Rc pking

[mario_sunny]

A couple days ago I was browsing tif's general forums when I came across a thread concerning rc pking. As I viewed the replies I saw some negative comments going towards rc pkers; generally false accusations(i.e. all rc pkers are no lifes) from angry runecrafters.

 

 

 

Are all rc pkers really no-lifes? Do they really stand on one hill for hours just to get a free glory? Do all of them teleport the second they are attacked by another pker? These accusations seemed very far-fetched to me, so I decided to do some research.

 

 

 

I interviewed three different rc pkers; all whom said they had rc pked 5+ times. These people were chosen at random near the zamorak mage who teleports you to the abyss. Below you will find the exact three interviews; absolutely no spelling/grammar mistakes taken out, exactly what they said, or I suppose in better terms, typed. These interviews were taken in a private IRC channel. Their names will remain unknown.

 

 

 

First, why do you rc pk?

 

 

 

Well mostly for the glories. Having 85+ magic helps lol. But sometimes the rcers get away. Yea mostly for the glories, I guess dhide to if the rcer is wearing it.

 

 

 

Do you enjoy rc pking over "regular" pking?

 

 

 

It's easier rofl. Some rcers are pretty dumb out theer, you can just bring a dds and spec them twice. Yea but most rcers are smart.

 

 

 

You regularly pk too?

 

 

 

Yes sometimes. Oh tbh I dont really pk alot. I like to train my wcing(91 atm) and mining(72) and some other skills. I mostly pk wen Im bored.

 

 

 

If another pker attacks you, will you fight back?

 

 

 

Yep. Just because I rc pk doesnt meen Im not a pker.

 

 

 

Has there ever been an incident where an rcer teased you?

 

 

 

Uhhmm not reely. Sorry.

 

 

 

That's ok. How do you feel about the community viewing you as the "lowest form of pker?"

 

 

 

I just ignore it tbh. I can pk whoever I want and jagix has no rules against it.

 

 

 

Do you consider yourself "well mannered?"

 

 

 

Yea. I do.

 

 

 

Why do you rc pk?

 

 

 

For glory ammies. Sometimes I sell my glories and when I'm low on them I pk a few.

 

 

 

Do you enjoy rc pking over "regular" pking?

 

 

 

Yes I do. It's basically just easier, although sometimes it gets boring waiting for an rcer your level to come by, and one you actually have a chance of killign.

 

 

 

So you don't regular pk?

 

 

 

Errr lol no... I just like rc pking. Oh I had this one bad thing last week where an rcer actually pulled out a dds while he ran by me, teleblocked me, and in three specials killed me. Never saw that coming. Oh whoops, sorry that was a bit off tpoic. Oh btw will you release my name in this interview, I don't want people knowing this.

 

 

 

No I won't, your name will be not be included.

 

 

 

Ok good...

 

 

 

If another pker attacks you, will you fight back?

 

 

 

It kinda depends. If the guy looks weak(like no armor dds) then I'll try to kill him. If it's some guy in full dharoks though I might run away!

 

 

 

Has there ever been an incident where an rcer teased you?

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

How do you feel about the community viewing you as the "lowest form of pker?"

 

 

 

If someone calls me that I'll just turn on him. I don't like people saying that.

 

 

 

Do you consider yourself "well mannered?"

 

 

 

I suppose so. I try to treat others with respect and expect the same back.

 

 

 

That's it, thank you!

 

 

 

No problem =)

 

 

 

Why do you rc pk?

 

 

 

Mainly for fun, I do it with my friends when they invite me. Sometimes we get a glory if we're lucky.

 

 

 

Do you enjoy rc pking over "regular" pking?

 

 

 

Never tried regular pking :P . Rc pking is just some thing I do with my friends. I'm just one of thos guys who don't pk.

 

 

 

Well you just answered the next question, moving on.

 

 

 

oh lol OK

 

 

 

If another pker attacks you, will you fight back?

 

 

 

I would probably run >.<.

 

 

 

Has there ever been an incident where an rcer teased you?

 

 

 

Yes once there was a 93 who passed me; everytime he would say "haha noob" when my snare missed.

 

 

 

How did you handle that situation?

 

 

 

I logged off, I became too mad at the guy to waste my snares on him. He had full black d'hide.

 

 

 

How do you feel about the community viewing you as the "lowest form of pker?"

 

 

 

I don't really pay attention to that. Although sometimes it makes me mad. I'll say again rc pking is just some thing I do with my friends. I'm not serious about it.

 

 

 

Ok. Do you consider yourself "well mannered?"

 

 

 

I guess.

 

 

 

That's all, thank you!

