Okay, I'm sure that everyone knows that for the past few months, almost all of Jagex's updates have been primarily focused on dealing with the problem of Real World Trading and Autoers. However, do you think that these updates are actually effective, and do the ends justify the means? Is it worth destroying a fairly large legitimate proportion or players in order to achieve the goal of Runescape without cheaters?

 

 

 

Are we headed for a brighter future, or will be eventually bogged down with restrictions, and as a result too many players leaving the game, which will ultimately render Jagex's efforts futile?

 

 

 

I'm in two minds about this. One says that Jagex is doing a very effective job in dealing with this problem, and that sacrifices need to be made. However, the other is that Jagex is destroying too much of Runescape in order to reach an impossible goal.

 

 

 

Is this whole thing worth it?

I don't think its worth it... I logged on the other day for the first time in a few weeks and noticed that shop prices are on steriods and that Varrocks west side looks funky now (both are somewhat connect to destroying the bots). It may be worth it but I think they are moving to fast but any slower and the bots would adapt.

It's all worth it.

 

 

 

I can remember many years ago when, here in the U.S. of A., we used to have a serious problem with illegal drugs. Fortunately, the government stepped in and instituted a set of increasingly tough anti-drug laws. People had their rights violated, small-time users were jailed, normal cold medications became difficult to buy, junkies turned to black markets, and innocent people had their doors kicked in.

 

 

 

But it was all worth the cost, because now there are no more illegal drugs in the US!

personally, i think its worth it. the updates have been good, and staking was an unfortunate casualty, one im sorry to see go. but is it worth it? for now, yes. and you have to keep in mind that jagex has employees with brains, that weigh the risks against the rewards.

 

 

 

and at above, yes we have those problems, but in the end, its better for the people. would you rather have them legal, and those problems explode even more?

I don't think its worth it... I logged on the other day for the first time in a few weeks and noticed that shop prices are on steriods and that Varrocks west side looks funky now (both are somewhat connect to destroying the bots). It may be worth it but I think they are moving to fast but any slower and the bots would adapt.

 

 

 

Yeah, but there are many parts of Runescape, such as simple trading and dropping which are somewhat vital to the continuation of Runescape as we know it, which can be used by Autoers/RWTers. The only logic I can see here is that Jagex will remove them sooner or later. But will there be enough Runescape left to keep standing?

It's all worth it.

 

 

 

I can remember many years ago when, here in the U.S. of A., we used to have a serious problem with illegal drugs. Fortunately, the government stepped in and instituted a set of increasingly tough anti-drug laws. People had their rights violated, small-time users were jailed, normal cold medications became difficult to buy, junkies turned to black markets, and innocent people had their doors kicked in.

 

 

 

But it was all worth the cost, because now there are no more illegal drugs in the US!

 

 

 

Hahahahahahaha, at first, when I was reading this, I was like Qeltar... are you high? What the HECK are you talking about?

 

And then when I read the last sentence it all made sense :lol:

 

 

 

I agree with him by the way.

But it was all worth the cost, because now there are no more illegal drugs in the US!

 

do you really believe this?...

 

 

 

EDIT= ahh now i get ur point :P yea thats true

 

 

 

 

 

and ontopic=I don't think its worth it... prices are dropping like crazy :S and botters won't stop because of things like this

But it was all worth the cost, because now there are no more illegal drugs in the US!

 

do you really believe this?...

 

 

 

and ontopic=I don't think its worth it... prices are dropping like crazy :S

 

 

 

I think he was being sarcastic. Qeltar, sarcasm is sometimes okay to display a point, but make it more obvious on your intentions.

downside of runescape woops.

 

wonder when your max cap you can trade per hour is 3k?

I think the efforts are useless. Sure, it gets rid of methods some minority of people may have used to transfer items, but it's not like those people are stopped now. Everyone will just drop trade, and as long as we have the ability to drop, any steps at all jagex takes will be pretty pointless.

Well this whole issue is buried in a ethical quagmire...

 

 

 

If jagex did nothing about RWT the people would complain. If they tried people would complain... I think jagex has just stopped listening to us because put simply we are a bunch of whiners.... :?

