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yay someone agrees with me... lol

 

 

 

 

 

Andways, D mace is the same special as long, but hits harder. its just a bit slower.

 

Thanks pantim. The dragon mace's attack boosts strength like crazy, uses up 25% of the special bar, and owns the longsword. But a DDS would be better if the player had a low attack level, as the DDS boosts BOTH attack and strength.

 

 

 

The dagger also hits 8 times if 100% of the bar is used. Compare that to the specials of the Dragon longsword, scimitar and mace and the Abyssal Whip. They all PALE in comparison.

 

 

 

Well, usualy DDS is used at lower lvls, as you are guarenteed a few hitrs, but D mace is amazing. You hit a 40+ number or you miss. Overall, DDS probably does have the best special, but it dosn't raise str and atk THAT much.

 

I say use the Dragon Mace ONLY when you are CONFIDENT of getting a good hit. If not, play safe and use the DDS.


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yay someone agrees with me... lol

 

 

 

 

 

Andways, D mace is the same special as long, but hits harder. its just a bit slower.

 

Thanks pantim. The dragon mace's attack boosts strength like crazy, uses up 25% of the special bar, and owns the longsword. But a DDS would be better if the player had a low attack level, as the DDS boosts BOTH attack and strength.

 

 

 

The dagger also hits 8 times if 100% of the bar is used. Compare that to the specials of the Dragon longsword, scimitar and mace and the Abyssal Whip. They all PALE in comparison.

 

 

 

Well, usualy DDS is used at lower lvls, as you are guarenteed a few hitrs, but D mace is amazing. You hit a 40+ number or you miss. Overall, DDS probably does have the best special, but it dosn't raise str and atk THAT much.

 

 

 

D mace - Hit a 40+ or miss, eh? Then explain how after 4 specials, WITH piety, I hit a grand total of 3 :oops:

 

 

 

Back on topic, I combat-wise prefer the Dragon Scimitar simply because of speed, yet my heart lies with the Longsword *RSC Product*

 

Is your attack level high, Saradomin_Mage? If not, you will be cheated of good hits.

 

 

 

Anyway I agree with your second point. :thumbsup:


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well, D hally is the "dds" of high lvls and large monsters


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I've got to say long sword. The spec hits much harder, and you can use it 3 times. Scim: once, and it doesn't do much.

 

 

 

The only time I use a scim is just when I'm being bored/hanging out with friends; thus for looks :).


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well, D hally is the "dds" of high lvls and large monsters

 

The dragon halberd is powerful when using the special, but other than that it is slightly more than a useless piece of metal. No offence BTW.


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I've got to say long sword. The spec hits much harder, and you can use it 3 times. Scim: once, and it doesn't do much.

 

 

 

The only time I use a scim is just when I'm being bored/hanging out with friends; thus for looks :).

 

I thought the D longsword could be used for the special 4 times?

 

Anyway, I still disagree with your second point.


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I've got to say long sword. The spec hits much harder, and you can use it 3 times. Scim: once, and it doesn't do much.

 

 

 

The only time I use a scim is just when I'm being bored/hanging out with friends; thus for looks :).

 

 

 

Thats the point...the ONLY advantage over d skimmy is the 4 SPECIALS After that, its damage and speed pailes in comparison to D skimmy.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, D hally is a useless piece of metal...but then again, so is D long. Only reason to use D hally is specials, only reason to use D long is specials, and even the specil of D long really sucks.


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d skimy looks cooler. you get more regicnition when you have a dragon skimy because it's harder to do mm than it is heroes.

 

dragon long is usually found on 60's- early 80's and new members.

 

 

 

what makes combat go round and round? str str str str str str str atk.

 

 

 

and the little curve just looks so much more sick than an awkward stick pointing up in the air. and the special just looks cooler.

 

 

 

d long looks=6

 

d skim looks= 8.5

 

 

 

mostly looks. i had a longsword while i was able to use the skimy and i just got really comfortable with the looks of it and how you look when you lash upon the enemy. should i go on? O:)


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d skimy looks cooler. you get more regicnition when you have a dragon skimy because it's harder to do mm than it is heroes.

 

dragon long is usually found on 60's- early 80's and new members.

 

 

 

what makes combat go round and round? str str str str str str str atk.

