North Korea

[Hannibal]

 

Hmm..interesting idea. China vs US as a result from North Korean nuclear ambitions? Very possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, China and the United Nations (which the U.S. was a member of) did clash during the Korean War. After the surprise Inchon Landing, North Korea was getting pounded by the UN forces. The North Korean's retreated back up to Pyongyang (NK Capital) and China stepped in, mainly because China feared that if North Korea fell to the UN, then the Chinese border would be threatened also. The Chinese+North Koreans eventually drove the UN out of Pyongyang and North Korea and back down to South Korea, where the war remained a stalemate, and a treaty was signed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So yes, going by the theory of 'history repeats itself', it North Korea was attacked by any hostile forces, chances are China will step in and defend that country. Because if NK falls, that's a fairly large chunk of their border exposed to invasion, and they won't like that :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, me and a classmate had to do a 50+ slide powerpoint on the Korean war :mrgreen:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, you did forget to mention that North Korea first invaded South Korea (which then got UN support). Otherwise, very true stuff. However, I doubt China will dare help North Korea if they launch a nuclear missile - it would create too much tension in the world and between the US/NATO and China, and China wouldn't be capable of handling that.

[cjlhdevil]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bush is a dumb wagon ..im american ..was behind him til his second term. all he wants to do is put U.S on bottom of food chart so his lil saudi buddies can kill us all

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bottom of food chart, what the heck is that supposed to mean??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Has he let up on terrorists at all??

 

 

 

Ah yeah so what day was Bin laden caught then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bin laden, multi-billionaire, head of the worlds' largest terrorist organization, isnt exactly easy to catch...

 

 

 

at least he caught saddam, give him credit for that. he is also doing a good job in the middle east, lots of countries are making steps towards democracy. there is alot of hype against him, but if you look at bush's years in office objectively, youll see hes done a decent job with foreign affairs.

So wait wait. What did Saddam have to do with the death of 2000+ Americans? I woulda thought that unless there was another agenda he might have actually gone after the one that killed the americans... Rather than having 10x+ the amount of troops in a country that as of yet has not effected america...

[Faux]

Sorry I'm lost, one question though, what would a country want from North Korea to invade it?

[chaos3333]

my thoughts, Bush is gonna save us all, and the liberal media is gonna twist it into some kinda crap like they usually do, making him look like the bad guy, and further lowering their ratings..

 

 

 

lmao bush.save sumwon???? hes an idiot he would more likely invade north career for the fun of it

[hohto]

North Korea is at the moment one of the biggest risks in world. Not only that they've been rumoured to test nuclear weapons, but also the thing how they are led and threatened other countries.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The way people are forced to adore North Korean leader Kim Jong Il is sick. It's worse than in the Soviet Union when Stalin was their leader. People aren't allowed to say anything neutral or bad about him, they can only heil. They have to knee infront of his pictures every day and listen to his speeches. Kim Jong Il himself doesn't care about the people in his country. I don't see a reason why he wouldn't use a nuclear weapon against South Korea if it was needed. He doesn't give a damn if few thousand North Koreans die. Also the media is really twisted there. Some times ago there was a deadly train accident. First they didn't even say a word about it in their own newspapers, then some pictures started to spread and they said that "like 10 people died", however the damage was great and you can imagine how many really died.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm somehow afraid of the WW3. Not about the thing that it comes, but about the thing how it will be fought. If North Korea decides to use nuclear weapon or there's evidence that they could use it against some country allied to USA, Mr. worldsaver George Bush will push the button. Russia is doing well with the USA (Putin and Bush are good friends), so basically they could also come with their weapons. China is so close to North Korea that it could also receive some damage from nuclear weapons. This might lead into a fight where Russia and USA are bombing North Korea and China. Doesn't sound too good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I don't believe in Bush. He is a man who is willing to do anything to make it sure that everything in USA is great. The main reason why they attacked to Iraq wasn't Saddam Hussein or nuclear weapons. They wanted oil. Oil was worth more than thousands of human lives... Iraqian lives. Also the things that Bush has said aren't wise. He said that they were able to make Vietnam a democratic place, so Iraq isn't anything new. The thing is that in Vietname there was actually a lot of people wanting democracy and were willing to fight for it. In Iraq there hasn't been democracy ever (unless you count imperialistic age or few decades after it was ended and basically nothing worked) and people were actually used to their system. The change won't come fast and it will cost thousands of human lives. Personally I hope that Bush will stay at White House and won't say or do a thing for few years. I hope his follower is actually able to lead USA.

[Guest]

I can't see a reason for North Korea to use it's nuclear weapons, it would be a suicide...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I don't think USA wolud invade NK. The border between North and South Korea is one of the most fortified areas in the world, and by the time they attacked, the North Korean artillery would start firing about 500k gunshots/hour to South Korea.

[Silver_Dragon]

 

my thoughts, Bush is gonna save us all, and the liberal media is gonna twist it into some kinda crap like they usually do, making him look like the bad guy, and further lowering their ratings..

