Jagex have messed up...

[sirgudi]

Hi,

 

so let me get this right...

 

 

 

Runescape 2 Age limit = 13+

 

Films Rated 12 age limit = 12

 

 

 

Blocked crude words on runescape = [hide=Crude Words - Read if you are 12+, no younger]Crap

 

Piss

 

Gay

 

Frikin[/hide]

 

Blocked crude words on 12 rated film = 0 of the above

 

 

 

 

 

anyone else agree?

 

 

 

and mods, don't lock. i'm pretty sure that you had to say you we're 13+ to be allowed to sign up for this forum, and i blocked them,they are read at the persons own risk.

 

 

 

 

 

Discuss.

[swordwindtrtrtrt]

Jagex should take notice of things like this. Im sick of having to cater to little 12 year old crettins who's ears will fall off if they hear those words.

[Mr_Hyde1218]

adolescents these days are exposed to way worse language than the words on that list anyway. i agree, theres too much catering to angry parents/anti-video game freaks in the world, but hey, what can you do?

[Mayjest]

Runescape's rating is what is known as a 'self-rated' title. The age limit is set by jagex themselves, and is therefore arbitrary. i.e., what they say goes. The film board (I think it's called the BFCC in the UK, might be wrong though) has absolutely no say in how Jagex's censor works, nor do they set an age limit. This is because, for a game to be officially rated in the UK (i.e., get that nice shiny 18 sticker you see on GTA games) the publisher has to submit it, rather than it automatically getting rated, like with films. Which is why 'adult' titles get the rating while those designed for families don't - because that 15 or 18 sticker is good publicity. And it's a responsible decision by the publishers, but mostly the publicity.

 

 

 

PEGI does not currently rate titles resigned for online-only play. This is to soon change when they introduce a new system (although when this happens is unknown). When that is released, Jagex can submit Runescape to PEGI for rating. It will most likely get 6+, possibly higher due to the difficulty of 'play'. However, this is the minimum Jagex much subscribe to - if they wish to set stricter standard they can.

 

 

 

The above point is moot however, as Jagex is currently under no restrictions, demands or standards other than those set by players and players parents.

[Capone_Sabre]

Add "Damn" to the list.

 

 

 

You are completely correct. The filters are totally ridiculous. The language in 12 rated films can be actually quite bad, along with explicit content. Jagex are way over the top with the filter.

[Evrae]

I suspect that there is a quite a large difference between those words used in context in films, and those words used directed towards you in the in-game chat.

 

 

 

Though one word I want unblocked is 'homo-'. The chat blocks it, even when part of a word. It means 'the same', for flips sake, whats wrong with that? For that matter whats wrong with homosexuality that even an inadvertant mention must be censored?

 

 

 

Censoring that just bugs me because there are so many legitimate words that contain it.

[Harrington]

Yeah, I think most of us would agree that the RS censor is too oppresive. Personally, I would prefer it if you could customise the level of censorship you want to experience ingame i.e. pick a pre-defined level of censorship

[Zaaps1]

It's not thier fault. It a law passed in the US where you must be at least 13 to participate in online communities and multiplayer games. Every game has the limit, try it out. Of course, with parental consent most games let the person play anyway, that's part of the law. (You could've done this when registering for Tip.It I believe).

 

 

 

RuneScape does not allow this for some reason, but they do allow you to play with your family, which is trash since that would be account sharing...hypocrites.....

 

 

 

In addition, there's a lot more risk online than in movies. You can't get your identity stolen by watching a movie, but you can online.

 

 

 

Btw, add various historical events, wars, and figures to that list.

[swordwindtrtrtrt]

It's not thier fault. It a law passed in the US where you must be at least 13 to participate in online communities and multiplayer games. Every game has the limit, try it out. Of course, with parental consent most games let the person play anyway, that's part of the law. (You could've done this when registering for Tip.It I believe).

 

 

 

RuneScape does not allow this for some reason, but they do allow you to play with your family, which is trash since that would be account sharing...hypocrites.....

 

 

 

In addition, there's a lot more risk online than in movies. You can't get your identity stolen by watching a movie, but you can online.

 

 

 

Btw, add various historical events, wars, and figures to that list.

Read the post first.

[x1992x]

i will have to say yes. JAGEX should make it 10+ to play the game with thta filter.

 

 

 

and danm/dammit should be alowed in the game

 

 

 

and i think they should make the censor more friendly on the server.

 

 

 

exsample. the filter blocks meny swedish word on swedish world. i think they should customize(typo) the filter to each world! :-k

[krisc6]

if the age limit is 13 and over and you only allow that age then only set perameters with the chat box to language suitable for ages 13 but yet still ok for a 30-40 year old.

 

 

 

its almost as if jagex is setting lower perameters to allow younger people to play the game when in the rules it says you shoulds be any younger than 13.