 

 

 

and the little curve just looks so much more sick than an awkward stick pointing up in the air. and the special just looks cooler.

 

 

 

d long looks=6

 

d skim looks= 8.5

 

 

 

mostly looks. i had a longsword while i was able to use the skimy and i just got really comfortable with the looks of it and how you look when you lash upon the enemy. should i go on? O:)

 

With the Dragon scimitar, not only do you get more exp in NORMAL combat than the Dragon Longsword, you also look cool with the slick edge of the red blade. The blade slashing through the air, bringing down a sense of pain and destruction on the target, is nothing less than uber-1337ness.

 

 

 

It also signifies that you are much more proficient in your mastery of the combat skills as you need to complete Monkey Madness before you can wield a D scimitar. A D Longsword only requires the Lost City quest, which (to the best of my understanding as I am F2P) is much easier than the latter quest.

 

 

 

What are you waiting for? Use the Dragon Scimitar over the Dragon Longsword today!


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d skimy looks cooler. you get more regicnition when you have a dragon skimy because it's harder to do mm than it is heroes.

 

dragon long is usually found on 60's- early 80's and new members.

 

 

 

what makes combat go round and round? str str str str str str str atk.

 

 

 

and the little curve just looks so much more sick than an awkward stick pointing up in the air. and the special just looks cooler.

 

 

 

d long looks=6

 

d skim looks= 8.5

 

 

 

mostly looks. i had a longsword while i was able to use the skimy and i just got really comfortable with the looks of it and how you look when you lash upon the enemy. should i go on? O:)

 

With the Dragon scimitar, not only do you get more exp in NORMAL combat than the Dragon Longsword, you also look cool with the slick edge of the red blade. The blade slashing through the air, bringing down a sense of pain and destruction on the target, is nothing less than uber-1337ness.

 

 

 

It also signifies that you are much more proficient in your mastery of the combat skills as you need to complete Monkey Madness before you can wield a D scimitar. A D Longsword only requires the Lost City quest, which (to the best of my understanding as I am F2P) is much easier than the latter quest.

 

 

 

What are you waiting for? Use the Dragon Scimitar over the Dragon Longsword today!

 

 

 

 

 

You know alot being f2p...

 

 

 

Both quests are actually pretty easy. Lost city is shorter, but you can just fletch arrows and bow and safespot, now easier then ever with assist system. Monkey madness is just long, easy if you have cannon/prayer pots, 43+prayer.

 

 

 

But yeah....A curved red thing pwnzs a long bulky red thing.


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d skimy looks cooler. you get more regicnition when you have a dragon skimy because it's harder to do mm than it is heroes.

 

dragon long is usually found on 60's- early 80's and new members.

 

 

 

what makes combat go round and round? str str str str str str str atk.

 

 

 

and the little curve just looks so much more sick than an awkward stick pointing up in the air. and the special just looks cooler.

 

 

 

d long looks=6

 

d skim looks= 8.5

 

 

 

mostly looks. i had a longsword while i was able to use the skimy and i just got really comfortable with the looks of it and how you look when you lash upon the enemy. should i go on? O:)

 

With the Dragon scimitar, not only do you get more exp in NORMAL combat than the Dragon Longsword, you also look cool with the slick edge of the red blade. The blade slashing through the air, bringing down a sense of pain and destruction on the target, is nothing less than uber-1337ness.

 

 

 

It also signifies that you are much more proficient in your mastery of the combat skills as you need to complete Monkey Madness before you can wield a D scimitar. A D Longsword only requires the Lost City quest, which (to the best of my understanding as I am F2P) is much easier than the latter quest.

 

 

 

What are you waiting for? Use the Dragon Scimitar over the Dragon Longsword today!

 

 

 

 

 

You know alot being f2p...

 

 

 

Both quests are actually pretty easy. Lost city is shorter, but you can just fletch arrows and bow and safespot, now easier then ever with assist system. Monkey madness is just long, easy if you have cannon/prayer pots, 43+prayer.

 

 

 

But yeah....A curved red thing pwnzs a long bulky red thing.

 

Nah, I just read a lot in my free time.

 

Anyway, information from members is more reliable than mine.