 

 

 

lmao bush.save sumwon???? hes an idiot he would more likely invade north career for the fun of it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

north careeer...that made me lol :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't see a reason for North Korea to use it's nuclear weapons, it would be a suicide...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I don't think USA wolud invade NK. The border between North and South Korea is one of the most fortified areas in the world, and by the time they attacked, the North Korean artillery would start firing about 500k gunshots/hour to South Korea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But all NK would need is a few nukes to clear out the DMZ, then SK would be very open to attack. :?

[Rease]

But all NK would need is a few nukes to clear out the DMZ, then SK would be very open to attack. :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They have just as many soldiers in the DMZ as SK does, so I doubt they'd randomly attack it. Assuming NK decides to pull back its troops in order to nuke the DMZ, do you think SK would be dumb enough to stick around when they're aware of the nukes?

[Silver_Dragon]

 

But all NK would need is a few nukes to clear out the DMZ, then SK would be very open to attack. :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They have just as many soldiers in the DMZ as SK does, so I doubt they'd randomly attack it. Assuming NK decides to pull back its troops in order to nuke the DMZ, do you think SK would be dumb enough to stick around when they're aware of the nukes?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hmm good point, but you never know with kim jong, he might snap one day and do it :P

[Adolpha]

So wait wait. What did Saddam have to do with the death of 2000+ Americans? I woulda thought that unless there was another agenda he might have actually gone after the one that killed the americans... Rather than having 10x+ the amount of troops in a country that as of yet has not effected america...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Before the invasion, bush had evidence that saddam had weapons of mass destruction, which could be supplied to terrorists and then used against the united states.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

although we now all know that there were probably no such weapons, no1 could tell for sure before the iraqi war. so bush had 2 choices:

 

 

 

1. sit on his hands and hope that the intelligence is false

 

 

 

2. attack iraq and eliminate the threat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

he chose the latter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i didnt support invading iraq a few years ago, but people were scared after 9/11. (the public demands silly things when they are scared. what do you think the reaction wouldve been if it turned out that one of saddams missiles was used on new york?) so i dont blame bush for what he did. things arnt turning out too bad in the middle east...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I don't believe in Bush. He is a man who is willing to do anything to make it sure that everything in USA is great. The main reason why they attacked to Iraq wasn't Saddam Hussein or nuclear weapons. They wanted oil. Oil was worth more than thousands of human lives... Iraqian lives. Also the things that Bush has said aren't wise. He said that they were able to make Vietnam a democratic place, so Iraq isn't anything new. The thing is that in Vietname there was actually a lot of people wanting democracy and were willing to fight for it. In Iraq there hasn't been democracy ever (unless you count imperialistic age or few decades after it was ended and basically nothing worked) and people were actually used to their system. The change won't come fast and it will cost thousands of human lives. Personally I hope that Bush will stay at White House and won't say or do a thing for few years. I hope his follower is actually able to lead USA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the war was definitely not about oil. how much had been spent on the war? 150+ billion as of now. you could invest half of that into oil drilling on other parts of the world and still get way more oil than you could ever get out of iraq.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also the things that Bush has said aren't wise. He said that they were able to make Vietnam a democratic place, so Iraq isn't anything new.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im sure Bush never said that because Vietnam is a communist country.

[KnightLite]

 

 

bush is a dumb wagon ..im american ..was behind him til his second term. all he wants to do is put U.S on bottom of food chart so his lil saudi buddies can kill us all

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bottom of food chart, what the heck is that supposed to mean??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Has he let up on terrorists at all??

Ah yeah so what day was Bin laden caught then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

o jeez i dont know, care to explain why he is now hiding if he's still alive (which I believe he is) He went from being a brutal monster to some greaseball that's on the run.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but yeah, Bush didn't help at all... :roll:

[Demeige]

 

 

 

bush is a dumb wagon ..im american ..was behind him til his second term. all he wants to do is put U.S on bottom of food chart so his lil saudi buddies can kill us all

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bottom of food chart, what the heck is that supposed to mean??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Has he let up on terrorists at all??

Ah yeah so what day was Bin laden caught then?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

o jeez i dont know, care to explain why he is now hiding if he's still alive (which I believe he is) He went from being a brutal monster to some greaseball that's on the run.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perhaps because....he doesn't want to get caught and killed...? Possibly?...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but yeah, Bush didn't help at all... :roll:

[Merry]

Well here goes my two cents worth...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think North Korea shouldn't waste all its Money on its Military and Nuclear Bombs. When their economy is doing so bad. Did you know that North Koreans are dying of hunger. Its so bad that its even gone towards Cannabalism. People sell it and say its ham, but most know better...but since their so hungry their willing to do anything. Alot of Children try to go over the borders to china, but only 7% make it. and in China they just live on the streets, most times getting sent back to korea. There are these places in North Korea that Keep the orphans(after their parents die of starvation) so that way they'll be out of everyones way, but they just leave them there to die. The government doesn't take care of them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also did you know that Korean Goverment officials have decieved people about how the war between north and south Korea came about...They say that America was the ones that started it, when in accuality we all know it was north Korea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just watched two Specials on the Discovery Channel about Korea today, that is were I learned all this...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a family friend of ours who is in the Army is going to be sent to Korea the end of this year...I believe to South Korea.

