A Smithing Speculation

[Erichermit]

Do you think that maybe the Grand Exchange has increased the feasable for selling some low level items, before unsellable?

 

 

 

For example, say someone is smithing. Now, normally they would train this by making tons of plate bodies and alching them.

 

 

 

Do you think that maybe the f2p demand is high enough that one can actually create full sets of armor and sell them now? For a low level smith, if low levels are willing to pay for sets of full iron then smithing because a much more profitable skill than before.

 

 

 

And of course, for the higher level smiths, maybe Mithril and Adamant will sell for more a profit now?

 

 

 

Granted the demand may be small compared to other items, but do you think that armor is actually sellable? I know that I normally would never waste time in a f2p world trying to sell full mithril, but perhaps with the introduction of Grand Exchange, the f2pers will provide a market.

[Rcty]

Before the Grand Exchange, all of the effort was your responsibility - find a price, find a buyer, sit there and wait for a buyer, etc. However, with the introduction of the Grand Exchange, you can put up an item and (in virtually seconds from a whole different server) sell the item anonymously.

 

 

 

Yes, I do believe that a lot more items, not just smithing, will begin to develop their own market because suddenly people are having time to sell them (or at least get the Grand Exchange to).

 

 

 

~Rcty

[Y2g2003]

12 sets of Mith armor will get you a little over 100k right now.

 

 

 

Basically you can profit greatly by mining your own materials, smithing the bars, and turning the bars into sets. When it comes to buying the bars yourself... you start losing quite a bit of money. Which is the mathmatical error in which I alluded to earlier (in another thread). I bought 156 mith bars via the GE and basically miscalculated the amount per bar it would take to make a set. That little mistake cost me about 91k, but lesson learned, I guess.

 

 

 

I didn't venture off into purchasing the ores and mining the coal myself... or visa versa, but maybe that's something I'd be willing to look into later.

 

 

 

But yeah... right now... if you do everything yourself... you can bring in a good bit of profit, I would think. That's what I experienced with Mith, at least.

[anonymouse_]

It will be profitable for a while, until everyone else starts selling their junk at GE =D>

[Erichermit]

Yeah well, that's true. If everyone else starts selling armor pieces here then it'll backup with way more supply than anyone needs.

 

 

 

What other items, besides armor pieces will become easy to sell for profit now?

[Y2g2003]

Yeah well, that's true. If everyone else starts selling armor pieces here then it'll backup with way more supply than anyone needs.

 

 

 

What other items, besides armor pieces will become easy to sell for profit now?

 

 

 

Armor parts are a little different then armor sets. Personally, I would think that armor sets will be more sought after. People who die might end up having to buy a new helmet or shield as far as armor goes, but that's about it. While players moving up in levels will be looking for sets.

[Erichermit]

Ah yes, sorry, I meant armor sets.

 

 

 

This talk of armor also brings to mind another idea. Perhaps buying armor in separate pieces (make an order for 100 platebodies, 100 platelegs, 100 full helms, and 100 kites) and then sell 100 full sets. Do you think a profit or a loss would be derived from such a thing?

 

 

 

I think low level f2p smithers might make good money off of this Armor Selling especially, but Bronze and Iron will remain unprofitable at almost any level because I'm guess that most people still using such armor wont have the reigns of the game well enough to want to buy that.

 

Steel seems to be not a bad choice. Mithril and up is where I think one could actually make sizable money if this works.

[Shadowcheval]

Ah, and all that talk of merchanting being destroyed

 

 

 

It'll probably yield a profit, especially if you're going for mith or addy.

[Erichermit]

Surprisingly enough, all my previous merchanting ventures have ended in a loss of profit. I think it's kind of interesting that I actually came up with what seems like a good idea =P

 

 

 

Unfortunately, smithing isn't exactly something I enjoy so I doubt I'll actually sell anything, but I'd like it if this helps someone out there make some money they need!

[Y2g2003]

 

This talk of armor also brings to mind another idea. Perhaps buying armor in separate pieces (make an order for 100 platebodies, 100 platelegs, 100 full helms, and 100 kites) and then sell 100 full sets. Do you think a profit or a loss would be derived from such a thing?

