Guest Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Read a little bit of the guide, and some things came up. First of all, mabye we should attack the zombies, to help clean the area. Think about it, if we kill, say, 500 zombies, it means there are 500 less threats to deal with. First, we find a high up building. we completly cover up are enterences, and we sit ontop of this building, making as much noise as we can. We have, say, 50 men up there and 5 helicopters. Once the zombies start arriving, they're sitting ducks. They can'y do a thing to harm us, while we have guns, large rocks, bolts, any kind of ammo to kill them with. It doesn't matter how many come, as long as we have plently of ammo. Once we've cleaned them all up, run out of ammo or supplies, we simply fly away on our helicopters. After, of course, burning any dead bodies that we killed. That leaves too much to chance, though. First off, what happens if one or more of the helicopters malfunctions? What if you don't have enough fuel to get away far enough that the zombies won't be able to follow the sound of your helicopter? What if one of the undead somehow make it up to where you're perched at? And, of course, do you REALLY want to broadcast your position to bandits like that? That's part of why going on the offensive is a dangerous proposition; it can not only go real bad real fast (even by comparison to being defensive), and it gives any looters or various other bad uninfected people a beacon to follow. It's risk and reward. You can take the risk, and in the end, you'd be alot safer. And bandits do show up - so what? They still can't reach you. Obviously they could try and gun you, but if its 500 zombies and you shooting at them, looters won't last too long. I'm not sure, but I don't think that you can do this particular plan reliably without having your home base nearby. Looters would follow the helicopter, thereby finding your BOA and can plan out a way of getting in, killing you, and taking your s@#%. And if you say that the rooftop's your base, you are woefully uneducated in the ways of the zombie survival. I'm assuming we have a large community put together, of 300 armed people or more, in a huge building, such as the upper level of a mall. Trust me, it would have to be a huge group of looters to do anything. Good point about zombies following the chopper back, though. You could get over run if you attact too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ember3579 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Read a little bit of the guide, and some things came up. First of all, mabye we should attack the zombies, to help clean the area. Think about it, if we kill, say, 500 zombies, it means there are 500 less threats to deal with. First, we find a high up building. we completly cover up are enterences, and we sit ontop of this building, making as much noise as we can. We have, say, 50 men up there and 5 helicopters. Once the zombies start arriving, they're sitting ducks. They can'y do a thing to harm us, while we have guns, large rocks, bolts, any kind of ammo to kill them with. It doesn't matter how many come, as long as we have plently of ammo. Once we've cleaned them all up, run out of ammo or supplies, we simply fly away on our helicopters. After, of course, burning any dead bodies that we killed. That leaves too much to chance, though. First off, what happens if one or more of the helicopters malfunctions? What if you don't have enough fuel to get away far enough that the zombies won't be able to follow the sound of your helicopter? What if one of the undead somehow make it up to where you're perched at? And, of course, do you REALLY want to broadcast your position to bandits like that? That's part of why going on the offensive is a dangerous proposition; it can not only go real bad real fast (even by comparison to being defensive), and it gives any looters or various other bad uninfected people a beacon to follow. It's risk and reward. You can take the risk, and in the end, you'd be alot safer. And bandits do show up - so what? They still can't reach you. Obviously they could try and gun you, but if its 500 zombies and you shooting at them, looters won't last too long. I'm not sure, but I don't think that you can do this particular plan reliably without having your home base nearby. Looters would follow the helicopter, thereby finding your BOA and can plan out a way of getting in, killing you, and taking your s@#%. And if you say that the rooftop's your base, you are woefully uneducated in the ways of the zombie survival. I'm assuming we have a large community put together, of 300 armed people or more, in a huge building, such as the upper level of a mall. Trust me, it would have to be a huge group of looters to do anything. Good point about zombies following the chopper back, though. You could get over run if you attact too many. How in all the Hells are you going to support that many people without somewhere to grow food for that many people? While large, armed groups do help deter your average shady character, anybody with their wits about them could do things in such a large group that they wouldn't be able to otherwise. Also, you have a lot less control over the spread of insanity in the ranks (go watch The Mist, you'll see what I mean). You never know which rabbit hole you jump into will lead