpoint it. :? :?: :!:

 

Oh, yeah, people who PK couldn't get the armor. So you can go kill greaters in the wild without being afraid someone is going to PK you.

[blaah]

I support it :thumbsup: