Handheld consoles

[Retefael]

I know people are trying to decide over PS3/360/Wii, but what about the handhelds?

 

 

 

I have neither, but I definitely have, and still cherish, my GBA from about 5 years ago.

 

 

 

So the question is: DS or PSP?

 

 

 

In my opinion, the DS is better. Sure it doesn't lay music and doesn't keep photos, but that's what iPods are for. :D

 

 

 

It can play GBA games (that's a biggie), classic big N franchises, a slew of good games, and TWO SCREENS + STYLUS.

 

 

 

Can't go wrong there.

[Craiglowery]

I would say DS. I love my DS Lite.

[Caxis]

I too suggest a DS. After looking at the PSP library, the only game I want to play is Final Fantasy Tactics, but that's more of a nostalgia thing :-w

 

 

 

But still, check out both of the game libraries.

[nine naked men]

Yeah, PSP is good for little accessories and the like, but I think the better games are on the DS atm. And, the stylus rules.

[Mr_Putter]

It's basically the same as the console race, except this one is slightly more tilted in DS favour.

 

 

 

If you're really into Nintendo games, then it's obvious what to get. The DS also has pretty good third-party support, especially for puzzle and strategy games.

 

 

 

On the other hand, if you want more, dare I say, serious games like shooters (disregard Metroid for a minute), war games, crime games etc. etc. etc., this is probably more likely what you want. Sports are also really good on the PSP, and the multimedia features are sweet (PSOne games please?).

 

 

 

This is similar to the console race, except that Wii happens to have significantly less third-party support there.

 

So to recap:

 

 

 

Nintendo-made games and casual games: DS

 

Generally more serious games, and sports games: PSP

 

 

 

There's also a degree of variation, this is just general.

[Lionheart_0]

DS for sure. Better games (except the damn FF7:crisis Core for psp which I want to play!) and a much wider selection of them. Plus the touch screen is really innovative!

 

 

 

And also, if one gets the special flash carts for the DS slot, one could make the DS play music and I think even videos!

[Abelmisi]

DS. I don't really have much time to write a long post now, but let's just say it has a game library from which you'll definitely be able to pick a game that interests you.

[Straw_Hat]

psp is my choice, i have both but i use my psp alot more

 

 

 

they both have equally good games.

 

 

 

ds: zelda, metriod, mario, pokemon, final fantasy

 

psp: metal gear solid, socom, final fantasy, grand theft auto

 

 

 

but yea web browser, music, photos, videos. makes my ipod useless since it does all that stuff + games

 

 

 

you wouldn't go wrong with either though because both have enough to keep you entertained

[Nadril]

I used to be a bit on the fence about this (leaning towards the PSP) until I got my hands on a DS. At first my roomate just got one, and got Phantom Hourglass for it. It was at that moment that all my complaints about the touch screen being gimmicky vanished, as that game used it brilliantly.

 

 

 

 

 

In reality I enjoy the DS over the PSP for several reasons. The first, to be honest, is cosmetic. Because the DS (lite) folds into its self it protects the screen whenever it is in your pocket. The PSP to me feels more of just a 'mini console' than it does an actual handheld, because it seems more fitting to be carried in a case. The new slim model at least changed up its size but the screen still is too unprotected for my likings and gets dirty easy. (going off of my little brothers PSP I have used in the past).

 

 

 

 

 

Game wise it's a difficult decision. Both handhelds have matured well, however, I still think I enjoy the DS's library over the PSP. The big reason is that it seems like a lot of big name games on the PSP are simply remakes of older PS1 games. I won't lie, the DS has it's good share of remakes as well but overall it seems like there is a bit more originality stemming from the system. Games like new super mario bros were a breath of fresh air. (even if it was another mario game). Likewise the remakes are done well, such as Super mario 64 DS and Mario Kart.