[audee]

 

 

my thoughts, Bush is gonna save us all, and the liberal media is gonna twist it into some kinda crap like they usually do, making him look like the bad guy, and further lowering their ratings..

 

 

 

lmao bush.save sumwon???? hes an idiot he would more likely invade north career for the fun of it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

north careeer...that made me lol :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't see a reason for North Korea to use it's nuclear weapons, it would be a suicide...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I don't think USA wolud invade NK. The border between North and South Korea is one of the most fortified areas in the world, and by the time they attacked, the North Korean artillery would start firing about 500k gunshots/hour to South Korea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But all NK would need is a few nukes to clear out the DMZ, then SK would be very open to attack. :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

how are they gonna march thru DMZ when after being nuked? probably they will die from radiation...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But i see hope instead of WWW3... remember seeing the north and south folks met up with one another.. its a gd sign... Well.. pple just assume that they have this or have that.. in the end wads up? nuttin at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Proclaim to possess Nukes.. yeah.. i doubt NK will juz use it for offence.. probably for defence purposes..

[Bubsa]

 

Also the things that Bush has said aren't wise. He said that they were able to make Vietnam a democratic place, so Iraq isn't anything new.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im sure Bush never said that because Vietnam is a communist country.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The fact that it's Bush makes me believe that he actually did say it.

[y0ur_m0ther]

my thoughts, Bush is gonna save us all, and the liberal media is gonna twist it into some kinda crap like they usually do, making him look like the bad guy, and further lowering their ratings..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bush cant even tie his own shoe, probably because he looks just like a chimp? Pmg 8) how can he save us all when he even can't help a single person in his own country :roll:

[Bmw]

 

my thoughts, Bush is gonna save us all, and the liberal media is gonna twist it into some kinda crap like they usually do, making him look like the bad guy, and further lowering their ratings..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bush cant even tie his own shoe, probably because he looks just like a chimp? Pmg 8) how can he save us all when he even can't help a single person in his own country :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Way to ruin an intellectual conversation. First of all, making fun of him because you believe he looks like a chimp? So what? How superficial is that, making fun of someone because of the way they look? You must be in grade 5 or something :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second, he hasn't helped a single person in his country? Thats why majority of Americans voted for him? Don't speak if you don't have a clue what you're talking about :roll:

[fire_thugRS]

who knows any more what we are told is true but what i think is if they do screw with us we have nucs also, and iam sure North Korea doesnt want a nuc war as much as we do because they would profit none from it just a destroyed country.

[Dark_Tigra]

Well here goes my two cents worth...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think North Korea shouldn't waste all its Money on its Military and Nuclear Bombs. When their economy is doing so bad.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds like another country I know...Oh yea, America.

[Dark_Tigra]

Anyways,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had the chance to go to Seoul, South Korea when I was about 11, to train further in Tae Kwon Do with Yung Hoeuk Lee, but I ended up not going because it was $7,000 :(. Lame.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's pretty bad there I guess (I mean in North Korea), I mean, if you're so desperate that you'd rather be in Communist China, lol...That's horrible.

[jade_slayer6]

we should strike first at full force so no soilder deploement is needed.... becuase we need our full focus put on iraq.

[Bubsa]

we should strike first at full force so no soilder deploement is needed.... becuase we need our full focus put on iraq.

 

You sound a bigger idiot than that President of yours.

 

Seriously, what the hell. What the smegging hell compelled you to say that?

[sebbeberg]

we should strike first at full force so no soilder deploement is needed.... becuase we need our full focus put on iraq.

 

You sound a bigger idiot than that President of yours.

 

Seriously, what the hell. What the smegging hell compelled you to say that?

 

I agree, who the [bleep] would be so stupid to do that?

 

If they did it, welcome WWIII! :notalk:

[jade_slayer6]

the fact thatany troop deloyment in north korea would cause the iraq retreat plan to go down the drain.anyways hes just lonely in his hell-hole of a country over there ( north korea).I bet there are great people there but there leader sucks. :-w

[Ragen]

I though that both NK and Iran are out of line with their Nuclear Programmes. But it wasn't until I read this thread that I realised how far N. Korea had gone. Considering that their leader seems to be a total head-case, I think the best solution is to assasinate him and hope that some-one more mentally stable and economically minded steps into his role.

 

I would suggest the same for Iran but I think that would kick up a huge religious fuss and work up the tension in the Middle East even more. With Nukes he would be dangerous too, what with his hatred of Israel (That is the situation right?).