 

 

 

Glad to be part of the interview :PPPPP

 

 

 

 

 

I am an abyssal runecrafter myself(82 rc) who actively uses the abyss. From personal experience nearly every rc pker I have come by is well-mannered. They don't start screaming their head off and cussing at me, something I expected before I started abyssal runecrafting. I've talked to many rc pkers while observing the edge wilderness with no armor, they are just like normal pkers who just want to pk.

 

 

 

Personally, I think every rcer should accept the fact that there will always be rc pkers, whether they like it or not. You enter the wilderness, you take the risk of being player-killed. Jagex made the enterance to the abyss in the wilderness for a reason- the abyss would be incredibly unbalanced without the danger of real world people(pkers) killing you.

 

 

 

Rcers need to stop complaining and adapt. They need to think of ways to avoid them, dodge them, but not whine and moan. Can you think of any point in Runescape history where jagex listened to whiners and complainers? Yes, there are a few, but a handful of the updates you see coming out are actually thought out by well-mannered players who have posted their idea in the suggestions forum, not the rants forum.

 

 

 

Rc pkers are just like normal pkers; they just want to pk.

[Mithril_Max]

with this thread you just owned so many rants =p

 

 

 

Rc pking isnt bad IMO, if people werent meant to pk there why would it be in the wild?

[nerdattack16]

I just think RC PKing is something that people need to get over it. The Abyss isn't needed for runecrafting, and you can't stop them. Silly rants about "ong i h8 rc pkers i lost my glory" aren't going to do good at all.

[ChickyBee32]

I just think RC PKing is something that people need to get over it. The Abyss isn't needed for runecrafting, and you can't stop them. Silly rants about "ong i h8 rc pkers i lost my glory" aren't going to do good at all.

 

 

 

+1

 

 

 

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Risk vs Reward.

 

 

 

Personally I don't see the point in a no-challenge kill, but then, I don't PK at all, so *shrugs*

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

It's a fact of life. You're out there, you're fair game. Although I haven't bothered myself (not really much of a PKer at all), it's just something natural to expect. Saying that RC PKers shouldn't exist is like saying the KBD shouldn't throw fireballs. Just learn to expect it as it comes up.

 

 

 

Even if two out of three of the interviewees will choose flight when another PKer shows up... But that's another story.

[walka92]

i rc pk sometimes, i dont know y ppl think its so bad

 

 

 

 

 

abys is in wildy, they put it there for a reason

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also, it is kinda hard

 

 

 

if u tb first, the mage teles them, its not effected by tb

 

 

 

if u tangle, they tele

 

 

 

 

 

u gotta b fast and lucky to get a kill tbh

[Bobbington]

it has not changed my opinion on them at all..... basically everybody said they are only willing to fight if they think they will win, if there is a chance of them losing ..... they will run straight away.

 

 

 

On adverage (generaly speaking of all pkers) they are less mature, ruder, and harder to get on with than non pkers.

 

 

 

Then you get RC pkers, who are the same...... but lazy...... There is no challenge in RC pking, they just do it for the glories, they have no skill at pking and really really need to find somthing better to do with their time than standing on a hill waiting for an unarmed skiller to come past.

 

The RCer loses more than the pker gains and with the price of glories these days, what a pker can gain is really tiny.

 

 

 

The reason the abyiss is in the wilderness if not for RC pkers, but it was for the "general risk of the wilderness".

 

 

 

Whilst I can respect a talented pker (even if I dont like them) I can's stand the RC pkers.

[mario_sunny]

it has not changed my opinion on them at all..... basically everybody said they are only willing to fight if they think they will win, if there is a chance of them losing ..... they will run straight away.

 

 

 

On adverage (generaly speaking of all pkers) they are less mature, ruder, and harder to get on with than non pkers.

 

 

 

Then you get RC pkers, who are the same...... but lazy...... There is no challenge in RC pking, they just do it for the glories, they have no skill at pking and really really need to find somthing better to do with their time than standing on a hill waiting for an unarmed skiller to come past.

 

The RCer loses more than the pker gains and with the price of glories these days, what a pker can gain is really tiny.

 

 

 

The reason the abyiss is in the wilderness if not for RC pkers, but it was for the "general risk of the wilderness".

 

 

 

Whilst I can respect a talented pker (even if I dont like them) I can's stand the RC pkers.

 

 

 

First off, I'm glad you didn't make this an issue of flatout saying "OMGZ I HATE RC PKERS THEY SHOULD ALL DIE," those rants annoy me so much. You're actually one of the few who hasn't used an excessive amount of CAPS or cussing. :?

 

 

 

I can agree that rc pking is easier, but I do not necessarly view them as "lazy." I say let them stand on a hill for hours on end, it's their choice if they want to be bored to death. Some people rc pk not necessarly for the glories, as one of my interviewers states, but for fun.