This reminds me of some movie where, in order to make whatever it is perfect, the robot in charge tries to detsroy everything there or something. Don't remember what it was called, but that's kinda what this is. Eventually they'll just close down the game to stop the cheaters :wall:

This reminds me of some movie where, in order to make whatever it is perfect, the robot in charge tries to detsroy everything there or something. Don't remember what it was called, but that's kinda what this is. Eventually they'll just close down the game to stop the cheaters :wall:

 

 

 

Oh, I think I've seen it. Damn, I can't remember the title either, but yes, that's basically what's going on. Jagex is trying to achieve perfection by destroying what is imperfect, or even has the potential to be imperfect. In the end, you realise that once that goal is performed, there is not enough of the perfect to have a point.

 

 

 

Maybe we just have accept that there is no way to have a self sustaining game without some kind of method of cheating, and so we will just have to resort to reporting and manual banning?

It's still easy as hell to sell rs items for real world cash. :roll:

It won't solve anything. You can still have fake DMs in the wild or pretend to get killed by a monster, poison, etc. If someone wants to buy gold, there is no way Jagex will stop them (except with a ban). :shame:

It won't solve anything. You can still have fake DMs in the wild or pretend to get killed by a monster, poison, etc. If someone wants to buy gold, there is no way Jagex will stop them (except with a ban). :shame:

 

 

 

Exactly. And most of the time theres no way for Jagex to find out if you sell gp.

So what's the best way of doing this? Acceptance?

its worth it

Its worth it but i wish they didnt change things that so many people loved so much because a select few want to do illegal things. Its a shame when people like that have to ruin the game for everyone else.

But it was all worth the cost, because now there are no more illegal drugs in the US!

 

do you really believe this?...

 

 

 

and ontopic=I don't think its worth it... prices are dropping like crazy :S

 

 

 

I think he was being sarcastic. Qeltar, sarcasm is sometimes okay to display a point, but make it more obvious on your intentions.

 

 

 

I don't know about anyone else, but that seemed fairly obvious that it was sarcasm to me.

 

 

 

Anyways, I don't see any real way how Jagex can stop RWT for good..Although they're destroying stuff we like, it shows that they're still trying (kind of).

It won't solve anything. You can still have fake DMs in the wild or pretend to get killed by a monster, poison, etc. If someone wants to buy gold, there is no way Jagex will stop them (except with a ban). :shame:

 

 

 

I diasgree. Gold trading (at least in worthwhile amounts) can easily be stopped. We already have the Duel Arena blocked and the GE for trade. All Jagex has to do now are the following :

 

 

 

1) Dropped coins are immeduately destroyed

 

2) If you are carring coins when you die those coins are destroyed

 

3) No direct transfer of cash between players via the Trade Screen. You would still be able to trade between players, but only on a "barter" basis. ie. no cash involved

 

 

 

This I think covers all the possible ways to transfer large amounts of cash.

It's all worth it.

 

 

 

I can remember many years ago when, here in the U.S. of A., we used to have a serious problem with illegal drugs. Fortunately, the government stepped in and instituted a set of increasingly tough anti-drug laws. People had their rights violated, small-time users were jailed, normal cold medications became difficult to buy, junkies turned to black markets, and innocent people had their doors kicked in.

 

 

 

But it was all worth the cost, because now there are no more illegal drugs in the US!

USA have a problem with drugs? Man thats never happened before. It was all a conspiracy to collect tax money.

Jagex has done a lot for the rtw and autoer issues. However, we will not see the effects of these changes just yet. If my assumptions are correct, this is only a step towards removing them and by the time Jagex is done with them, there will be no use for autoing. I think Jagex will slowly cut away their tasks by implementing new systems such as they did to the pure ess. Of course this is only my assumption so there is a high chance that I am wrong, but it seems like a logical approach.

It's all worth it.

 

 

 

I can remember many years ago when, here in the U.S. of A., we used to have a serious problem with illegal drugs. Fortunately, the government stepped in and instituted a set of increasingly tough anti-drug laws. People had their rights violated, small-time users were jailed, normal cold medications became difficult to buy, junkies turned to black markets, and innocent people had their doors kicked in.

 

 

 

But it was all worth the cost, because now there are no more illegal drugs in the US

 

wow.. last part was funny.. no more drugs LMMFAO!!

Glad that I left Runescape when I did. Jagex is slowly killing the game off, be it intentional or not, Its days are numbered.