darkmage099 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 In history classes (of Germany and Japan), do they teach (extensively) on WWII and WWI? I've heard rumors that they just gloss over the nasty parts, dont teach about the Holocaust, and generally "skip" it. I don't believe this, but is there any truth in that? I'm just wondering. Dont be offended. Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrOwez Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Depends in what country? I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries. Btw, people in my school go to Auschwitz to see the prison camps for their history trip, so it's kinda gross. A friend to all is a friend to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaziek Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn46F8lyFBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unoalexi Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Depends in what country? I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries. 1+ Here in Amercia, they teach you the basics-This guy named Hitler killed 6 million Jews in prison camps during WW2, and he tried to take over Europe but failed eventually, ect. Then the Japanese, during this on-going conflict, allied themselves with Hitler and bombed Pearl Harbor(ect.) Here be dragons ^ Dragon of the Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamecaller Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 The Japanese play WWII video games. The Germans just drink beer and burn copies of Mein Kampf for warmth. "If I did break into a hotel room to steal my trophies, this is how it happened." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 The Germans remember the wars, and teach about them extensively as to avoid repetition of them in the future. That Family guys just a joke for anyone wondering, it's the farthest away from the truth you can possibly get :P . The Japanese... eh, they still like their denial and elitism. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Depends in what country? I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries. 1+ Here in Amercia, they teach you the basics-This guy named Hitler killed 6 million Jews in prison camps during WW2, and he tried to take over Europe but failed eventually, ect. Then the Japanese, during this on-going conflict, allied themselves with Hitler and bombed Pearl Harbor(ect.) Eh. . . @Germans and Japanese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superson Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 The title might not be understand to actually be "A question to be answered by German and Japanese". People might just think you put it to look cool (since it does :P ). Just to clarify that he is asking German and Japanese people. In Soviet Russia, glass eats OTers. Alansson Alansson, woo woo woo! Pink owns yes, just like you!GOOOOOOOOOO ALAN! WOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unoalexi Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Depends in what country? I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries. 1+ Here in Amercia, they teach you the basics-This guy named Hitler killed 6 million Jews in prison camps during WW2, and he tried to take over Europe but failed eventually, ect. Then the Japanese, during this on-going conflict, allied themselves with Hitler and bombed Pearl Harbor(ect.) Eh. . . @Germans and Japanese He was talking about how the teachers of history classes gloss-over WW2.. to my knowledge.. oh, lol sory.. I didn't know he was asking the germans and japanese.. sorry :oops: Here be dragons ^ Dragon of the Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkblade986 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Last year, in my Problems of Democracy class, we went over the Holocaust heavily. We read some book from a Holocaust survivor (can't remember the title, it was by an Elie Viseal person, and the last name I know is spelled wrong, but it's German). After we read the book, the author then came into our school, as she had done with many other school, and described the experience for us. I live in North-Eastern America, and we definitely don't just skip to the gory bits and the basics; we were given descriptions of what they had to go through. We skimmed over Pearl Harbor on the anniversary of the attack, but that was about it. We should be getting into the Japanese issues later this year. EDIT: The name was Elie Wiesel, and the book was called "Night." don't worry, you are going to "hell" anyway. wanna race to see who gets there first?Officially reached 100 Combat at 1:33PM EST, June 14, 2007First Dragon Drop: Dragon Chain (Dust Devils) @ 10:48PM EST, July 14, 2008, lv113 combat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 This reminds me of a conversation earlier last week. Some dude from liverpool (aptly named "Scouseman") was talking to this German guy, and out of the blue he told him that his grandparents were killed by Nazis after they burn't them alive in a barn. That was possibly the most akward few minutes of my life. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superson Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Last year, in my Problems of Democracy class, we went over the Holocaust heavily. We read some book from a Holocaust survivor (can't remember the title, it was by an Elie Viseal person, and the last name I know is spelled wrong, but it's German). After we read the book, the author then came into our school, as she had done with many other school, and described the experience for us. I live in North-Eastern America, and we definitely don't just skip to the gory bits and the basics; we were given descriptions of what they had to go through. We skimmed over Pearl Harbor on the anniversary of the attack, but that was about it. We should be getting into the Japanese issues later this year. EDIT: The name was Elie Wiesel, and the book was called "Night." Elie Wiesel I think? (How wierd, I know his name from a quote I'm using in a debate case about the death penalty... odd). EDIT: Woops didn't see that you'd edited. In Soviet Russia, glass eats OTers. Alansson Alansson, woo woo woo! Pink owns yes, just like you!GOOOOOOOOOO ALAN! WOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 To clarify things (sorry), I will rephrase my question. I am specifically asking German and Japanese people. I know how it is here in America. Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldJoe Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I know many German people, and the history they are taught is basically only about WW2. I mean, of course they are taught about all history, but the main part is about WW2. If you want a better answer i can ask one of them about this if you want to. J'adore aussi le sexe et les snuff moviesJe trouve que ce sont des purs moments de vieJe ne me reconnais plus dans les gensJe suis juste un cas désespérantEt comme personne ne viendra me réclamerJe terminerai comme un objet retrouvé Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meol Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Would it be ok coming from an American (as in someone living in America, not the U.S.) attending a German School? This signature is intentionally left blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin64 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Last year, in my Problems of Democracy class That's my kind of class. Anyways, I know that at least the Germans heavily regret what happened during the War, so they wpuld probably educate as much as possible to ensure it is known and nobody every tries it again. Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kido14 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Depends in what country? I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries. 1+ Here in Amercia, they teach you the basics-This guy named Hitler killed 6 million Jews in prison camps during WW2, and he tried to take over Europe but failed eventually, ect. Then the Japanese, during this on-going conflict, allied themselves with Hitler and bombed Pearl Harbor(ect.) I don't think he asked about America? Did he edit it or something? Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/Aaronm14/MY FAVORITE BAND:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=64310717And the bible is the big book of lies, call me a racist if you must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unoalexi Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Depends in what country? I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries. 1+ Here in Amercia, they teach you the basics-This guy named Hitler killed 6 million Jews in prison camps during WW2, and he tried to take over Europe but failed eventually, ect. Then the Japanese, during this on-going conflict, allied themselves with Hitler and bombed Pearl Harbor(ect.) I don't think he asked about America? Did he edit it or something? I misread the post.. -.- Here be dragons ^ Dragon of the Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelem_ryu Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Uh.. what makes you think they learn any less about it then americans? I'm Austrian, not German, wich is about as close, considering that Hitler was an Austrian ( :-$ ) and i can hardly believe anywhere else in the world WWII and NAZI attrocities are as huge a topic. Basically both our countries are still traumatized by the events. National pride is basically non existant and i guess this has much to do with our history. Unlike the americans who can pride themselves in being a major force in getting rid of the NAZI regime, we have to live with being the ones that cheered to Hitler when he took over the country. Our grandparents killed millions of people in concentration camps. It's hard for countries to get over such a history. There are many, many german books, plays and movies about these subjects. I can't tell about others, but i learned extensively about it in school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malo2 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I know germany takes extra effort to teach students their past mistakes, but japan is the other way around. Lastfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medellin Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Probably not. The same way the US doesnt' teach their war mongering to students truthfully either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malo2 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Probably not. The same way the US doesnt' teach their war mongering to students truthfully eitherhave you ever been in a us school to say that? Lastfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrager Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Well my whole family is Japanese, so this is an intresting topic. Generally American teaching of the Japanese is that they were an island in which battling factions eventually become a united country after years of fighting. And in the Russo-Japanese war, they presented themselves as a militaric nation. Later in the 1930s with their excellent navy, they started their Pacific Island expantion, and after WWI in which they sided with the allies, the allies they decided to stop their expantion(after Pearl Harbor). Hideki Tojo is depicted as an over ambtious General who decided to fight against the strongest allied force in history. Later after the atomic bomb was dropped, Japan reemerged as a redevolped nation, now being the second richest nation in the world. The depiction of Japanese history is very peculiar in the U.S. I am not sure about the teachings of other instutitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I asked my German Teacher who has spent extensive time over in Germany (in which she was on an exchange program in a school for a year when she was younger) and clarified that they do teach the students over there the past mistakes of the Germans of the past to try and stop it ever occurring again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megakiller32 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I personally think Germany really started to buckle down after the Munich Olympics- they realised they had dealt with the second world war in some ways slightly inaffectively. But im English so i cant answer your actual question. Sometimes i feel sorry for germany, people think of them badly just because of one leader. Quit Runescape 30th May 2006.Thanks to Hawkxs for my signature :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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