 

 

 

 

 

Homebrew is the next, very major, thing. While the PSP can effectively run 'better' homebrew (I speak from a purely technical standpoint) it is also much more dangerous to homebrew on a PSP. You need to modify firmware which means that some games of yours may just not work at all. To be honest I just don't see the PSP with that large of a homebrew community.

 

 

 

Well, than we have the DS. For something like $70 (an R4DS card + EZ Flash 3 and 1 + 2GB microSD) you can have all of the features of the PSP and much more. While the PSP means you need to modify firmware with the DS all you have to do is put in the cartridge and you're good to go. The DS has an incredibly large homebrew community, and there are tons of great ports for the system. Doom, quake, Duke nukem 3D... they've all been ported over to the DS. Likewise there are web browsers for the DS, word processers (yes), and even paint programs that really transform what the DS can do.

 

 

 

Of course there are also completly homebrew games, some which are quite good. Because of the touch screen it really allows homebrew devs to have some fun and really innovate.

 

 

 

Likewise it is easy to run SNES emulation, GBA emulation (with the EZFlash) and even DS emulation for you dirty pirates out there. There are other emulators as well in works (IIRC There is a genesis one in the works atm) if you just look around.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Price wise the DS, obviously, wins. For $130 for the system its a great buy, Hell I got the DS and 3 good games for under $200.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's what I think at least. Trying to not have much bias, but it's hard considering how much fun the DS really is.

[Futurama]

DS, mostly because I prefer the style of gaming on DS. PSP is a bit serious for me...

[Bloodredsword]

Ds. You can even mod your ds to hold songs and crap (That's very inadvisable though..so don't try it on your own :P).

 

 

 

Ds has better games, and higher replay value for most of them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And its cheeper.

[Biabf]

I'd say get the PSP. I have the DS Lite and it is crap, once I can be bothered I'll sell it. I know lots of people don't care about graphics, but the games on the DS are stupidly poor, the PSP is a lot better. Also the games on the DS are pretty bad, there is the odd good game but I suggest if you aren't younger than 12, get the PSP.

[Nadril]

I'd say get the PSP. I have the DS Lite and it is crap, once I can be bothered I'll sell it. I know lots of people don't care about graphics, but the games on the DS are stupidly poor, the PSP is a lot better. Also the games on the DS are pretty bad, there is the odd good game but I suggest if you aren't younger than 12, get the PSP.

 

 

 

I have to really argue against this.

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, the games on the DS are really poor? Currently this is the "good" lineup on it:

 

 

 

1. Mario Kart DS DS Nintendo 77 8.9 92.0%

 

2. Advance Wars: Dual Strike DS Nintendo 60 8.7 90.4%

 

3. Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow DS Konami 70 8.7 90.4%

 

4. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass DS Nintendo 56 9.1 88.9%

 

5. New Super Mario Bros. DS Nintendo 79 8.8 88.8%

 

6. Meteos DS Nintendo 68 8.4 88.6%

 

7. Planet Puzzle League DS Nintendo 24 10.0 88.1%

 

8. Kirby: Canvas Curse DS Nintendo 62 8.4 87.6%

 

9. Elite Beat Agents DS Nintendo 51 8.8 87.0%

 

10. Animal Crossing: Wild World DS Nintendo 69 8.6 86.4%

 

11. Tetris DS DS Nintendo 60 8.4 86.3%

 

12. Super Mario 64 DS DS Nintendo 77 8.6 86.3%

 

13. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time DS Nintendo 53 8.6 85.5%

 

14. Pokemon Pearl DS Nintendo 41 8.0 85.3%

 

15. Pokemon Diamond DS Nintendo 46 8.6 85.3%

 

16. Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin DS Konami 62 8.8 85.1%

 

17. Metroid Prime: Hunters DS Nintendo 67 8.5 85.0%

 

18. Tony Hawk's American Sk8land DS Activision 39 8.2 84.8%

 

19. Nintendogs: Labrador and Friends DS Nintendo 81 8.3 84.5%

 

20. Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends DS Nintendo 80 8.4 84.4%

 

21. Nintendogs: Dachshund and Friends DS Nintendo 80 8.4 84.4%

 

22. Picross DS DS Nintendo 37 9.3 83.0%

 

23. Sonic Rush DS Sega 57 8.5 83.0%

 

24. Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime DS Square Enix 43 8.2 82.4%

 

25. Clubhouse Games DS Nintendo 33 8.1 82.3%

 

26. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney DS Capcom 61 8.4 82.1%

 

27. Yoshi's Island DS DS Nintendo 49 8.0 82.1%

 

28. WarioWare: Touched! DS Nintendo 67 8.4 81.9%

 

29. Lunar Knights DS Konami 41 8.1 81.7%

 

30. Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords DS D3 41 8.3 81.5%

 

31. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations DS Capcom 36 9.5 81.1%

 

32. Metroid Prime Pinball DS Nintendo 60 8.0 81.1%

 

33. Worms: Open Warfare 2 DS THQ 29 10.0 80.4%

 

34. Trauma Center: Under the Knife DS Atlus Co. 60 8.4 80.4%

 

35. Hotel Dusk: Room 215 DS Nintendo 61 8.0 80.2%

 

36. Age of Empires: The Age of Kings DS Majesco Games 44 8.2 80.0%

 

37. Sonic Rush Adventure DS Sega 33 -- 80.0%

 

38. DK Jungle Climber DS Nintendo 28 8.8 79.2%

 

39. Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day DS Nintendo 37 9.2 78.8%

 

40. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All DS Capcom 54 8.3 78.3%

 

41. Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day DS Nintendo 61 8.2 78.1%

 

42. Final Fantasy III DS Square Enix 47 8.4 77.7%

 

 

 

 

 

I went down a little lower (to 77%) just because a few of those are still good buys.

 

 

 

Now, I know you have this image in your head that the DS is for kids. But in reality the really only 'kids' games on that list could be Nintendo dogs and pokemon, but even then adults love them.

 

 

 

The fact that you think series such as Sonic, Mario and such are 'kids' game really shows how ignorant you are -- or at the least you are young enough not to really remember when those games were common.

 

 

 

 

 

Now, here is the PSP list down to about 79%.

 

 

 

1. Lumines PSP Ubisoft 77 7.9 90.3%

 

2. Wipeout Pure PSP SCEA 77 8.1 88.8%

 

3. Tekken: Dark Resurrection PSP Namco Bandai Games America 62 8.5 88.6%

 

4. Ridge Racer PSP Namco 72 8.0 88.6%

 

5. Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness PSP NIS America 28 9.0 87.7%

 

6. Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions PSP Square Enix 40 9.5 87.7%

 

7. Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories PSP Rockstar Games 85 8.2 87.4%

 

8. Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror PSP SCEA 59 8.4 87.3%

 

9. Burnout Legends PSP EA Games 69 8.6 87.0%

 

10. Jeanne D'Arc PSP SCEA 46 8.1 86.8%

 

11. Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow PSP SCEA 24 8.3 86.7%

 

12. Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops PSP Konami 58 8.7 86.4%

 

13. Daxter PSP SCEA 71 8.6 86.2%

 

14. Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters PSP SCEA 61 8.3 86.0%

 

15. Virtua Tennis: World Tour PSP Sega 49 8.3 85.9%

 

16. Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles PSP Konami 23 10.0 85.6%

 

17. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories PSP Rockstar Games 58 8.2 85.4%

 

18. Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords PSP D3 31 7.7 85.4%

 

19. LocoRoco PSP SCEA 75 8.1 85.2%

 

20. Mega Man Powered Up PSP Capcom 37 8.0 83.7%

 

21. MLB 06: The Show PSP SCEA 35 7.4 83.6%

 

22. Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix PSP Activision 70 7.7 83.1%

 

23. Crush PSP Sega 38 7.0 83.1%

 

24. X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse PSP Activision 41 7.9 83.0%

 

25. OutRun 2006: Coast 2 Coast PSP Sega 38 7.1 82.7%

 

26. Sega Genesis Collection PSP Sega 20 7.9 82.2%

 

27. WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2006 PSP THQ 36 7.6 82.1%

 

28. Sid Meier's Pirates! PSP 2K Games 32 7.2 82.0%

 

29. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance PSP Activision 20 8.3 82.0%

 

30. Lumines II PSP Buena Vista Games 48 7.7 81.9%

 

31. Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee PSP SCEA 62 7.9 81.9%

 

32. MLB PSP SCEA 33 7.4 81.6%

 

33. SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo PSP SCEA 53 7.6 81.6%

 

34. Gitaroo Man Lives! PSP Koei 46 7.7 81.5%

 

35. The Warriors PSP Rockstar Games 40 6.9 81.4%

 

36. Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 PSP Konami 25 5.6 81.4%

 

37. Worms: Open Warfare 2 PSP THQ 27 9.5 81.3%

 

38. SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo 2 PSP SCEA 33 8.1 81.1%

 

39. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06 PSP EA Sports 21 7.9 80.8%

 

40. Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth PSP Square Enix 49 7.9 80.7%

 

41. Madden NFL 07 PSP EA Sports 21 6.7 80.5%

 

42. Metal Gear Acid 2 PSP Konami 61 7.9 80.3%

 

43. Mega Man Maverick Hunter X PSP Capcom 41 8.4 80.3%

 

44. Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX PSP Capcom 39 7.9 80.1%

 

45. Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure PSP Mastiff 38 7.1 79.9%

 

46. Twisted Metal: Head-On PSP SCEA 55 8.0 79.9%

 

47. Killzone: Liberation PSP SCEA 59 8.2 79.7%

 

48. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 PSP EA Sports 25 6.4 79.6%

 

49. SSX On Tour PSP EA Sports Big 25 7.3 79.4%

 

50. Brave Story: New Traveler PSP Xseed Games 31 9.0 79.4%

 

 

 

 

 

My problem really with it is that it seems like there is an unecisary amount of sports games and such. There are still a lot of good games on the system. Maybe it is just me but I really find the DS library superior (although both library's are quite good).

 

 

 

 

 

To be honest the biggest thing I like about the DS is it doesn't just try to be a mini console. I know a lot of people enjoy that sort of thing, but honestly the PSP at most times just feels like I'm carrying a mini PS1 around instead of a new handheld console.

[Harrington]

I personally prefer the PSP and own one now. I love the large screen and the football games that I can buy for it :)

 

 

 

I don't play it very often though.... I still prefer my PC lol

[Biabf]

I never said Mario games in particular were kid's games, but I do think the Mario image has been overused by Nintendo:

 

Mario Tennis

 

Mario Football

 

Mario Kart

 

Mario Brawl

 

Mario Kart

 

Mario Super Bros

 

Mario Olympics

 

Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2

 

Mario Party

 

Super Mario 64 DS

 

Mario Basketball

 

Mario Hoops

 

Mario & Luigi: Partners In Time

 

Super Mario Galaxy

 

ETC.

 

 

 

Personally, I wouldn't even consider half the "good" DS games you listed as good but I guess we have different opinions...

[Medellin]

DS because it fits in my pocket

[Macmaster92]

Well since I have an iphone there really is no need for me to have a psp. As many have said before the Psp is pretty much only good if you dont have an iPod. Plus I'm much more of a casual gamer.

 

 

 

I think the ds is better

[Biabf]

Well since I have an iphone therenreally is no need for me to have a psp. As many have said before the Psp is pretty much only good if you dont have an iPod. Plus I'm much more of a casual gamer.

iPod's don't play proper games, unless you happen to LOVE playing Parachute or Solitaire

[limpbizkit]

Well since I have an iphone therenreally is no need for me to have a psp. As many have said before the Psp is pretty much only good if you dont have an iPod. Plus I'm much more of a casual gamer.

iPod's don't play proper games, unless you happen to LOVE playing Parachute or Solitaire

 

 

 

Or some of the other games on itunes store.

[Mamong]

I'm going to have to go with PSP on this one. I've had mine for quite a while now (I think about 2 years almost) and I am very happy with mine. I have a library of quite diverse games that give me a wide range of games to play.

 

 

 

One thing I will say though, if you DON'T have a PS2, you will enjoy the PSP more. I have a PS2 that I barely use and I prefer using those titles (the ports) on my PSP because I don't use my PS2.

 

 

 

I'm agreeing with Biabf here, I don't like the DS library. It seems too kiddy for me (say what you like, that's what I believe) and presented with libraries from both, I would be able to pick more games that I would enjoy on a PSP then a DS.

 

 

 

I've looked at Nadril's list and bolded all the kiddy/little substance games and there are a lot of them on there.

 

 

 

[hide=Nadrils DS list]1. Mario Kart DS DS Nintendo 77 8.9 92.0%

 

2. Advance Wars: Dual Strike DS Nintendo 60 8.7 90.4%

 

3. Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow DS Konami 70 8.7 90.4%

 

4. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass DS Nintendo 56 9.1 88.9%

 

5. New Super Mario Bros. DS Nintendo 79 8.8 88.8%

 

6. Meteos DS Nintendo 68 8.4 88.6%

 

7. Planet Puzzle League DS Nintendo 24 10.0 88.1%

 

8. Kirby: Canvas Curse DS Nintendo 62 8.4 87.6%

 

9. Elite Beat Agents DS Nintendo 51 8.8 87.0%

 

10. Animal Crossing: Wild World DS Nintendo 69 8.6 86.4%

 

11. Tetris DS DS Nintendo 60 8.4 86.3%

 

12. Super Mario 64 DS DS Nintendo 77 8.6 86.3%

 

13. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time DS Nintendo 53 8.6 85.5%

 

14. Pokemon Pearl DS Nintendo 41 8.0 85.3%

 

15. Pokemon Diamond DS Nintendo 46 8.6 85.3%

 

16. Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin DS Konami 62 8.8 85.1%

 

17. Metroid Prime: Hunters DS Nintendo 67 8.5 85.0%

 

18. Tony Hawk's American Sk8land DS Activision 39 8.2 84.8%

 

19. Nintendogs: Labrador and Friends DS Nintendo 81 8.3 84.5%

 

20. Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends DS Nintendo 80 8.4 84.4%

 

21. Nintendogs: Dachshund and Friends DS Nintendo 80 8.4 84.4%

 

22. Picross DS DS Nintendo 37 9.3 83.0%

 

23. Sonic Rush DS Sega 57 8.5 83.0%

 

24. Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime DS Square Enix 43 8.2 82.4%

 

25. Clubhouse Games DS Nintendo 33 8.1 82.3%

 

26. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney DS Capcom 61 8.4 82.1%

 

27. Yoshi's Island DS DS Nintendo 49 8.0 82.1%

 

28. WarioWare: Touched! DS Nintendo 67 8.4 81.9%

 

29. Lunar Knights DS Konami 41 8.1 81.7%

 

30. Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords DS D3 41 8.3 81.5%

 

31. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations DS Capcom 36 9.5 81.1%

 

32. Metroid Prime Pinball DS Nintendo 60 8.0 81.1%

 

33. Worms: Open Warfare 2 DS THQ 29 10.0 80.4%

 

34. Trauma Center: Under the Knife DS Atlus Co. 60 8.4 80.4%

 

35. Hotel Dusk: Room 215 DS Nintendo 61 8.0 80.2%

 

36. Age of Empires: The Age of Kings DS Majesco Games 44 8.2 80.0%

 

37. Sonic Rush Adventure DS Sega 33 -- 80.0%

 

38. DK Jungle Climber DS Nintendo 28 8.8 79.2%

 

39. Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day DS Nintendo 37 9.2 78.8%

 

40. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All DS Capcom 54 8.3 78.3%

 

41. Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day DS Nintendo 61 8.2 78.1%

 

42. Final Fantasy III DS Square Enix 47 8.4 77.7%[/hide]

 

 

 

I also like the fact that my PSP is more than just a games machine. Not having an iPod, my PSP not only plays games, I can also listen to music, videos and surf the net without needing to buy a bunch of different things. (DS needs all those things you mentioned, PSP needs a Memory Stick and away you go) It is simpler to just plug in my memory stick and away I go.

 

 

 

Just my two cents worth.

[Macmaster92]

Well since I have an iphone therenreally is no need for me to have a psp. As many have said before the Psp is pretty much only good if you dont have an iPod. Plus I'm much more of a casual gamer.

iPod's don't play proper games, unless you happen to LOVE playing Parachute or Solitaire

 

 

 

When i said "i don't need a PSP because i have an iPhone" I was saying that i don't need it because i already have something that can play music, pictures and movies. Thats why i have a DS.

 

 

 

Oh and you can play many games on the iPhone (like guitar Hero) if your good at creating your own programs.

[Biabf]

Well since I have an iphone therenreally is no need for me to have a psp. As many have said before the Psp is pretty much only good if you dont have an iPod. Plus I'm much more of a casual gamer.

iPod's don't play proper games, unless you happen to LOVE playing Parachute or Solitaire

 

 

 

When i said "i don't need a PSP because i have an iPhone" I was saying that i don't need it because i already have something that can play music, pictures and movies. Thats why i have a DS.

 

 

 

Oh and you can play many games on the iPhone (like guitar Hero) if your good at creating your own programs.

We were talking about the iPod...?

[Nadril]

I'm going to have to go with PSP on this one. I've had mine for quite a while now (I think about 2 years almost) and I am very happy with mine. I have a library of quite diverse games that give me a wide range of games to play.

 

 

 

One thing I will say though, if you DON'T have a PS2, you will enjoy the PSP more. I have a PS2 that I barely use and I prefer using those titles (the ports) on my PSP because I don't use my PS2.

 

 

 

I'm agreeing with Biabf here, I don't like the DS library. It seems too kiddy for me (say what you like, that's what I believe) and presented with libraries from both, I would be able to pick more games that I would enjoy on a PSP then a DS.

 

 

 

I've looked at Nadril's list and bolded all the kiddy/little substance games and there are a lot of them on there.

 

 

 

[hide=Nadrils DS list]1. Mario Kart DS DS Nintendo 77 8.9 92.0%

 

2. Advance Wars: Dual Strike DS Nintendo 60 8.7 90.4%

 

3. Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow DS Konami 70 8.7 90.4%

 

4. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass DS Nintendo 56 9.1 88.9%

 

5. New Super Mario Bros. DS Nintendo 79 8.8 88.8%

 

6. Meteos DS Nintendo 68 8.4 88.6%

 

7. Planet Puzzle League DS Nintendo 24 10.0 88.1%

 

8. Kirby: Canvas Curse DS Nintendo 62 8.4 87.6%

 

9. Elite Beat Agents DS Nintendo 51 8.8 87.0%

 

10. Animal Crossing: Wild World DS Nintendo 69 8.6 86.4%

 

11. Tetris DS DS Nintendo 60 8.4 86.3%

 

12. Super Mario 64 DS DS Nintendo 77 8.6 86.3%

 

13. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time DS Nintendo 53 8.6 85.5%

 

14. Pokemon Pearl DS Nintendo 41 8.0 85.3%

 

15. Pokemon Diamond DS Nintendo 46 8.6 85.3%

 

16. Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin DS Konami 62 8.8 85.1%

 

17. Metroid Prime: Hunters DS Nintendo 67 8.5 85.0%

 

18. Tony Hawk's American Sk8land DS Activision 39 8.2 84.8%

 

