Maybe elitist wasn't the best word, perhaps I should have used arrogant, ignorant, hypocrites, or maybe just idiotic.

 

 

 

Anyways you've certainly heard a lot of these people who are extremely condescending towards multiple groups of people such as stakers, merchants and pkers. For some reason they seem to think clicking hours on end to increase there skills (which ironically requires no skill at all) is more respectable than staking/pking/merchanting.

 

 

 

Anyways, my question to you guys: Why? Somebody please enlighten me about the logic these fools use to come up with some of their ideas. What do you guys have against merchants? Stakers? Pkers? I have yet heard a valid argument as to why these people are worse than skillers.

 

 

 

Personally I think skilling is the dumbest out of all of them, as all you do is click the same pattern over and over again for each skill (for most skills). I have no problem with people who do skill though, I used to do it a lot when I did play, but then I realized even when I achieved my goals, sure it felt kind of good to have accomplished something, but it was at no point FUN. Staking and pking are both fun, and personally I enjoy merchanting too. Also with those 3 your average Joe can't achieve a large amount of success without being somewhat skilled (yes luck has a HUGE part to do with it but still.

 

 

 

Btw, is it just me or did Jagex manage to ruin 2 of the 3 most enjoyable parts of the game for a lot of people in 2 weeks? Are they going to remove pking since you can transfer money by having it in your inventory then having the person you are transferring it to pick it up? Wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

 

 

EDIT: I guess I didn't make this clear enough. I'm not saying all skillers think this, I am talking about the ones who DO hate those 3 groups of people, so don't get offended if you are a skiller. I have no problems with skillers, just the ones who look down on others like pkers/stakers/merchants

just like you like dueling/pking, others enjoy skilling.

 

 

 

I personally like skilling because it gives u a change to sit back and relax.

 

i dont see a problem in skillers but i think its quite pointless. Dont quit your main and make a lvl 3 with 1 in everything, work on your main and get him better.

Hmmm... I'm a skiller and a pretty good one too! I don't have anything against merchanters, stakers or pkers.

 

 

 

Sometimes merchanters just happen to get on my nervers.

 

 

 

I myself just got 99 prayer by staking before they changed it and I don't have anything against stakers, maybe just jealyous of the rich ones.

 

 

 

I myself don't pk and can't find a reason to disrispect pkers. :|

 

Anyways you've certainly heard a lot of these people who are extremely condescending towards multiple groups of people such as stakers, merchants and pkers. For some reason they seem to think clicking hours on end to increase there skills (which ironically requires no skill at all) is more respectable than staking/pking/merchanting.

 

 

 

 

If you haven't noticed all this game consists of is clicking, and training a pure/staker does not require any skill either.

I have nothing against merchanters, make it easier to buy items in bulk for me. Pking and staking never really got my attention. I pked 2-3 times and well... It just isn't fun for me. Staking, sometimes for fun. But I dislike combat and try to stay 99 combat, so almost every combat related mini-game/pking isn't really good for me. People have different tastes, different interests and different attitudes. You stereotyped ALL skillers to hate pker/duelers/merchanters, and that isn't good.

Many of the best stakers, merchants and pkers are more respected than the best skillers. For example, Cursed_You, Duke_Freedom and Hiei_the_pk are probably all more well known than a skiller such as Zzzamorak.

 

 

 

Some people do not like these people though because a minority resort to methods which are against the rules in order to break a profit while in skilling that kind of thing doesn't happen.

The fact that you would go to all this to prove how ironically arrogant you are yourself sums it all up quite nicely.

 

 

 

I personally have nothing against a group of people, no matter the circumstance, if you're not like that, its called prejudice in the nicest settings. I judge individuals by their actions.

 

 

 

I wonder what that makes you?

 

Anyways you've certainly heard a lot of these people who are extremely condescending towards multiple groups of people such as stakers, merchants and pkers. For some reason they seem to think clicking hours on end to increase there skills (which ironically requires no skill at all) is more respectable than staking/pking/merchanting.

 

 

 

 

If you haven't noticed all this game consists of is clicking, and training a pure/staker does not require any skill either.

 

I never said the act of training one of them did, I was talking about the actual act of it.

 

 

 

You stereotyped ALL skillers to hate pker/duelers/merchanters, and that isn't good.

 

I thought I made it clear that I meant the "elitist skillers," those skillers who DO hate pkers/duelers/merchants. Sorry for the confusion

 

 

 

I guess I didn't make myself clear enough, but I'm not stereotyping skillers, I'm asking the ones who act so condescending towards the others

You stereotyped ALL skillers to hate pker/duelers/merchanters, and that isn't good.