 

But yeah....A curved red thing DEFINITELY PWNS a long bulky red thing.


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The only big advantage that the long has over the scimitar is it's special. But just use a dds for specs. I still luv longs though deep down, hehe. <3:


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The dragon long is a horrible weapon

 

 

 

The special is perhaps the ONLY reason anyone should use it. But even then, if you have access to a dragon long, you have access to dragon daggers.

 

 

 

In the Scim vs Long argument, aside from personal preference, the scimitar is better overall in everything except the special attack, but again, if you have access to the long, you have access to the dds, which is a MUCH better weapon to special with.

 

 

 

Its faster xp an hour

 

Its more damage over time

 

Its special is next to useless

 

 

 

but it is still statistically better than a long

 

 

 

 

 

All right, let's bring some math into this. I can hear all of you cheering. After all, everybody loves math.

 

 

 

Dragon Longsword speed rating (taken from KB): 5

 

Dragon Scimitar speed rating (taken from KB): 6

 

That basically means that a Dragon Scimitar can hit 6 times in the time it takes for a Dragon Longsword to 5.

 

 

 

Max hit with just Dragon Longsword at 80 strength, agressive, no pots or prayers: 20. With special: 25

 

 

 

Max hit with just Dragon Scimitar at 80 strength, agressive, no pots or prayers: 19.

 

 

 

All right, then. 5 times 20 equals 100. Let's say that one of those five hits was a special. So that's 105.

 

 

 

6 times 19 equals 114.

 

 

 

Now, for the final question....

 

 

 

Which is bigger: 105 or 114?

 

 

 

Of course, I'm not factoring in accuracy here. But even if I were, the Dragon Longsword would not surpass the Dragon Scimitar.

 

 

 

think that answer the question :-w


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Well, since the

 

 

 

"Uber d long pl0x ownzorzs skim" has died down, and the "d long specials" are better had been used up...I think D skimmy has won.


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I would use the scimitar for fast exp.

 

But if you would compare them, I think they allmost are the same.

 

The Dragon scimitar has the speed, the Long has the better bonusses and the spec.

 

 

 

Let's that the scimitar rules because it looks cool!

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what it boils down to is that the bonuses on the longsword mean nearly nothing when compared to the slight increase in speed...

 

we need a new combat system

 

 

 

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gratzs...

 

 

 

But yeah...looks like D skimmy wins.

 

 

 

TBH, a few str bonus dosn't increase your max hit unless its on the verge of going up one


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it's a few strength and attack bonuses, specifically the stab attack.

 

but then, i've had a person tell me that a warrior's ring is a waste while the berserker ring isn't. almost the whole community seems to think that a few points in an attack bonus mean nothing as a replacement for speed, and rightly so, based on my observations

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zerker ring isint very useful, but if you only need 2 or 3 str bonus, then the ring can help.

 

 

 

But then again, a extra hit can easily make up for a u dmg more hit


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it seems alot of people here seem to think that str > speed on how good a weapon is

 

 

 

WRONG

 

 

 

 

 

in the time a d long hits 4 times, a scimmy hits 5.

 

 

 

the extra 1 max hit means in theory that one scimmy hit must hit a 4 or lower, but on most monster people train on, and at a decent combat lvl themselves, it will rarely miss. also, a d long is almost just as likely to miss as its attack bonuses are SLIGHTLY higher, nothing insane like the godswords bonus compared to a whip

 

 

 

also, when training, alot of people dont use dds.

 

 

 

or d mace

 

 

 

they use a dba spec for str then an att/super attack for makign up the attack, so please, leave the specs out of this. it is not the spec that makes the weapon, its the damage/second AVERAGE

 

 

 

and scimmy wins on that.

 

 

 

ill test it and post the results later


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in the time a d long hits 4 times, a scimmy hits 5.

 

Err...walka92? The longsword hits 5 times in the time a scimitar can manage 6.

 

Anyway, I agree with the rest. Although I'm not so sure if members prefer to use dba special over the dds. Most of the member training guides usually recommend the dds, but I cannot really say for sure as I am F2P.


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It really depends weather you want even speed and max hit (scimitar)

 

 

 

or slower and higher max hit (Long Sword)

 

 

 

I personally like the dragon scimitar because it is fast and it is really good for training strength

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