Zombie Plans-Revised

[Kiriyama]

You would most likely want a moat, around 6 feet wide and 10 feet deep, with palisades on the inside of it. Zombies that fell in would be executed, and if the bodies stacked up too high, we'd burn them = even better defenses.

 

with alligators?

 

I was thinking crocodiles.

 

 

 

I suggest a compromise.

 

 

 

We shall breed them, and call them Crocigators.

[deathdrow]

You would most likely want a moat, around 6 feet wide and 10 feet deep, with palisades on the inside of it. Zombies that fell in would be executed, and if the bodies stacked up too high, we'd burn them = even better defenses.

 

with alligators?

 

I was thinking crocodiles.

 

 

 

I suggest a compromise.

 

 

 

We shall breed them, and call them Crocigators.

 

And put piranha guns on their head?

 

with lasers attached to the piranhas?

[Kiriyama]

Now you're stepping too far out of reality.

[deathdrow]

Now you're stepping too far out of reality.

 

Well, assuming the zombie apocalypse happens in the future. these things could be around.

 

I just have big expectations.

[baalboy5]

You would most likely want a moat, around 6 feet wide and 10 feet deep, with palisades on the inside of it. Zombies that fell in would be executed, and if the bodies stacked up too high, we'd burn them = even better defenses.

 

with alligators?

 

I was thinking crocodiles.

 

 

 

I suggest a compromise.

 

 

 

We shall breed them, and call them Crocigators.

 

Wouldnt they starve and eat eachother without a suffent amount of zombies?

 

Zombie Crocigators?

[deathdrow]

You would most likely want a moat, around 6 feet wide and 10 feet deep, with palisades on the inside of it. Zombies that fell in would be executed, and if the bodies stacked up too high, we'd burn them = even better defenses.

 

with alligators?

 

I was thinking crocodiles.

 

 

 

I suggest a compromise.

 

 

 

We shall breed them, and call them Crocigators.

 

Wouldnt they starve and eat eachother without a suffent amount of zombies?

 

Zombie Crocigators?

 

oh no.

 

They'll turn on us. and munch on our laser cannons.

[Kiriyama]

Fine.

 

 

 

But I get a Dragon Mount. That farts fire, with a laser cannon on its chest, with eyes as dark and empty as a black hole, that is completely covered in armour that is black with a blood-red trim.

 

 

 

See how stupid that sounds? Same goes for your laser firing piranhas fired from a gun.

 

 

 

We shall attract Zombies then, the Crocigators get half, we kill the other half.

[deathdrow]

Fine.

 

 

 

But I get a Dragon Mount. That farts fire, with a laser cannon on its chest, with eyes as dark and empty as a black hole, that is completely covered in armour that is black with a blood-red trim.

 

 

 

See how stupid that sounds? Same goes for your laser firing piranhas fired from a gun.

 

 

 

We shall attract Zombies then, the Crocigators get half, we kill the other half.

 

That didn't sound stupid at all.

 

and sorry im being kinda nubtastic. im just, really really hyper. i shouldn't go on tif when im hyper. so. yeah. kittens. RAWR!@#)*!#%@#!#21

 

I've always wished i had a flashlight that shot out darkness.

[Lenin64]

You would most likely want a moat, around 6 feet wide and 10 feet deep, with palisades on the inside of it. Zombies that fell in would be executed, and if the bodies stacked up too high, we'd burn them = even better defenses.

 

with alligators?

 

No, tigers.

[ember3579]

Uhh..... I'll just ignore the last dozen or so posts. Seriously, why is it that almost all topics in this forum degenerate into stuff like this once they go past 30 or so pages? -.-

 

 

 

Here's something that I think few haven't thought up. How difficult would it be to make a tunnel network to move around in? It would deter most bandits, it would be almost limitless in expansion, and it's easily defensible. The only real problem that I can see is if people do something to the entrances. However, the best prevention I can see for this is to have both multiple entrances, and a good number of air holes. This sort of thing would require a large group to maintain properly (potentially creating crowding problems, if the structure isn't designed well), but it would be the best thing ever for keeping a low profile. Sorry about the pun. :D

[Wisp]

Uhh..... I'll just ignore the last dozen or so posts. Seriously, why is it that almost all topics in this forum degenerate into stuff like this once they go past 30 or so pages? -.-

 

 

 

Here's something that I think few haven't thought up. How difficult would it be to make a tunnel network to move around in? It would deter most bandits, it would be almost limitless in expansion, and it's easily defensible. The only real problem that I can see is if people do something to the entrances. However, the best prevention I can see for this is to have both multiple entrances, and a good number of air holes. This sort of thing would require a large group to maintain properly (potentially creating crowding problems, if the structure isn't designed well), but it would be the best thing ever for keeping a low profile. Sorry about the pun. :D

 

Tunnels require a lot of a maintenance, and would be difficult, and there would be no way to get food. It would stop zombies, bandits, whatever, but we would only be able to stay alive as long as our food lasted. It might be a nice idea to have a tunnel system under a stronghold as a last ditch escape. An escape tunnel filled with supplies would probably be the best thing. If the exit of the tunnel was solid metal, there would be no way zombies could get in. So, living in a tunnel system probably wouldn't work too well, but tunnels along with a normal stronghold would be good.

[ember3579]

Uhh..... I'll just ignore the last dozen or so posts. Seriously, why is it that almost all topics in this forum degenerate into stuff like this once they go past 30 or so pages? -.-

 

 

 

Here's something that I think few haven't thought up. How difficult would it be to make a tunnel network to move around in? It would deter most bandits, it would be almost limitless in expansion, and it's easily defensible. The only real problem that I can see is if people do something to the entrances. However, the best prevention I can see for this is to have both multiple entrances, and a good number of air holes. This sort of thing would require a large group to maintain properly (potentially creating crowding problems, if the structure isn't designed well), but it would be the best thing ever for keeping a low profile. Sorry about the pun. :D

 

Tunnels require a lot of a maintenance, and would be difficult, and there would be no way to get food. It would stop zombies, bandits, whatever, but we would only be able to stay alive as long as our food lasted. It might be a nice idea to have a tunnel system under a stronghold as a last ditch escape. An escape tunnel filled with supplies would probably be the best thing. If the exit of the tunnel was solid metal, there would be no way zombies could get in. So, living in a tunnel system probably wouldn't work too well, but tunnels along with a normal stronghold would be good.

 

 

 

The food problem is why location is very important. If you can find an area where you can make a tunnel network and allow the general flora and fauna above your head to do it's thing, then you have both a very defensible location and a large food supply. Also, it shouldn't be extremely difficult to grow your own food, especially if you have one or more strongholds for the various entrances. For the maintenance problem, that's why you'd need to have both people who know that sort of thing well (miners might work, especially if you're in an area like West Virginia), and a good number of people to assist in the maintenance. I'm not sure what a good group size would be, but if you can get a large group to work together (shouldn't be hard when they know that zombies are inbound), it shouldn't be too hard to maintain anything you make. For the metal entrances idea, while that would help immensely against zombies and other similar-intelligence people, it would be a huge sign to anybody able to think that there's looting to be done. It wouldn't be ill-advised to make the non-fortified entrances fairly deep, so as to create the illusion that it's a natural one. Bandits might select it as a place to hang out at, but they probably wouldn't be suspecting an attack from deeper in the cave.

[Wisp]

Uhh..... I'll just ignore the last dozen or so posts. Seriously, why is it that almost all topics in this forum degenerate into stuff like this once they go past 30 or so pages? -.-

 

 

 

Here's something that I think few haven't thought up. How difficult would it be to make a tunnel network to move around in? It would deter most bandits, it would be almost limitless in expansion, and it's easily defensible. The only real problem that I can see is if people do something to the entrances. However, the best prevention I can see for this is to have both multiple entrances, and a good number of air holes. This sort of thing would require a large group to maintain properly (potentially creating crowding problems, if the structure isn't designed well), but it would be the best thing ever for keeping a low profile. Sorry about the pun. :D

 

Tunnels require a lot of a maintenance, and would be difficult, and there would be no way to get food. It would stop zombies, bandits, whatever, but we would only be able to stay alive as long as our food lasted. It might be a nice idea to have a tunnel system under a stronghold as a last ditch escape. An escape tunnel filled with supplies would probably be the best thing. If the exit of the tunnel was solid metal, there would be no way zombies could get in. So, living in a tunnel system probably wouldn't work too well, but tunnels along with a normal stronghold would be good.

 

 

 

The food problem is why location is very important. If you can find an area where you can make a tunnel network and allow the general flora and fauna above your head to do it's thing, then you have both a very defensible location and a large food supply. Also, it shouldn't be extremely difficult to grow your own food, especially if you have one or more strongholds for the various entrances. For the maintenance problem, that's why you'd need to have both people who know that sort of thing well (miners might work, especially if you're in an area like West Virginia), and a good number of people to assist in the maintenance. I'm not sure what a good group size would be, but if you can get a large group to work together (shouldn't be hard when they know that zombies are inbound), it shouldn't be too hard to maintain anything you make. For the metal entrances idea, while that would help immensely against zombies and other similar-intelligence people, it would be a huge sign to anybody able to think that there's looting to be done. It wouldn't be ill-advised to make the non-fortified entrances fairly deep, so as to create the illusion that it's a natural one. Bandits might select it as a place to hang out at, but they probably wouldn't be suspecting an attack from deeper in the cave.