 

 

 

So, I don't agree that they are lazy, infact some of them will fight back when attacked by a pker. They just want to pk like every other pker out there.

[Zaaps1]

I think if abyssal rc'ers should deal with it themselves if they want pkers gone.

 

 

 

I met this one guy who would bring a few snares with him while runecrafting. He would snare every pker he could then run. Getting away from the pkers is easy enough, and its only your own fault you got pked. It does get annoying at times, but on the next run you can always pull out your pking gear and atack him :D

[Bobbington]

First off, I'm glad you didn't make this an issue of flatout saying "OMGZ I HATE RC PKERS THEY SHOULD ALL DIE," those rants annoy me so much. You're actually one of the few who hasn't used an excessive amount of CAPS or cussing. :?

 

 

 

I can agree that rc pking is easier, but I do not necessarly view them as "lazy." I say let them stand on a hill for hours on end, it's their choice if they want to be bored to death. Some people rc pk not necessarly for the glories, as one of my interviewers states, but for fun.

 

 

 

So, I don't agree that they are lazy, infact some of them will fight back when attacked by a pker. They just want to pk like every other pker out there.

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing annoys me more when sombody cant explain why they dont like somthing...... mindless ranting never helped anyone :P

 

 

 

Even if you dont think there is an issue with abby pkers, I am sure people would find it harder to claim they are not the "lowest" of all pker types. Even tag teaming atleast involves some skill and effort put into the pk, but with abby pkers it's just not hard.

 

 

 

*snare*

 

*spec spec*

 

*slash*

 

 

 

DEAD

 

 

 

 

 

"I won't turn around and say OMG dragon dagger over powered!" althugh I would claim our charicters defence aginst slash attacks is too low.... (but thats a differnt rant :P)

 

 

 

All I am traying to say is RC PKing is PKing for the PKer who cant PK, it requires less than a 10th of the skill and method of a real pker, and it picks on skillers, who tend to be the weakest people in the wildernss.

 

 

 

Now you could claim that i am saying this as a guy who is always getting Abby pked.... but as a level 117 I am too high for most of them, yet the issue still annoys me.

 

 

 

Abby pking is the lowest forum of pking.

[Love_Actually]

Is that supposed to convince me? Lol.

 

 

 

The first one was unable to spell properly. He used "yea" to answer if he had manners, apparently he has no manners for the english language.

 

 

 

The two others weren't as idiotic, but they just seemed random, like "Uh I rc pker cuz I'm bored..." Lol?

 

 

 

Rc pking is pathetic, it always will. They could just abby RC instead, they would make more money.

[Skate4u]

my view of rc is that its a easy way to get glories if u don't want to lose glories wear abbysal bracelet if u can't afford oh well just make nats bye selling ess to general store not sure if that still works though :P

[Bobbington]

most people dont care that much about the glorys...... it's the pouches that I dont like losing.

[junkiejeff]

 

Personally, I think every rcer should accept the fact that there will always be rc pkers, whether they like it or not. You enter the wilderness, you take the risk of being player-killed. Jagex made the enterance to the abyss in the wilderness for a reason- the abyss would be incredibly unbalanced without the danger of real world people(pkers) killing you.

 

 

 

 

You just said it all.

 

The abyss was placed there for a reason.

 

So there always is a chance they will get killed.

[Teeg]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Risk vs Reward.

 

 

 

Personally I don't see the point in a no-challenge kill, but then, I don't PK at all, so *shrugs*

 

 

 

 

 

Where do you get this "risk v reward" nonsense. You probably saw someone else mention it and thought it sounded like a good quote. I hate this type of sound-bite, which has no basis in truth. Did Jagex use it? I can't remember that.

 

 

 

If there is a "risk v reward" culture in Runescape, where does Pest Control fit in? NO "risk", GOOD (was VERY GOOD) "reward"?

 

 

 

Answers on a postcard please!

 

 

 

Teeg

[ChickyBee32]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Risk vs Reward.

 

 

 

Personally I don't see the point in a no-challenge kill, but then, I don't PK at all, so *shrugs*

 

 

 

 

 

Where do you get this "risk v reward" nonsense. You probably saw someone else mention it and thought it sounded like a good quote. I hate this type of sound-bite, which has no basis in truth. Did Jagex use it? I can't remember that.

 

 

 

If there is a "risk v reward" culture in Runescape, where does Pest Control fit in? NO "risk", GOOD (was VERY GOOD) "reward"?

 

 

 

Answers on a postcard please!

 

 

 

Teeg

 

 

 

Well I have an awesome postcard of Sydney Harbour Bridge at night, but I'm too lazy to sort out the scanner atm, so that part you'll have to go without! :P

 

 

 

It's my own personal variation on 'If something seems too easy or too good to be true, it usually is.' There are very few things in life that yield a high reward and are also low risk. As for Runescape... it is largely the same. The stronger creatures you battle, the better the drops are.