[sirgudi]

dont spam rude words plz...i just picked a few of the ones i would use most lol.

[justcallmedaddy]

Piss shouldn't be on there. :-k But sucks should.

[Soma2035]

Jagex is NOT decide to require players to be age 13 or older before making an account. America's government decided that, and since much of Jagex's customers are AMERICANS, they felt they needed to cater to that rule.

 

 

 

Also, whether or not those words are censored in a movie is irrelevant to whether or not it's appropriate. Most of those words are disgusting words that people use when they have a limited vocabulary, or when they can find no other way to express themselves.

 

 

 

I personally think that the censor is great. It really bothers me how people have to resort to swear words all the time nowadays.

[mario_sunny]

Yeah, I think most of us would agree that the RS censor is too oppresive. Personally, I would prefer it if you could customise the level of censorship you want to experience ingame i.e. pick a pre-defined level of censorship

 

 

 

I think jagex figures that half the people that sign up to play runescape are lying and are under 13. And what can jagex do to stop them? They have no idea if they're lying or not. Because of this there are a large number of players below, and even well below the age of 12. So jagex makes their censors like their hosting a bunch of six year olds- which is a smart idea because they will also get the thumbs-up with parents for censoring so many words that six-year olds should know yet ;) .

[Adam007]

You don't need to bring in the 12+ film industry or whatever allowed words list into this. There's no universally accepted list of words for an age group. On daytime TV you hear swearing, and that's accessible to people under 13 too. Jagex is fine in implementing a censor, and in my opinion it's more to protect the sanity of older players than anything.

 

 

 

Obviously there is a small fraction of people who haven't and shouldn't unnecessarily be exposed to that language, but the fact of the matter is that if you give these prepubescent kids the ability to swear for the first time in their lives (their parents hopefully disallow it to the right extent), they'll go crazy and act like idiots because they can.

 

 

 

And nobody wants to hear people swear just because they can. It's like when a toddler picks up a swear word and keeps repeating it because parents react when he/she says it. It's just annoying to hear.

[sirgudi]

 

And nobody wants to hear people swear just because they can.

 

 

 

and thats why you have rules one. no flooding the chat screen.

[sirgudi]

Yeah, I think most of us would agree that the RS censor is too oppresive. Personally, I would prefer it if you could customise the level of censorship you want to experience ingame i.e. pick a pre-defined level of censorship

 

 

 

I think jagex figures that half the people that sign up to play runescape are lying and are under 13. And what can jagex do to stop them? They have no idea if they're lying or not. Because of this there are a large number of players below, and even well below the age of 12. So jagex makes their censors like their hosting a bunch of six year olds- which is a smart idea because they will also get the thumbs-up with parents for censoring so many words that six-year olds should know yet ;) .

 

 

 

 

 

if the parents had any sense, they would read up on the game, and especially the age requirements. also, 90% of the players under 10 years old are probally F2P...so why are they catering to them?

[Adam007]

 

And nobody wants to hear people swear just because they can.

 

 

 

and thats why you have rules one. no flooding the chat screen.

 

Which covers about one out of the hundreds of annoyances we'd have to deal with.

[mario_sunny]

Yeah, I think most of us would agree that the RS censor is too oppresive. Personally, I would prefer it if you could customise the level of censorship you want to experience ingame i.e. pick a pre-defined level of censorship

 

 

 

I think jagex figures that half the people that sign up to play runescape are lying and are under 13. And what can jagex do to stop them? They have no idea if they're lying or not. Because of this there are a large number of players below, and even well below the age of 12. So jagex makes their censors like their hosting a bunch of six year olds- which is a smart idea because they will also get the thumbs-up with parents for censoring so many words that six-year olds should know yet ;) .

 

 

 

 

 

if the parents had any sense, they would read up on the game, and especially the age requirements. also, 90% of the players under 10 years old are probally F2P...so why are they catering to them?

 

 

 

Because jagex still cares about f2p, don't think they totally ignore them. If they don't cater to f2p then possible members in the future who are f2p now might quit.

[pandaownage]

Seriously, i know someone who knows a 6 year old who plays :shock:

 

 

 

But most 13 year olds know all of those words and don't care to hear them.

 

 

 

They either hear them at school or elsewhere

 

But I used to go to a private school and still heard about every single one that they block daily. That is when I was 11-12 :lol:

[n64jive]

really no need to use those words anyway...as they will only be used for flaming

[Iv_Green_vI]

Meh who really cares?

[piman1053]

Why should J allow these words? Who gains from them? You know that everybody will just abuse the privilege.

 

 

 

I don't see why people would have to say these words.

[Dragonlordjl]

I agree that piss, damn, crap, frickin, and phone should be uncensored. However, I think they were right in censoring 'gay.' Many people I've met in RS are immature, and would overuse that word and also be discriminatory.