 

I thought I made it clear that I meant the "elitist skillers," those skillers who DO hate pkers/duelers/merchants. Sorry for the confusion

 

 

 

I guess I didn't make myself clear enough, but I'm not stereotyping skillers, I'm asking the ones who act so condescending towards the others

 

 

 

Ok, well.... Then the elitest skillers are just jerks :mrgreen:

I see myself as a skiller, and I don't have anything against pking, merchanting or staking. The only thing that does any me is when some pkers just say "i own u noob".

 

 

 

I'm not saying all pkers say that because they don't, and as someone said earlier, there are many pkers, stakers and merchanters who are well respected, but there are also a lot of them who aren't.

Stereotype much?

You stereotyped ALL skillers to hate pker/duelers/merchanters, and that isn't good.

 

I thought I made it clear that I meant the "elitist skillers," those skillers who DO hate pkers/duelers/merchants. Sorry for the confusion

 

 

 

I guess I didn't make myself clear enough, but I'm not stereotyping skillers, I'm asking the ones who act so condescending towards the others

 

 

 

Ok, well.... Then the elitest skillers are just jerks :mrgreen:

 

Yea =p, but the main purpose of this topic was to find out why those guys have the opinions they do. It makes no sense to me, and I want to find out why they think the way they do.

Woodcutting is nice, easy money while i do my homework. :-s

Lol, you title has almost my whole clan name in it. :lol:

 

 

 

But I agree. Staking and Merchanting didn't hurt anyone, so let it be. I just hate it when people say Merchanting takes a lot of skill. All it needs is determination and half a brain.

 

 

 

Merchanting will not die because of the communistic way Jagex has built the GE. GF GE.

Lol, you title has almost my whole clan name in it. :lol:

 

 

 

But I agree. Staking and Merchanting didn't hurt anyone, so let it be. I just hate it when people say Merchanting takes a lot of skill. All it needs is determination and half a brain.

 

 

 

Merchanting will not die because of the communistic way Jagex has built the GE. GF GE.

 

Elitist is much different than elite ;). I would argue merchanting does take a certain amount of skill, mainly when it comes to the haggling aspect.

 

 

 

Ed: Completely missed the point of the topic

Consider this: many merchanters, pk'ers, and stakers profit directly at the expense of others, wheras skillers and monster hunters do not, for the most part. Granted, the folks that loose money to merchanters, pk'ers, and stakers are (normally) aware of the risks and rewards of dealing with them, but that doesn't improve the attitude. This may explain some of the resentment skillers feel.

Personally I enjoy skilling because I believe skillers help the cogs of the game keep turning. Many skills are production skills and provide RuneScape warriors with the raw materials they need. To be able to produce the life blood of the game makes me proud. When I commence in a clickfest to gather 1k of iron or coal, I know it will head to a smith, who will then turn it into a bar, and then will either sell it or turn it into armor/weaponry for a proud warrior to wield. However warriors, duelers, and stakers are vital too because without them skillers would not have the funds to keep skilling. Miners need their money for pickaxes, smithers need it for ores, runecrafters need it for their essence, crafters need it for their gems, etc. So we exist in a symbiotic relationship with one another. Neither is more important than the other. As far as which is more enjoyable...its a matter of taste of course :wink:.

Consider this: many merchanters, pk'ers, and stakers profit directly at the expense of others, wheras skillers and monster hunters do not, for the most part. Granted, the folks that loose money to merchanters, pk'ers, and stakers are (normally) aware of the risks and rewards of dealing with them, but that doesn't improve the attitude. This may explain some of the resentment skillers feel.

 

Thank you, this is the kind of response I was looking for. I guess I can understand that, but these people pkers and stakers profit from are doing the same thing. People don't lose money to merchants, they simply have potential to make more money than they end up making from the merchants... Actually, they really don't because the people who need certain things for skills normally don't buy in low quantities like that, so really merchants are usually paying a fair price for low quantity items.

 

 

 

Lady: Nice post, except I think you missed the main point of my topic =p. Thanks for your nicely written post though

GENERALLY, I find that the most obnoxious people classify themselves as stakers.

 

 

 

GENERALLY, I find that skillers are really nice. Since combat level and expense of items worn are the main judges of a person upon first look, skillers usually are less judgemental. Since the level 3 is the same among them, they find a bond just from that and are less likely to be rude. Especially since a skiller is typically not a person's main account, others will be less likely to be mean beacuse the skiller could be Zezima (lol, Zezima) for all they know.

 

There aren't many expensive items for a skiller to wear (Rares is about it), that also isn't a factor.

