Zombie Plans-Revised

[mmmcannibalism]

zombie virus only infects humans, it kills anything else.

[Wisp]

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But honey bees are having enough problems as it is. Do you know how hard it would be for most animals to survive in the post-zombie world? There would be so much pollution. Billions of campfires daily, at least in the beginning, industrial explosions and chemical spills. Bees are good, but I doubt they would be able to survive.

[Skull]

We'll farm cockroaches. Giant cockroaches. With lazors.

[Lenin64]

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But honey bees are having enough problems as it is. Do you know how hard it would be for most animals to survive in the post-zombie world? There would be so much pollution. Billions of campfires daily, at least in the beginning, industrial explosions and chemical spills. Bees are good, but I doubt they would be able to survive.

 

Campfires? Are you being serious right now? A buncha campfires aren't going mess up pollution to the point where it's killing off bees, especially since the combined total population of humanity across the globe will have been cut by about 90%. And are industrial explosions really a big threat? Chances are the machinery in a factory has been shut down for the night, and even if it gets left on it'd just run until it runs out of gas. It's not like the zmbies will go around thinking, "Hey, let's blow some [cabbage] up", either.

[Wisp]

First off, 90% of the population isn't going to die from the start. If there's a horde of 25 million zombies shuffling towards your city, you're not gonna think "Well, there are still more humans than zombies in the world, I'm just going to stay here". The majority of people would evacuate, and since the zombies we're thinking about will literally freeze in the winter, most people in the states would probably try to head towards northern Canada. All those hundreds of millions of people would need to stay warm, and eat. Within the first few months, most of the trees would have been used for fires. Billions of campfires in the first few months would do a lot, and throw in all the bombs set off by the military, in an attempt to stop them. And that's not even considering what would happen if a country tried to use nukes to stop them. People probably aren't going to care about the environment quite so much when they're running from zombies. Either way, bees are dying off as it is. Even a slightly altered ecosystem might be last straw.

[Georgelemmons]

Well, the point is that the zombies are dead humans. The people get infected, die, and become zombies. The zombies don't just appear out of thin air.

 

 

 

So really, 90% of the population dead is realistic.

[Riku3220]

Well, the point is that the zombies are dead humans. The people get infected, die, and become zombies. The zombies don't just appear out of thin air.

 

 

 

So really, 90% of the population dead is realistic.

 

Not in the first few months it isn't. I'd say around 55% of the world should be infected after the first 6 months.

[Georgelemmons]

Well, the point is that the zombies are dead humans. The people get infected, die, and become zombies. The zombies don't just appear out of thin air.

 

 

 

So really, 90% of the population dead is realistic.

 

Not in the first few months it isn't. I'd say around 55% of the world should be infected after the first 6 months.

 

Well, it depends how virulent this zombie plague is. If very few people are immune, and it's airborne, then it'll spread much faster. If it's just by touch or spread like HIV, then maybe about 10-20% of the population will get infected before we stop touching each other :lol:

[Dizzle229]

Wait... are these Romero zombies (dead, and shuffling) or 28 Days Later zombies, living infected?

 

 

 

28 Days Later zombies you just need to suvive for about a month or two for them to starve to death.

 

 

 

And that's another thing. Say they ARE 28 Days Later style. They all die and the survivors try to rebuild. How do you dispose of the bodies, and all the infected blood that's still around?

[Wisp]

Well, the point is that the zombies are dead humans. The people get infected, die, and become zombies. The zombies don't just appear out of thin air.

 

 

 

So really, 90% of the population dead is realistic.

 

Just because something spreads doesn't mean everyone is going to become infected. If 500 million people in the world become zombies, your going to hear about it, and probably try to evacuate and go hide somewhere. If the number of zombies doubled every week, it would take 30 weeks to infect even 1/6th of the human population. People are going to wise up, and figure out what the zombies actually are sooner or later. In fact, in a long term zombie apocalypse (3+ years since society collapsed), I would guess these would be the numbers :

 

 

 

45% of population infected (around 3 billion people.)

 

35% dead from starvation, internal conflict or other non-zombie causes (2,275,000,000) People-ish

 

25% Alive. Of the 25% alive:

 

5% Living alone or with a small group, possibly still under siege by the undead

 

10% In mostly unaffected areas (ie: islands, places where the government handled the situation extremely well)

 

10% In medium to large colonies where the infected have been repelled. Possibly still under siege.

 

 

 

Also, 28 days later zombies would be almost no threat. To paraphrase max brooks, author of the zombie survival guide,

 

 

 

"There's this one scene in 28 days later, where the crazy army commander shows the guy the zombie tied up in the yard. Then he explained that it would eventually show him how long it took the infected to starve to death. Well, if they can starve, they can die of thirst too, and humans can only live for about 3 days without water. So what the movie really should be called is '4 days later' and the story would be the guy walking out of the hospital, and seeing a few mostly-dead lying around the streets"

[Georgelemmons]

So living zombies don't know how to eat or drink?

 

 

 

I think living zombies would be more like wild animals, able to hunt and survive, but not think (very well, at least).

[Wisp]

I was talking about rage-zombies/28 days later. Those guys just kill. Romero zombies eat, but they don't actually have to.

[Dizzle229]

Romero zombies eat, but they don't actually have to.

 

 

 

So basically what you're saying is, Romero zombies are jerks.

[Guest]

Romero zombies eat, but they don't actually have to.

 

 

 

So basically what you're saying is, Romero zombies are jerks.

 

 

 

Yeah, that sounds right :thumbdown:

[Wisp]

Romero zombies eat, but they don't actually have to.

 

 

 

So basically what you're saying is, Romero zombies are jerks.

 

 

 

Yeah, that sounds right :thumbdown:

 

Pretty much. And also they rot really slowly, since most of the bacteria that would normally decompose a corpse is killed by the virus, so it takes them upwards of 5 years (depending on conditions) for them to rot.

[indy500fan]

Well, the point is that the zombies are dead humans. The people get infected, die, and become zombies. The zombies don't just appear out of thin air.

 

 

 

So really, 90% of the population dead is realistic.

 

 

 

I did some math earlier in the topic about how many people would die, and I came up with 99% of people would be unaffected. I work in the dead people business, so I know how they handled during their re-animation possible times. From being dead to buried is about 3 days, and after that they won't be a problem anymore.

 

 

 

Not sure about the 99% figure anymore, there are just too many variables. 99% alive still means 1% dead though, and 1% would be around 67 million people. I still believe it wouldn't be nearly as bad as any fiction portrays it (even WWZ which has taken the most "realistic" for lack of a better word approach). If it starts at a particular point and spreads from there I think it really depends on where it happens how bad the world will be. If it happens in India with 1 billion people pretty close by and newly bitten people easily getting lost in the population then there will be serious human losses. Alternatively if it happened around here, knowing what I know about how dead are handled and how the people around here act I don't see it ever getting out of control. A few hundred people at most.

 

 

 

You have to remember that people aren't completely stupid. If they get bit, they will seek medical attention. If they don't go when they get bit they will go when the wound looks infected and they have a fever. Most won't get bit though, we are talking slow zombies. Most people will avoid getting near a slow shuffling person who isn't saying anything to them, or possibly making guttural noises. After people get bit some will travel anyways and the infection could spread some. When the doctors call the CDC (which they inevitably will when a person dies from getting bit by a human being and then comes back to life) then they will notify other doctors to notify them when they get similar cases.

[Mikaleh]

If I was being attacked by zombies I would pull out my penis and threaten to rape them.

 

 

 

If that doesn't scare them off than I'll call the cops.

[Wisp]

I think it would start out really small, but if even one zombie escapes and isn't killed, it could start an outbreak in an isolated area. In rural 3rd world countries, if your bitten, but don't know about the virus, you probably wouldn't be able to get help even if you were getting a fever (note: in wwz, in the first interview, the doctor mentions that the wound wasn't infected, and it's later said that this is because all the bacteria that would normally be in a human mouth is killed by the virus). But, for about 12 hours after being bitten there are no noticeable effects, other than like a headache, which are common anyway. So if your bitten in a crowded subway station while commuting to work at 9:30 am, you wouldn't notice anything till 9:30. By that time it would only be a small fever, and you'd probably just go to sleep. While you sleep you'd slip into a coma, and re-animate the next morning. One interesting way that wwz mentions that it could spread was through blood transfusions and such from illegal sources.

[indy500fan]

Yep, largely depends on where it starts. I would say it could kill between .00001% and 50% of the population of the world depending on where it starts, and a few other factors (winter or summer would make a big difference). Anything more that 20% of the population would probably cause global instability and the amount of people dieing from related factors (lack of food/water during travel, bandits in highly deadly areas ect...) will become a significant part.

[Wisp]

I would guess that almost as many people would die from starvation and being ill equipped to handle wherever they run off to. even if there was news of a zombie outbreak in some third world country thousands of miles away, people would still panic, most likely.

[Furah]

I think it would start out really small, but if even one zombie escapes and isn't killed, it could start an outbreak in an isolated area. In rural 3rd world countries, if your bitten, but don't know about the virus, you probably wouldn't be able to get help even if you were getting a fever (note: in wwz, in the first interview, the doctor mentions that the wound wasn't infected, and it's later said that this is because all the bacteria that would normally be in a human mouth is killed by the virus). But, for about 12 hours after being bitten there are no noticeable effects, other than like a headache, which are common anyway. So if your bitten in a crowded subway station while commuting to work at 9:30 am, you wouldn't notice anything till 9:30. By that time it would only be a small fever, and you'd probably just go to sleep. While you sleep you'd slip into a coma, and re-animate the next morning. One interesting way that wwz mentions that it could spread was through blood transfusions and such from illegal sources.

 

 

 

Also, infected in clubs and pubs would be seen as drunk, so people won't pay much attention to them, and might not even be able to really notice what they are doing as they themselves may be drunk.

[dragoonson]

People get sick>go to hospitals>other patients infected>pass to nurses and doctors>pass to familes of all infected>pass to colleauges and classmates>quarantine,enforced by soldiers who get infected...blah blah blah.

[H2PM]

Wait... are these Romero zombies (dead, and shuffling) or 28 Days Later zombies, living infected?

 

 

 

28 Days Later zombies you just need to suvive for about a month or two for them to starve to death.

 

 

 

And that's another thing. Say they ARE 28 Days Later style. They all die and the survivors try to rebuild. How do you dispose of the bodies, and all the infected blood that's still around?

 

Exactly. But see how 28 Weeks Later played out is that someone's wife who was infected..but wasent showing any symptoms of the infection, I.E. compleatly freaking out and beating the living [beep] out of everyone, but was still a carryer of the virus, kiss her and he got infected and there we go. Fire bombing of London. Also..THEY ARE NOT ZOMBIES! They are people infected with rage... :wall:

 

 

 

In Short...If a senario like this happens, dont let anybody back into the city/town.

[Dizzle229]

Wait... are these Romero zombies (dead, and shuffling) or 28 Days Later zombies, living infected?

 

 

 

28 Days Later zombies you just need to suvive for about a month or two for them to starve to death.

 

 

 

And that's another thing. Say they ARE 28 Days Later style. They all die and the survivors try to rebuild. How do you dispose of the bodies, and all the infected blood that's still around?

 

Exactly. But see how 28 Weeks Later played out is that someone's wife who was infected..but wasent showing any symptoms of the infection, I.E. compleatly freaking out and beating the living [beep] out of everyone, but was still a carryer of the virus, kiss her and he got infected and there we go. Fire bombing of London. Also..THEY ARE NOT ZOMBIES! They are people infected with rage... :wall:

 

 

 

In Short...If a senario like this happens, dont let anybody back into the city/town.

 

 

 

No. They are zombies. Zombies are people, living or dead, who have lost their normal human thought process and now attack uninfected humans.

[H2PM]

No they are not zombies because they are alive!

 

 

 

They just dont eat people, they beat the living Crap out of people.

 

 

 

Zombies = dead, require head shot.

 

 

 

28 days later = not dead, but inraged people, and dont need to require a head shot.