 

 

 

For a start, you overestimate the amount of food that a single area can provide if it's just "doing it's own thing." Thousands of years ago, people survived only by hunting and gathering. The only way they were able to do this though, was by constantly moving. There are only so many deer, rabbits, moose, or fish in one area. Only so many berries and edible plants.

 

But again, living in a tunnel system alone is not a good idea. Imagine what an earthquake would do, or even a flood. Mine collapse all too often around the world, and those have machinery to help insure their safety. I still think a normal stronghold, with an escape tunnel would be the best compromise. If somehow the stronghold's defenses were breached, we could fall back to the secondary defenses of the tunnel, and if need be, escape through it. The area where I am planning to go would not have much of a problem with bandits, most likely. It's quite isolated, and bandits would more likely be in higher populated regions.

[Lenin64]

The area where I am planning to go would not have much of a problem with bandits, most likely. It's quite isolated, and bandits would more likely be in higher populated regions.

 

What about roving bands of thieving gypsies?

 

 

 

But seriously, if you build a big tunnel system, isn;t it likely that the ground above may become too weak from all the space underneath it and everything will just collapse? Good if the zombies have broken in, but very bad if you haven't gotten out.

[Wisp]

The area where I am planning to go would not have much of a problem with bandits, most likely. It's quite isolated, and bandits would more likely be in higher populated regions.

 

What about roving bands of thieving gypsies?

 

 

 

But seriously, if you build a big tunnel system, isn;t it likely that the ground above may become too weak from all the space underneath it and everything will just collapse? Good if the zombies have broken in, but very bad if you haven't gotten out.

 

That's another reason it's a bad idea. And regardless, making a ten foot wall surrounding a large area is a whole lot easier than digging an entire cave system out under that same area. It would be safer too, and would allow us to actually have a renewable source of food. An escape tunnel out of a walled area would be nice, but living there would not be a good thing.

[osutampa]

Have any of you ever read a book named Cell by (I believe) Stephen King? Good zombie book, especially at the beginning when everybody gets transformed via their cell phones.

 

 

 

But personally my view of the zombie takeovers is as follows: 75% of the human population gets immediately turned into a zombie (within 1-2 days) 22% gets killed in the immediate aftermath when all communication goes down and there is the, naturally, amazingly epic battle. Final tally: 50% of humans are zombies, 5% are left alive to try and make it out.

 

 

 

I kind of see this going as a movie script in some ways. I'm envisioning the classic three guys two girl thing going on. I'm seeing me, two of my best friends, and my two best girl friends all chilling in my buddies basement on a Saturday night. Next thing you know BOOM MOTHER [bleep]ER!!! Me and my boys are kicking [wagon] & taking names, the girls got our backs. We grab any potential weapons at my friends' houses (they leave right next door to each other) and pile in my car (why my car? it has sub woofers and who the hell wouldn't want to bump while they're running like crazy?) and make a break through my town in the early dawn Monday morning to my house to get all of my (dead) dad's guns and stuff. So now, armed to the gills, we ditch out of our city (50,000+) and drive like crazy for about a half hour to get out to my grandparent's house. This would naturally follow a stop off at my work, which is a grocery store, to get all the food, water, and supplies we can get. And we would get as much gasoline as we could. So anyways we would get to my grandparents house which is kind of in the middle of nowhere, and plan our defense.

 

 

 

They have a ~100 gallon tank of gasoline/oil (not sure which) which would prove to be vital, for running the house and blowing up when we have to make our escape when the zombies show up. My grandpa also has a [cabbage]-ton of guns and ammo that would re-arm us after our escape from my town. I figure we would have at least 5-10 days to lay low here and make our plans, which, naturally, I already have planned out and would just have to convince my friends of. Eventually the zombies would find us and we would kick some [wagon] until we blew off the oil drum and piled out. At this point we would drive east for 2-3 hrs until we got to Pennsylvania and a few hours later the place where my grandparents family is from, which, coincidentally, is in the middle of f'in nowhere. At this point I fully expect one of my two guy friends to be dead. One of the girls (preferably the brunette, both they are both pretty cool and hot so whatever) would be in love with me and the other girl would love my other dude friend. So basically there would be the final show-down out here, resulting in me kicking an enormous amount of [wagon].

 

 

 

Then we would set up a farm or something and set up a mini-haven for other humans to come with and help rebuild our world after the natural demise of the zombies.

 

 

 

 

 

In case you can't tell, this is something that I have seriously considered. Especially since I read that Stephen King book.

 

 

 

 

 

Thoughts??

[osutampa]

Have any of you ever read a book named Cell by (I believe) Stephen King? Good zombie book, especially at the beginning when everybody gets transformed via their cell phones.