 

 

 

Skillers don't have to be mean or agressive to be successful, a PKer/staker does.

 

The whole point behind MOST stakers is to be deceitful - they hide immense strength under a low level (pures).

 

Also, the whole point is to kill another person (note, that's different than killing monsters), and to be as brutal as possible.

 

 

 

I made my "skiller" so that I could get level 85 mining and not be threatened in the wild when mining runite (since there are not many level 50s that deep).

 

 

 

To train a skiller, you click, click, click.

 

To train a Pker/staker, you click, click, click.

 

 

 

To use the skills you train, it takes strategy and "skill" (avoiding PKers, previously learning tricks like attacking monsters to avoid PKers, learning spawn rates and figuring out worlds to switch to and get the timing perfect to be able to bank and mine without messing up this timer. Note, things like runecraft is the same)

 

To use PKer/staker skills it also takes strategy, like one would assume.

 

 

 

Oh, and MOST skillers are also merchants, so, uh...

Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

What's sadder then the update is the response from skillers. Comn guys, look at your responses, this is [bleep]ing pathetic. Lulz all purs and stakrs by rs geepee and dey all shuv der welf in mi fas luk hoos laffing now.

 

 

 

[bleep]ing pathetic. Get over yourselves. I have a higher total then most people under 90 and am 70 combat and ! A PURE. That's right, I skill, I stake, I PK, I'm low defense. I think this update will help our economy and I want the little money I have left from LOSING MOST STAKING to mean something again.

 

 

 

Honestly grow up this is pretty sad, look at yourselves and your responses, how does this make you any better then the low amount of stakers shoving their wealth in your face?

 

 

 

Roses Kitsym

 

1310 Total

 

61 Attack, 88 Str, 4 Def

Its funny how when the talk about the staking change and the GE came up, majority of these forums were saying "lol good", "best update ever", "i hate stakers, good riddance". Yet the posts here do not reflect that?

 

 

 

I'm glad the aurthor had the balls to post something like this, because this is what I have felt for quite a while.

 

 

 

Along with that, these forums have degraded into a group of closed net of people who sit around and look down upon nearly all aspects of pking, staking, and merchanting. Just take a look at the graveyard forum, there is nearly nothing going on there except for the occasional rcer specing out a rc-pker and getting a good drop (aside from a few choice galleries, including my own).

 

 

 

People always say pures are so arrogant, and stakers are so cocky, yet EVERY SINGLE ARGUMENT in game I HAVE seen between a skiller and a pker, the skiller in someway said he was better than someone else based on how they choose to play a game.

 

 

 

I'll wait for peoples reactions to go deeper into this rant :roll:

Its funny how when the talk about the staking change and the GE came up, majority of these forums were saying "lol good", "best update ever", "i hate stakers, good riddance". Yet the posts here do not reflect that?

 

 

 

I'm glad the aurthor had the balls to post something like this, because this is what I have felt for quite a while.

 

 

 

Along with that, these forums have degraded into a group of closed net of people who sit around and look down upon nearly all aspects of pking, staking, and merchanting. Just take a look at the graveyard forum, there is nearly nothing going on there except for the occasional rcer specing out a rc-pker and getting a good drop (aside from a few choice galleries, including my own).

 

 

 

People always say pures are so arrogant, and stakers are so cocky, yet EVERY SINGLE ARGUMENT in game I HAVE seen between a skiller and a pker, the skiller in someway said he was better than someone else based on how they choose to play a game.

 

 

 

I'll wait for peoples reactions to go deeper into this rant :roll:

 

 

 

I thought I was the only one who noticed this haha

 

 

 

=D>

this is more a rant.

this is more a rant.

 

It's more of a question. We the PKers, and Stakers are waiting for more counter-arguments from the people who post that the updates which screw over us are good.

Elitist skillers, elitist pkers, elitist merchants, elitist stakers (not really anymore)... it's not at all what you do, but the kind of person you are. No matter what your doing there is always the kind of person that thinks that their way is the best, and should be the only way, of doing things. You have skillers who think pkers are scum, and vice versa. The reason skillers have looked so bad lately is because of Jagex's dule arena update, which didn't hurt them at all.

 

 

 

You are right though, many skillers look down on others as a whole (I.E. all pkers are immature 11 year olds who want free stuff) when it is no where close to the truth. Truth is, I've met plenty of nasty pkers, stakers, merchants, and skillers, but there is no one group collectively more responsible for this than others.

 

 

 

To sum it up: It's not what people are doing that makes them this way, it's the type of person they are.

 

 

 

Skull