 

 

 

 

As the market stands right now here are the figures as far as mith goes:

 

All prices are done on the high end (max price):

 

 

 

Set (L & S both): 10,747

 

 

 

Full Helm: 1,221

 

Kite: 2,203

 

Plate: 4,669

 

Legs/Skirt: 2,594

 

Total: 10,687

 

 

 

Profit per set: 60

 

 

 

So no, it isn't really worth it. At least at this point. And honestly, I don't even think it'll be that profitable once prices are stable.

 

 

 

I did look into raw materials earlier. And buying Mith ore and mining the coal yourself would actually be profitable. Thing about that is... where coal is the most accessible is where mith ore is available as well on F2P worlds (Mining guild). So to buy Mith ore at cost to only go to the exact place where the mith ore is to mine coal seems almost foolish. Especially when you'd be making a ton of profit if you just took the extra time to mine the ore along with the coal.

[meili]

Hmmm I believe th armor sets below addy are buyable in shop anyway. Only addy and above needs to be player smithed (some items only while some are in shops) so I think alching will still be more popular than selling through GE.

[FooK-A-Ji]

Hmmm I believe th armor sets below addy are buyable in shop anyway. Only addy and above needs to be player smithed (some items only while some are in shops) so I think alching will still be more popular than selling through GE.

 

 

 

Plus alching gives mad good magic exp.

[Latinoking]

All armour even rune is available to be able to buy from shops...

 

 

 

I know Not

• 1.Dragon 2.Barrow 3. 3rd Age, Etc.

[SwreeTak]

It will be profitable for a while, until everyone else starts selling their junk at GE =D>

 

 

 

Yes, I have to agree with you. It will probalby not be that profitable for long. But if you're quick you might be able to do some cash from it :)

[Wouter828]

hmm maybe. don't know if most f2p newbies are able of using the ge however it won't make it profiteable is my guess..

[n_odie]

I think it will be profitable. F2p is going to make a big difference on the p2p market and visa versa.

[FooK-A-Ji]

All armour even rune is available to be able to buy from shops...

 

 

 

I know Not

• 1.Dragon 2.Barrow 3. 3rd Age, Etc.

 

 

 

Where do u buy adam and rune kites?

[Arthu]

All armour even rune is available to be able to buy from shops...

 

 

 

I know Not

• 1.Dragon 2.Barrow 3. 3rd Age, Etc.

 

 

 

Where do u buy adam and rune kites?

 

 

 

From the bakery, of course.

[FooK-A-Ji]

All armour even rune is available to be able to buy from shops...

 

 

 

I know Not

• 1.Dragon 2.Barrow 3. 3rd Age, Etc.

 

 

 

Where do u buy adam and rune kites?

 

 

 

From the bakery, of course.

 

 

 

BUYNIG CHEFF HATS!!!

[fusion77]

All armour even rune is available to be able to buy from shops...

 

 

 

I know Not

• 1.Dragon 2.Barrow 3. 3rd Age, Etc.

 

 

 

Where do u buy adam and rune kites?

 

 

 

From me, or the baker

[Sy_Accursed]

Sale of unsaleables definately has become easier.

 

 

 

If you put them up at the minimum price or their know street price and leave it, sure it may take weeks but someone is going to be looking for them and put up a buy that should find you.

 

 

 

As soon as this went live I put in 6 piles of items I had but hadn't bothered to sell or drop. Around 15 mins later I had a kewl 800k cash instead.

[Erichermit]

Hmmm I believe th armor sets below addy are buyable in shop anyway. Only addy and above needs to be player smithed (some items only while some are in shops) so I think alching will still be more popular than selling through GE.

 

 

 

Unless of course, you undercut the shops. Shops seem to sell for a rather expensive price, so if you just sell your Mithril Armor at a little below what the shop sells it, and f2p players actually come looking for it, then this could work for Mith.

 

 

 

Rune, I don't believe, will be profitability affected by this because it was always easy to sell and buy Rune in my opinion (though it will become a bit easier to sell of course.)..