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In history classes (of Germany and Japan), do they teach (extensively) on WWII and WWI? I've heard rumors that they just gloss over the nasty parts, dont teach about the Holocaust, and generally "skip" it.

 

 

 

I don't believe this, but is there any truth in that?

 

 

 

I'm just wondering. Dont be offended.

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Depends in what country?

 

I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries.

 

 

 

Btw, people in my school go to Auschwitz to see the prison camps for their history trip, so it's kinda gross.

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Depends in what country?

 

I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries.

 

 

 

 

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Here in Amercia, they teach you the basics-This guy named Hitler killed 6 million Jews in prison camps during WW2, and he tried to take over Europe but failed eventually, ect. Then the Japanese, during this on-going conflict, allied themselves with Hitler and bombed Pearl Harbor(ect.)

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The Germans remember the wars, and teach about them extensively as to avoid repetition of them in the future. That Family guys just a joke for anyone wondering, it's the farthest away from the truth you can possibly get :P .

 

 

 

The Japanese... eh, they still like their denial and elitism.

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Depends in what country?

 

I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries.

 

 

 

 

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Here in Amercia, they teach you the basics-This guy named Hitler killed 6 million Jews in prison camps during WW2, and he tried to take over Europe but failed eventually, ect. Then the Japanese, during this on-going conflict, allied themselves with Hitler and bombed Pearl Harbor(ect.)

 

 

 

Eh. . .

 

 

 

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The title might not be understand to actually be "A question to be answered by German and Japanese". People might just think you put it to look cool (since it does :P ).

 

 

 

Just to clarify that he is asking German and Japanese people.

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Depends in what country?

 

I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries.

 

 

 

 

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Here in Amercia, they teach you the basics-This guy named Hitler killed 6 million Jews in prison camps during WW2, and he tried to take over Europe but failed eventually, ect. Then the Japanese, during this on-going conflict, allied themselves with Hitler and bombed Pearl Harbor(ect.)

 

 

 

Eh. . .

 

 

 

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He was talking about how the teachers of history classes gloss-over WW2.. to my knowledge..

 

 

 

oh, lol sory.. I didn't know he was asking the germans and japanese.. sorry :oops:

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Last year, in my Problems of Democracy class, we went over the Holocaust heavily. We read some book from a Holocaust survivor (can't remember the title, it was by an Elie Viseal person, and the last name I know is spelled wrong, but it's German). After we read the book, the author then came into our school, as she had done with many other school, and described the experience for us.

 

 

 

 

 

I live in North-Eastern America, and we definitely don't just skip to the gory bits and the basics; we were given descriptions of what they had to go through. We skimmed over Pearl Harbor on the anniversary of the attack, but that was about it. We should be getting into the Japanese issues later this year.

 

 

 

EDIT: The name was Elie Wiesel, and the book was called "Night."

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This reminds me of a conversation earlier last week. Some dude from liverpool (aptly named "Scouseman") was talking to this German guy, and out of the blue he told him that his grandparents were killed by Nazis after they burn't them alive in a barn. That was possibly the most akward few minutes of my life.

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Last year, in my Problems of Democracy class, we went over the Holocaust heavily. We read some book from a Holocaust survivor (can't remember the title, it was by an Elie Viseal person, and the last name I know is spelled wrong, but it's German). After we read the book, the author then came into our school, as she had done with many other school, and described the experience for us.

 

 

 

 

 

I live in North-Eastern America, and we definitely don't just skip to the gory bits and the basics; we were given descriptions of what they had to go through. We skimmed over Pearl Harbor on the anniversary of the attack, but that was about it. We should be getting into the Japanese issues later this year.

 

 

 

EDIT: The name was Elie Wiesel, and the book was called "Night."

 

 

 

Elie Wiesel I think? (How wierd, I know his name from a quote I'm using in a debate case about the death penalty... odd).

 

 

 

EDIT: Woops didn't see that you'd edited.

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I know many German people, and the history they are taught is basically only about WW2.

 

I mean, of course they are taught about all history, but the main part is about WW2.

 

 

 

If you want a better answer i can ask one of them about this if you want to.

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Last year, in my Problems of Democracy class

 

That's my kind of class.

 

Anyways, I know that at least the Germans heavily regret what happened during the War, so they wpuld probably educate as much as possible to ensure it is known and nobody every tries it again.

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Depends in what country?

 

I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries.

 

 

 

 

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Here in Amercia, they teach you the basics-This guy named Hitler killed 6 million Jews in prison camps during WW2, and he tried to take over Europe but failed eventually, ect. Then the Japanese, during this on-going conflict, allied themselves with Hitler and bombed Pearl Harbor(ect.)

 

I don't think he asked about America? Did he edit it or something?

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Depends in what country?

 

I mean there's different exam boards and specifications e.t.c in different countries.

 

 

 

 

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Here in Amercia, they teach you the basics-This guy named Hitler killed 6 million Jews in prison camps during WW2, and he tried to take over Europe but failed eventually, ect. Then the Japanese, during this on-going conflict, allied themselves with Hitler and bombed Pearl Harbor(ect.)

 

I don't think he asked about America? Did he edit it or something?

 

 

 

I misread the post.. -.-

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Uh.. what makes you think they learn any less about it then americans? I'm Austrian, not German, wich is about as close, considering that Hitler was an Austrian ( :-$ ) and i can hardly believe anywhere else in the world WWII and NAZI attrocities are as huge a topic.

 

 

 

Basically both our countries are still traumatized by the events. National pride is basically non existant and i guess this has much to do with our history. Unlike the americans who can pride themselves in being a major force in getting rid of the NAZI regime, we have to live with being the ones that cheered to Hitler when he took over the country. Our grandparents killed millions of people in concentration camps. It's hard for countries to get over such a history.

 

 

 

There are many, many german books, plays and movies about these subjects. I can't tell about others, but i learned extensively about it in school.

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Well my whole family is Japanese, so this is an intresting topic.

 

Generally American teaching of the Japanese is that they were an island in which battling factions eventually become a united country after years of fighting. And in the Russo-Japanese war, they presented themselves as a militaric nation. Later in the 1930s with their excellent navy, they started their Pacific Island expantion, and after WWI in which they sided with the allies, the allies they decided to stop their expantion(after Pearl Harbor). Hideki Tojo is depicted as an over ambtious General who decided to fight against the strongest allied force in history. Later after the atomic bomb was dropped, Japan reemerged as a redevolped nation, now being the second richest nation in the world.

 

The depiction of Japanese history is very peculiar in the U.S. I am not sure about the teachings of other instutitions.

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I asked my German Teacher who has spent extensive time over in Germany (in which she was on an exchange program in a school for a year when she was younger) and clarified that they do teach the students over there the past mistakes of the Germans of the past to try and stop it ever occurring again.

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I personally think Germany really started to buckle down after the Munich Olympics- they realised they had dealt with the second world war in some ways slightly inaffectively.

 

But im English so i cant answer your actual question.

 

Sometimes i feel sorry for germany, people think of them badly just because of one leader.

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