 

 

 

But personally my view of the zombie takeovers is as follows: 75% of the human population gets immediately turned into a zombie (within 1-2 days) 22% gets killed in the immediate aftermath when all communication goes down and there is the, naturally, amazingly epic battle. Final tally: 50% of humans are zombies, 5% are left alive to try and make it out.

 

 

 

I kind of see this going as a movie script in some ways. I'm envisioning the classic three guys two girl thing going on. I'm seeing me, two of my best friends, and my two best girl friends all chilling in my buddies basement on a Saturday night. Next thing you know BOOM MOTHER [bleep]!!! Me and my boys are kicking [wagon] & taking names, the girls got our backs. We grab any potential weapons at my friends' houses (they leave right next door to each other) and pile in my car (why my car? it has sub woofers and who the hell wouldn't want to bump while they're running like crazy?) and make a break through my town in the early dawn Monday morning to my house to get all of my (dead) dad's guns and stuff. So now, armed to the gills, we ditch out of our city (50,000+) and drive like crazy for about a half hour to get out to my grandparent's house. This would naturally follow a stop off at my work, which is a grocery store, to get all the food, water, and supplies we can get. And we would get as much gasoline as we could. So anyways we would get to my grandparents house which is kind of in the middle of nowhere, and plan our defense.

 

 

 

They have a ~100 gallon tank of gasoline/oil (not sure which) which would prove to be vital, for running the house and blowing up when we have to make our escape when the zombies show up. My grandpa also has a [cabbage]-ton of guns and ammo that would re-arm us after our escape from my town. I figure we would have at least 5-10 days to lay low here and make our plans, which, naturally, I already have planned out and would just have to convince my friends of. Eventually the zombies would find us and we would kick some [wagon] until we blew off the oil drum and piled out. At this point we would drive east for 2-3 hrs until we got to Pennsylvania and a few hours later the place where my grandparents family is from, which, coincidentally, is in the middle of f'in nowhere. At this point I fully expect one of my two guy friends to be dead. One of the girls (preferably the brunette, both they are both pretty cool and hot so whatever) would be in love with me and the other girl would love my other dude friend. So basically there would be the final show-down out here, resulting in me kicking an enormous amount of [wagon].

 

 

 

Then we would set up a farm or something and set up a mini-haven for other humans to come with and help rebuild our world after the natural demise of the zombies.

 

 

 

 

 

In case you can't tell, this is something that I have seriously considered. Especially since I read that Stephen King book.

 

 

 

 

 

Thoughts??

 

Write a [bleep] novel? That's all I can really say, you appear to have considered this alot.

 

 

 

I'll take that as a compliment.

[indy500fan]

I think gasoline might be able to explode, but oil will just burn. Either way just having it in a drum barrel with a fuse leading to it won't cause a big explosion. It has to be under pressure of some sort I think.

[osutampa]

I think gasoline might be able to explode, but oil will just burn. Either way just having it in a drum barrel with a fuse leading to it won't cause a big explosion. It has to be under pressure of some sort I think.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I mean it isn't just like a big tub of it sitting there. It is connected to a generator, which can power the whole house/barn/shed thingy. My thinking before was that hopefully all three of those would simultaneously explode, but now that I'm thinking about it that isn't really all that realistic.

[indy500fan]

Yeah things don't usually explode, they usually just burn. 100 gallons won't last long in a generator that powers an entire house either, you'll need much more than that to make it through a winter.

[dragoonson]

Collect hamsters for my power creating wheel.Alternatively,shove a few zombies in there and show them brains.Power crisis solved.

[Guest]

Collect hamsters for my power creating wheel.Alternatively,shove a few zombies in there and show them brains.Power crisis solved.

 

 

 

We're saved. Dragoonson, we owe you our lives.

[doomy]

A moat...Hmm, how can you get out?

 

 

 

Actually, what if you built like a walkway maybe 1-1.5m off the ground over the moat...Zombies can't climb so it could work as an escape route?

 

 

 

And I'm not sure about how plausible a tunnel network would be, I mean if its discovered youre kinda screwed, because they can come at you from quite a few directions?

[dragoonson]

War tunnels,built in haste can take months.Proper,well planned tunnels can take years.Hell,with technology,some tunnels take years.Doubt any tunnel we would use in a zombie invasion would be built by us on the spot.

[Lenin64]

A moat...Hmm, how can you get out?

 

 

 

Actually, what if you built like a walkway maybe 1-1.5m off the ground over the moat...Zombies can't climb so it could work as an escape route?

 

 

 

And I'm not sure about how plausible a tunnel network would be, I mean if its discovered youre kinda screwed, because they can come at you from quite a few directions?

 

But what if the zombies can climb, man? What then?! Build a bigger wall? Crazy! Though it would work.