19. Nintendogs: Labrador and Friends DS Nintendo 81 8.3 84.5%

 

20. Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends DS Nintendo 80 8.4 84.4%

 

21. Nintendogs: Dachshund and Friends DS Nintendo 80 8.4 84.4%

 

22. Picross DS DS Nintendo 37 9.3 83.0%

 

23. Sonic Rush DS Sega 57 8.5 83.0%

 

24. Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime DS Square Enix 43 8.2 82.4%

 

25. Clubhouse Games DS Nintendo 33 8.1 82.3%

 

26. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney DS Capcom 61 8.4 82.1%

 

27. Yoshi's Island DS DS Nintendo 49 8.0 82.1%

 

28. WarioWare: Touched! DS Nintendo 67 8.4 81.9%

 

29. Lunar Knights DS Konami 41 8.1 81.7%

 

30. Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords DS D3 41 8.3 81.5%

 

31. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations DS Capcom 36 9.5 81.1%

 

32. Metroid Prime Pinball DS Nintendo 60 8.0 81.1%

 

33. Worms: Open Warfare 2 DS THQ 29 10.0 80.4%

 

34. Trauma Center: Under the Knife DS Atlus Co. 60 8.4 80.4%

 

35. Hotel Dusk: Room 215 DS Nintendo 61 8.0 80.2%

 

36. Age of Empires: The Age of Kings DS Majesco Games 44 8.2 80.0%

 

37. Sonic Rush Adventure DS Sega 33 -- 80.0%

 

38. DK Jungle Climber DS Nintendo 28 8.8 79.2%

 

39. Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day DS Nintendo 37 9.2 78.8%

 

40. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All DS Capcom 54 8.3 78.3%

 

41. Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day DS Nintendo 61 8.2 78.1%

 

42. Final Fantasy III DS Square Enix 47 8.4 77.7%[/hide]

 

 

 

I also like the fact that my PSP is more than just a games machine. Not having an iPod, my PSP not only plays games, I can also listen to music, videos and surf the net without needing to buy a bunch of different things. (DS needs all those things you mentioned, PSP needs a Memory Stick and away you go) It is simpler to just plug in my memory stick and away I go.

 

 

 

Just my two cents worth.

 

 

 

You honestly think games such as Mario, Tetris and Yoshi's Island are games of 'little substance'? Likewise WarioWare is a mini games collection (bassicly) so I don't know why you'd bother putting that in.

 

 

 

 

 

Also a DS really only needs an R4D4 (and the micoSD card to go in it) for most of that stuff. The EZ Flash 3 in 1 is only needed if you want to play GBA ports.

[jjrox32]

My phone can already play music and stuff like that. I have a DS because I bought a handheld to play games, not carry my entire computer in my pocket.

 

 

 

That and the fact that the PSP has a control scheme that's more frustrating than expert mode on GH3.

[Mamong]

I'm going to have to go with PSP on this one. I've had mine for quite a while now (I think about 2 years almost) and I am very happy with mine. I have a library of quite diverse games that give me a wide range of games to play.

 

 

 

One thing I will say though, if you DON'T have a PS2, you will enjoy the PSP more. I have a PS2 that I barely use and I prefer using those titles (the ports) on my PSP because I don't use my PS2.

 

 

 

I'm agreeing with Biabf here, I don't like the DS library. It seems too kiddy for me (say what you like, that's what I believe) and presented with libraries from both, I would be able to pick more games that I would enjoy on a PSP then a DS.

 

 

 

I've looked at Nadril's list and bolded all the kiddy/little substance games and there are a lot of them on there.