to Wonderland. - Ember3579Aku Soku Zan. - ShinsengumiYou wanna mess with me or my friends? Pick your poison.If you have any complaints about me, please refer to this link. Your problems are important to me.Don't talk smack if you're not willing to say it to the person's face. On the same line, if you're not willing to back up your opinions no matter what, your opinion may as well be nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 [hide=]Read a little bit of the guide, and some things came up. First of all, mabye we should attack the zombies, to help clean the area. Think about it, if we kill, say, 500 zombies, it means there are 500 less threats to deal with. First, we find a high up building. we completly cover up are enterences, and we sit ontop of this building, making as much noise as we can. We have, say, 50 men up there and 5 helicopters. Once the zombies start arriving, they're sitting ducks. They can'y do a thing to harm us, while we have guns, large rocks, bolts, any kind of ammo to kill them with. It doesn't matter how many come, as long as we have plently of ammo. Once we've cleaned them all up, run out of ammo or supplies, we simply fly away on our helicopters. After, of course, burning any dead bodies that we killed. That leaves too much to chance, though. First off, what happens if one or more of the helicopters malfunctions? What if you don't have enough fuel to get away far enough that the zombies won't be able to follow the sound of your helicopter? What if one of the undead somehow make it up to where you're perched at? And, of course, do you REALLY want to broadcast your position to bandits like that? That's part of why going on the offensive is a dangerous proposition; it can not only go real bad real fast (even by comparison to being defensive), and it gives any looters or various other bad uninfected people a beacon to follow. It's risk and reward. You can take the risk, and in the end, you'd be alot safer. And bandits do show up - so what? They still can't reach you. Obviously they could try and gun you, but if its 500 zombies and you shooting at them, looters won't last too long. I'm not sure, but I don't think that you can do this particular plan reliably without having your home base nearby. Looters would follow the helicopter, thereby finding your BOA and can plan out a way of getting in, killing you, and taking your s@#%. And if you say that the rooftop's your base, you are woefully uneducated in the ways of the zombie survival. I'm assuming we have a large community put together, of 300 armed people or more, in a huge building, such as the upper level of a mall. Trust me, it would have to be a huge group of looters to do anything. Good point about zombies following the chopper back, though. You could get over run if you attact too many. How in all the Hells are you going to support that many people without somewhere to grow food for that many people? While large, armed groups do help deter your average shady character, anybody with their wits about them could do things in such a large group that they wouldn't be able to otherwise. Also, you have a lot less control over the spread of insanity in the ranks (go watch The Mist, you'll see what I mean).[/hide] Only members of the Zombie defense force would be with us, assuming of course numbers grow should there be an outbreak, so everyone should be fairly organsied and follow orders. And simple, we have acres of farm land around the building. Living somewhere doesn't mean you never leave the building. Of course, we would have a "great wall of china" surrounding our farming land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Ok, for a start: Attracting or actively hunting zombies if you're trying to survive, and aren't trying to retake an area for humanity is one of the stupidest things you could do. Look at your average rural/suburban area. Let's say it's suburbia. In each house, there are at least 5 rooms with doors blocking them off (bathrooms, bedrooms, closets). What if, in their ignorance someone locked a zombie in one of those rooms, hoping they could find a cure. What if you walk into a room, and before you have a chance to respond, a zombie who had it's legs crippled, is biting your ankles. your dead. What if 20 zombies swarm you. I doubt anyone (except maybe a few) who uses this forum is actually an good marksman/woman. If you have a rifle, depending on the clip size, you might have 10 shots before you reload. You fire ten off, which would take you some time to aim and get headshots on all of them, then you have to fumble around in your belt/whatever for another clip, put that it, and chamber the first round. By that time, a zombie could be eating you. Zombies following helicopters isn't a problem. Zombies in the new area hearing the helicopter and swarming to wherever you land. Especially if it's an emergency landing, that would mean you're likely dead. On the topic of bandits, who says they're not better equipped than you? What if one of them got an apc or a tank, they can just run through your barricades. What if one has a decent sniper rifle, and kills all your guards before you even know where they are. What if they have a helicopter? You can't just shoot it down, even if you had the ability too, that would set your building on fire, and cause an explosion. The best thing to do, no matter what, is go to the middle of no where. at least 50-100 miles from any civilization, and make a place where you can farm to stay alive. The chances of a zombie running into you is low, and if it does, you should have atleast a basic wall, and people keeping guard. Bandits would be hard pressed to find you, and would stay closer to what's left of civilization Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 That's why I said zombie's following the helicopter wasn't the problem, it's just all the zombies heading towards wherever you landed. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 What if you have an emergency landing in a field? What if there are no supplies? Almost all the airports would have been emptied early on? What's the stop the zombies who are already there from eating you. And more importantly, who here has ever even flown a helicopter? Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle229 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 What if you have an emergency landing in a field? What if there are no supplies? Almost all the airports would have been emptied early on? What's the stop the zombies who are already there from eating you. And more importantly, who here has ever even flown a helicopter? I have 15 hours of flight experience tyvm. In GTA IV........ Get back here so I can rub your butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I have about five with helicopters, but that was just one weekend. I could fly if I needed. I have a lot with small planes though. I forget the exact number, though i have it recorded somewhere. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlzPuddngPlz Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Just thought I'd add "the fastest zombies have been clocked at 1 step per 1.5 seconds" Relative speed for ya. EDIT:Reading the WWZ book now OTHER EDIT: hit the halfway mark, think I'll take a break so I don't get too paranoid. SECOND OTHER EDIT: finished it : ), it's pretty good Sig by me, in MS paint, but I'm still working on it. Suggestions appreciated This guide is as concise as a gourmet's handbook with the guidelines of "Pick up fork, stab food, insert into your mouth, then chew". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Ok, read some more of the guide. Here is my new fail-safe plan: Within one week of the outbreak (assuming it was a decent ways away): Pack up, bringing only essinals and mabye a few entertainment supplies. Rally family, friends, and their familys and friends. Travel to a remote area with buildings already built, such as a small "ghost town" (assuming we can find one, many people will have fled entirely) and clean the area of zombies. This means searching the land, water, buildings, everything. Once that is done, we begin living. We dig a huge trench around the town, at least 10 feet deep, with a plank across it. According to the guide, zombies are un cordinated, and cannot balance, so if we build a reasonably thin bridge across the ditch, only humans can cross. Of course, this would be well guarded. (We clear the area surrounding, so no possible hiding spots for bandits/snipers. From that... Live our life. The way I see it, we're zombie proof and bandit proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle229 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 [yt]fLvzKUqSqeo[/yt] Classic :thumbsup: Get back here so I can rub your butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlzPuddngPlz Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 "I don't have 1 plan, I have 37 plans!" Sig by me, in MS paint, but I'm still working on it. Suggestions appreciated This guide is as concise as a gourmet's handbook with the guidelines of "Pick up fork, stab food, insert into your mouth, then chew". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDawn Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 That video always makes me crack up :lol:. "Briiiiiaaaaannnnnn, I want Briiiiiaaannnnnnn!" "Caboose you moron it's brains not Brian!" "Oh! Sorry, I musta read the script wrong. Moooooannniinnggggggg..." XD. That's why you're on the TZDF blackdawn. Even your balls can tear zombies to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 well seeing as by the time the zombie apocalypse comes ill probably be living on me multi-acreage in country aus. large house, bomb shelter, hopfully my centurion tank (cheap-ish apparently), perfected my PBG grenades,normal grenades, have some shotguns and some machineguns, and hopefully enough food to survive a few months without leaving the house. ill be well defended. i hope. i should also build some turrets with motion sensors to mow down zombies as they wander onto my property. anything i need to add here to survive? ;s I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 well seeing as by the time the zombie apocalypse comes ill probably be living on me multi-acreage in country aus. large house, bomb shelter, hopfully my centurion tank (cheap-ish apparently), perfected my PBG grenades,normal grenades, have some shotguns and some machineguns, and hopefully enough food to survive a few months without leaving the house. ill be well defended. i hope. i should also build some turrets with motion sensors to mow down zombies as they wander onto my property. anything i need to add here to survive? ;s Moat of acid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 well seeing as by the time the zombie apocalypse comes ill probably be living on me multi-acreage in country aus. large house, bomb shelter, hopfully my centurion tank (cheap-ish apparently), perfected my PBG grenades,normal grenades, have some shotguns and some machineguns, and hopefully enough food to survive a few months without leaving the house. ill be well defended. i hope. i should also build some turrets with motion sensors to mow down zombies as they wander onto my property. anything i need to add here to survive? ;s Moat of acid. how large would you recommend? it has to be large enough for zombies to not jump over it. and anything i can use other than acid? thats kinda hard to come by in large quantities I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 well seeing as by the time the zombie apocalypse comes ill probably be living on me multi-acreage in country aus. large house, bomb shelter, hopfully my centurion tank (cheap-ish apparently), perfected my PBG grenades,normal grenades, have some shotguns and some machineguns, and hopefully enough food to survive a few months without leaving the house. ill be well defended. i hope. i should also build some turrets with motion sensors to mow down zombies as they wander onto my property. anything i need to add here to survive? ;s Moat of acid. how large would you recommend? it has to be large enough for zombies to not jump over it. and anything i can use other than acid? thats kinda hard to come by in large quantities 2 feet wide, 6'5 deep should do it. Zombies can't jump, so as long as they dont simply step over it your good. And leave it empty, and every morning check and kill anything in the moat/trench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 well seeing as by the time the zombie apocalypse comes ill probably be living on me multi-acreage in country aus. large house, bomb shelter, hopfully my centurion tank (cheap-ish apparently), perfected my PBG grenades,normal grenades, have some shotguns and some machineguns, and hopefully enough food to survive a few months without leaving the house. ill be well defended. i hope. i should also build some turrets with motion sensors to mow down zombies as they wander onto my property. anything i need to add here to survive? ;s Moat of acid. how large would you recommend? it has to be large enough for zombies to not jump over it. and anything i can use other than acid? thats kinda hard to come by in large quantities 2 feet wide, 6'5 deep should do it. Zombies can't jump, so as long as they dont simply step over it your good. And leave it empty, and every morning check and kill anything in the moat/trench. id rather it a bit wider than 2 feet. what if a zombie fell over and was used as a bridge? :thumbdown: 8'5 or so tbh...and maybe put metal [bleep]es on the bottom? I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdrow Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 well seeing as by the time the zombie apocalypse comes ill probably be living on me multi-acreage in country aus. large house, bomb shelter, hopfully my centurion tank (cheap-ish apparently), perfected my PBG grenades,normal grenades, have some shotguns and some machineguns, and hopefully enough food to survive a few months without leaving the house. ill be well defended. i hope. i should also build some turrets with motion sensors to mow down zombies as they wander onto my property. anything i need to add here to survive? ;s Moat of acid. how large would you recommend? it has to be large enough for zombies to not jump over it. and anything i can use other than acid? thats kinda hard to come by in large quantities 2 feet wide, 6'5 deep should do it. Zombies can't jump, so as long as they dont simply step over it your good. And leave it empty, and every morning check and kill anything in the moat/trench. id rather it a bit wider than 2 feet. what if a zombie fell over and was used as a bridge? :thumbdown: 8'5 or so tbh...and maybe put metal [bleep]es on the bottom? No metal [bleep]es, they'll interfere with your disposing of the corpses after they fall in, and you kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 well seeing as by the time the zombie apocalypse comes ill probably be living on me multi-acreage in country aus. large house, bomb shelter, hopfully my centurion tank (cheap-ish apparently), perfected my PBG grenades,normal grenades, have some shotguns and some machineguns, and hopefully enough food to survive a few months without leaving the house. ill be well defended. i hope. i should also build some turrets with motion sensors to mow down zombies as they wander onto my property. anything i need to add here to survive? ;s Moat of acid. how large would you recommend? it has to be large enough for zombies to not jump over it. and anything i can use other than acid? thats kinda hard to come by in large quantities 2 feet wide, 6'5 deep should do it. Zombies can't jump, so as long as they dont simply step over it your good. And leave it empty, and every morning check and kill anything in the moat/trench. id rather it a bit wider than 2 feet. what if a zombie fell over and was used as a bridge? :thumbdown: 8'5 or so tbh...and maybe put metal [bleep]es on the bottom? No metal [bleep]es, they'll interfere with your disposing of the corpses after they fall in, and you kill them. True. And