 

 

 

For Abyss RCing specifically the 'reward' is shaving time off your runs. It's possible to RC without going anywhere near the Wilderness and the way I see it is that if people want to RC quicker, they should accept the risks.

 

 

 

As for PC... :roll: *sigh* I'm not even going to start.

 

 

 

Did that help any?

[poopskin25]

I see no problem with RC pkers, it's a legitimate tactic, and the RCers they kill are well aware of the risk they run whenever they enter the wilderness. I just think it's kind of funny how upset people get over it when they are not doing anything wrong. It's the RCers that are the problem, if you don't like RC PKers, don't RC where they PK, it's that simple...

[hybrid2hell]

Is that supposed to convince me? Lol.

 

 

 

The first one was unable to spell properly. He used "yea" to answer if he had manners, apparently he has no manners for the english language.

 

 

 

The two others weren't as idiotic, but they just seemed random, like "Uh I rc pker cuz I'm bored..." Lol?

 

 

 

Rc pking is pathetic, it always will. They could just abby RC instead, they would make more money.

 

 

 

Saying "Lol" is basically the same thing as saying "yea" They are both abbreviations.

 

 

 

OT: Personally, I don't think it is that bad. The wilderness is the wilderness. You risk getting pked every time you walk in.

 

 

 

But then again, i guess i don't know much, as i am not a member :XD:

[ltb2006]

Interesting,the only one I wouldn't flame is the first one because he would fight back,something that rc pkers barely do. Yes it's risk vs reward,but that doesn't mean to say it isn't pathetic.

[Teeg]

 

Well I have an awesome postcard of Sydney Harbour Bridge at night, but I'm too lazy to sort out the scanner atm, so that part you'll have to go without! :P

 

 

 

It's my own personal variation on 'If something seems too easy or too good to be true, it usually is.' There are very few things in life that yield a high reward and are also low risk. As for Runescape... it is largely the same. The stronger creatures you battle, the better the drops are.

 

 

 

For Abyss RCing specifically the 'reward' is shaving time off your runs. It's possible to RC without going anywhere near the Wilderness and the way I see it is that if people want to RC quicker, they should accept the risks.

 

 

 

As for PC... :roll: *sigh* I'm not even going to start.

 

 

 

Did that help any?

 

 

 

*Sigh*

 

 

 

I understand the concept of "risk v reward", I just don't understand why people apply it to runescape when, to my knowledge, Jagex have not.

 

 

 

I can spend hours fighting high level monsters with NO risk to myself. I can cut magic trees, fish sharks, range dragons, make potions etc., etc. with NO risk to myself. Jagex have added new areas for easier skilling e.g. monkfish, with NO risk.

 

 

 

Why is it then, that only runecrafting falls into this category of "risk v reward"?

 

 

 

Ignoring the facts against you "as for PC, I'm not even going to start" is tantamount to burying your head in the sand. It goes against what you're saying so you pretend not to see it. The theory is specious at best.

 

 

 

It sounds like I'm having a go at you personally. That is not the case, but I've heard this argument about "risk v reward" from many people in the past, but strangely not from Jagex.

 

 

 

regards

 

 

 

Teeg

[Mico]

If abbys Runecrafting was not in the wildenress, bots would probably be made to ess run there. You know what a profit that would be? One could craft 500 essence in a minute.

[Bobbington]

Probaly not, they would have to train combat pretty hard do get through the abyss monsters.

 

 

 

it would be no differnt than it is now...... autoers are too low to be attacked by pkers.

[sup3rpur]

i think many of you are looking at the wrong thing here. i am a runecrafter that uses the abyss. im only 68 rc but ive done most of my runecrafting via abyss.

 

 

 

i dont care about losing my glory, o dang i lost 70k its gonna take me a whole 15 minutes of runecrafting to make it back.

 

 

 

the fact that i lose my pouches is what bothers me. these pouches take about 3 or 4 hours most of the time to get back, causing me to lose about 1.2m i could have made rcing. heck, if i get tb ensnared (tho im 92 mage so they usually splash) ill just give the person my glory. its not a big deal i just dont like wasting my time getting back something because some1 wanted a quick 100k in stuff :roll:

 

 

 

so to every rc pker out there, why make 100k an hour and risk getting pked wen you could raise a skill and make more money per hour

[ugafan_2009]

I rc pk. :-w

 

 

 

Seriously, it's not hard to avoid. Feel free to interview me if you want. People make too big a deal about it.

[Master_Smither]

Well it is the wildy and they ALL know the risk. I find Rc pking quiet a waste of time for 50k because i can make that 50k easy.

 

 

 

But they know the risks and Rc Pking is just plain stupid......