 

 

 

[hide=Nadrils DS list]1. Mario Kart DS DS Nintendo 77 8.9 92.0%

 

2. Advance Wars: Dual Strike DS Nintendo 60 8.7 90.4%

 

3. Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow DS Konami 70 8.7 90.4%

 

4. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass DS Nintendo 56 9.1 88.9%

 

5. New Super Mario Bros. DS Nintendo 79 8.8 88.8%

 

6. Meteos DS Nintendo 68 8.4 88.6%

 

7. Planet Puzzle League DS Nintendo 24 10.0 88.1%

 

8. Kirby: Canvas Curse DS Nintendo 62 8.4 87.6%

 

9. Elite Beat Agents DS Nintendo 51 8.8 87.0%

 

10. Animal Crossing: Wild World DS Nintendo 69 8.6 86.4%

 

11. Tetris DS DS Nintendo 60 8.4 86.3%

 

12. Super Mario 64 DS DS Nintendo 77 8.6 86.3%

 

13. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time DS Nintendo 53 8.6 85.5%

 

14. Pokemon Pearl DS Nintendo 41 8.0 85.3%

 

15. Pokemon Diamond DS Nintendo 46 8.6 85.3%

 

16. Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin DS Konami 62 8.8 85.1%

 

17. Metroid Prime: Hunters DS Nintendo 67 8.5 85.0%

 

18. Tony Hawk's American Sk8land DS Activision 39 8.2 84.8%

 

19. Nintendogs: Labrador and Friends DS Nintendo 81 8.3 84.5%

 

20. Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends DS Nintendo 80 8.4 84.4%

 

21. Nintendogs: Dachshund and Friends DS Nintendo 80 8.4 84.4%

 

22. Picross DS DS Nintendo 37 9.3 83.0%

 

23. Sonic Rush DS Sega 57 8.5 83.0%

 

24. Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime DS Square Enix 43 8.2 82.4%

 

25. Clubhouse Games DS Nintendo 33 8.1 82.3%

 

26. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney DS Capcom 61 8.4 82.1%

 

27. Yoshi's Island DS DS Nintendo 49 8.0 82.1%

 

28. WarioWare: Touched! DS Nintendo 67 8.4 81.9%

 

29. Lunar Knights DS Konami 41 8.1 81.7%

 

30. Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords DS D3 41 8.3 81.5%

 

31. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations DS Capcom 36 9.5 81.1%

 

32. Metroid Prime Pinball DS Nintendo 60 8.0 81.1%

 

33. Worms: Open Warfare 2 DS THQ 29 10.0 80.4%

 

34. Trauma Center: Under the Knife DS Atlus Co. 60 8.4 80.4%

 

35. Hotel Dusk: Room 215 DS Nintendo 61 8.0 80.2%

 

36. Age of Empires: The Age of Kings DS Majesco Games 44 8.2 80.0%

 

37. Sonic Rush Adventure DS Sega 33 -- 80.0%

 

38. DK Jungle Climber DS Nintendo 28 8.8 79.2%

 

39. Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day DS Nintendo 37 9.2 78.8%

 

40. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All DS Capcom 54 8.3 78.3%

 

41. Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day DS Nintendo 61 8.2 78.1%

 

42. Final Fantasy III DS Square Enix 47 8.4 77.7%[/hide]

 

 

 

I also like the fact that my PSP is more than just a games machine. Not having an iPod, my PSP not only plays games, I can also listen to music, videos and surf the net without needing to buy a bunch of different things. (DS needs all those things you mentioned, PSP needs a Memory Stick and away you go) It is simpler to just plug in my memory stick and away I go.

 

 

 

Just my two cents worth.

 

 

 

You honestly think games such as Mario, Tetris and Yoshi's Island are games of 'little substance'? Likewise WarioWare is a mini games collection (bassicly) so I don't know why you'd bother putting that in.

 

 

 

 

 

Also a DS really only needs an R4D4 (and the micoSD card to go in it) for most of that stuff. The EZ Flash 3 in 1 is only needed if you want to play GBA ports.

 

 

 

No, I said kiddy or little substance. Games like tetris, are little substance. Jazz it up all you like, all you are doing is playing the same puzzle over and over. A friend of mine has a DS, and I have played some of those games, and I can say, from my own opinion, that they are too kiddy in my opinion. See them as you wish, that's just me.