don't worry, zombies are insanely un-cordinated, they can't use bridges any thinner then around 4 feet wide. Unless you get a sumo-wrestler zombie, you should be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 well seeing as by the time the zombie apocalypse comes ill probably be living on me multi-acreage in country aus. large house, bomb shelter, hopfully my centurion tank (cheap-ish apparently), perfected my PBG grenades,normal grenades, have some shotguns and some machineguns, and hopefully enough food to survive a few months without leaving the house. ill be well defended. i hope. i should also build some turrets with motion sensors to mow down zombies as they wander onto my property. anything i need to add here to survive? ;s Moat of acid. how large would you recommend? it has to be large enough for zombies to not jump over it. and anything i can use other than acid? thats kinda hard to come by in large quantities 2 feet wide, 6'5 deep should do it. Zombies can't jump, so as long as they dont simply step over it your good. And leave it empty, and every morning check and kill anything in the moat/trench. id rather it a bit wider than 2 feet. what if a zombie fell over and was used as a bridge? :thumbdown: 8'5 or so tbh...and maybe put metal [bleep]es on the bottom? No metal [bleep]es, they'll interfere with your disposing of the corpses after they fall in, and you kill them. True. And don't worry, zombies are insanely un-cordinated, they can't use bridges any thinner then around 4 feet wide. Unless you get a sumo-wrestler zombie, you should be safe. better safe than sorry. i dont wana be eaten as for disposing bodies harder with [bleep]es, ill just poor petrol in the hole and burn it, followed by a few grenades I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdrow Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Moat of acid. how large would you recommend? it has to be large enough for zombies to not jump over it. and anything i can use other than acid? thats kinda hard to come by in large quantities 2 feet wide, 6'5 deep should do it. Zombies can't jump, so as long as they dont simply step over it your good. And leave it empty, and every morning check and kill anything in the moat/trench. id rather it a bit wider than 2 feet. what if a zombie fell over and was used as a bridge? :thumbdown: 8'5 or so tbh...and maybe put metal [bleep]es on the bottom? No metal [bleep]es, they'll interfere with your disposing of the corpses after they fall in, and you kill them. True. And don't worry, zombies are insanely un-cordinated, they can't use bridges any thinner then around 4 feet wide. Unless you get a sumo-wrestler zombie, you should be safe. better safe than sorry. i dont wana be eaten as for disposing bodies harder with [bleep]es, ill just poor petrol in the hole and burn it, followed by a few grenades That's just stupid. it would attract waay too much attention. and probably wouldn't be good for the [bleep]es. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Ok, according to the zombie guide, a zombie can pull itself up a 5 (sometimes up to 6 or so foot wall) and about 1 in 4 could climb a ladder. So a zombie could easily get over a bridge. And 4 feet wide is pretty damn wide. As long as it didn't decide to walk in to the pit, it would be fine. [bleep]es are bad. They would pin the zombies down, and it would make it easier for them to crawl over eachother. And unless the [bleep]e went through the head, it wouldn't help. Why the hell would you pour petrol, what would be the rarest needed resource in the world on zombies to burn them? and grenades? Grenades are designed to shred vital organs in the chest/stomach. Throwing a grenade into a crowd of zombies would make them a lot slower, but only some would be actually killed. Grenades such for this. Here's a better solution: Build a 10 foot wall. No zombie could get over that, even if they pile on top of eachother, if you put barbed wire at the top. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdrow Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Ok, according to the zombie guide, a zombie can pull itself up a 5 (sometimes up to 6 or so foot wall) and about 1 in 4 could climb a ladder. So a zombie could easily get over a bridge. And 4 feet wide is pretty damn wide. As long as it didn't decide to walk in to the pit, it would be fine. [bleep]es are bad. They would pin the zombies down, and it would make it easier for them to crawl over eachother. And unless the [bleep]e went through the head, it wouldn't help. Why the hell would you pour petrol, what would be the rarest needed resource in the world on zombies to burn them? and grenades? Grenades are designed to shred vital organs in the chest/stomach. Throwing a grenade into a crowd of zombies would make them a lot slower, but only some would be actually killed. Grenades such for this. Here's a better solution: Build a 10 foot wall. No zombie could get over that, even if they pile on top of eachother, if you put barbed wire at the top. and pits on the both sides of the wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Pits on the inside would just reduce the amount of space you have, and a make it harder to escape if you ever had too. But whatever works, I guess. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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